[ThisGuy2]

Alright I admit, Band-Aid has kicked in neither a dollar, nor a two-inch strip of adhesive nylon to the cause...but I thought it'd make for a good title. Anyway, it's time to start revving up for my new cycle, which begins on Monday. I'm freakin' PSYCHED!!! This is going to be one killer cut.

I've rounded up all my products, ancillaries and PCT supplies (except for 6-oxo, which I'll purchase in due time). Ancillaries will actually only include BP support and fish oil while on cycle, and milk thistle during pct (since none of the products I'm taking are methylated).

Which brings me to the products! A couple of you probably have my lineup memorized from all the questions I've bombarded you with during the planning stages (Thunder, bigT, I'm looking at you guys), but here is the final layout:

Weeks 1 - 4
Furazadrol: 250mg / 200mg / 200mg / 150mg
11-oxo: 300mg
11-Test: 200mg (generic 11-oxo)
MMV2: 3 - 6 p/d preworkout on workout days only

*I'll also be using Napalm after every shower (which is twice on training days, 1 on other days), and Venom HD starting at 1 p/d.

Dosing will be split into twice daily, evenly split (except on odd-numbered furazadrol doses) 1 AM, 1 PM but not night-time, as I've been advised against it with both compounds. And obviously, the dosing on the MMV2 is self-explanatory.

Weeks 5 - 8 (PCT)
Nolvadex: 40 / 40 / 20 / 20
Clomid: 50 / 50 / 25 / 25 (I actually ordered too few, so I'm ending up taking this at a lower dose, but I'm not too worried about it).
6-oxo: 100/200/300/400 (beginning weeks 3 of pct)

*I'll begin taking some Trib Test Xtreme I have left over on the last two weeks of the cycle, to lead in to Diesel Test Hardcore, which will begin day 25 (or the 3rd from end of cycle) @ 3 pd, and continuing at 4 p/d throughout the remainder of PCT. I'm also kicking around the idea of low-dose DHEA, but am not sure. Would love to hear some input. It may just be overkill.

I'll be working on a 4 day split (chest and back, shoulders, arms, legs). My homies on here already know I like to keep my workouts interesting. I'll continue mixing it up with drop sets, supers, rest-pause, static, partials, negatives, tri-sets, and so on. Cardio will consist of 3 HIIT days a week and 2 low intensity workouts of 45 min. to an hour. Abs 3 times weekly (on HIIT days, following cardio workout).

Diet will be reduced calorie, increased protein, and other than leafy greens, carrots, celery and suchy, carbs will be all but elliminated, being relegated to only 1 carb meal daily, and keeping it to slow-digesting complex carbs never to exceed 50g.

Here's a sample day:

Breakfast
-5 egg whites w/ onion and peppers

Mid-morning snack
-carrot sticks and celery
-1 cup fat-free cottage cheese

Lunch
Salad w/ grilled chicken breast or tuna salad (fat-free Smart Balance, of course)
60 cal Sugar free Jell-O Pudding snack (before you dip your spoon in-to the puddin'...!)

Mid-afternoons/pre-workout snack
Protien shake (blended 1 scoop ON Whey, 1 scoop ON Casein...I know you love that sh!t Timber!)

Post-workout
Protein shake (1 scoop ON Whey)

Dinner
Grilled chicken breast w/ whole wheat cousous
60 cal Sugar free Jell-O Pudding snack

Bedtime
Protein shake (1 scoop ON Casein)

If dinner is going to be vegetables and not a whole grain/wheat side, than I'll either consume my carbs w/ either lunch in the form of brown rice, wheat pasta, bread or couscous or sweet potato, or oatmeal w/ breakfast. This ought to give you guys a general idea.

I have a measuring tape, so I'll be posting measurements. Better still, I just got myself some calipers, so I'll be able to give body fat% as well.

Now, all that said.......LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!!!

[ThisGuy2]

By the way, here's what I plan to look like when the MMV2 hits me walking in the gym:

[slow-mun]

Sub'd due to interest.

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by slow-mun

Sub'd due to interest.

Glad to have you here, man! Should be a nice ride.

[DrakeC]

Looks interesting.

Whats your height and weight now and how much are you trying to lose?

On 50 carbs a day i'd be ravenous. Good idea adding the Venom, that should help with the appetite. Have you dieted low carb like this before?

Good luck man, im subbed.

[GMG760]

Subbed bro.

I really dug MMV2. Made me ANGRY!!! ...in a good way.
Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

I mean, better safe than sorry, but jeez dude, that is a bigger PCT than what I am gonna take for my upcomming Epi run.

I ran MMV2 and M1D w/out a serm. I just used 6-bromo and milk thistle/hawthorne berry for PCT. Worked fine, zero sides.

But then again if ThunderGod gave you the advice, I would listen.

[GMG760]

Good luck with the 50 gm carb a day... I would lose my f*cking mind, I don't think I have ever gone below 150gm. But that's just me.

[TimberLakers]

I was surpised to see Clomid and Nolva too...

But can't wait man. Subbbbed.

[jamze7417]

Originally Posted by GMG760

Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

Agreed. I dont really see anything harsh enough that you would really need a serm for, let alone two. If anything the 6oxo would be fine... Im just curious, whats your reasoning for having the 6 oxo plus the 2 serms ? Im not trying to bash, im just trying to understand your thinking.

I dont know... Maybe im missing something.

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by DrakeC

Looks interesting.

Whats your height and weight now and how much are you trying to lose?

On 50 carbs a day i'd be ravenous. Good idea adding the Venom, that should help with the appetite. Have you dieted low carb like this before?

Good luck man, im subbed.

Aha! 5'11" hovering just under 200lb (weighed in at 198 last night). I tend to fluctuate between 196 and 205. I don't really have a goal in terms of weight loss, because I expect to put on some muscle, if only a few pounds. I tend to put on muscle pretty quickly, so it would just be strange if I didn't. Even on a straight zol run a few years back I put on like 4.

As far as %, I don't really have a goal either, because I'm not sure what a realistic expectation for these compounds is, though I'd love to hear some, if anybody cares to chime in with that. Generally speaking, I just know it when I look in the mirror and see it. Though this time, I'll actually have numbers to compare!

As for low carb, I usually have very low carb intake. I'm just finishing up a 4 week log of AP, where I started to consume a pretty good amount for me. I'm hoping it'll help make the effects of the cut in carbs that much more pronounced.

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by GMG760

Subbed bro.

I really dug MMV2. Made me ANGRY!!! ...in a good way.
Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

I mean, better safe than sorry, but jeez dude, that is a bigger PCT than what I am gonna take for my upcomming Epi run.

I ran MMV2 and M1D w/out a serm. I just used 6-bromo and milk thistle/hawthorne berry for PCT. Worked fine, zero sides.

But then again if ThunderGod gave you the advice, I would listen.

Actually, this was a PCT that Dr.D recommended a year or two ago, if I remember correctly. TG did point out that I was going about the 6-oxo all wrong, so I've adjusted that per his advice. Generally speaking, I wouldn't have done such a thorough pct for this one, though I swear by the nolva/clomid combo usually, but I was really shut down for a month and a half or so after my last run of epi a couple months back, so I want to do things right.

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by jamze7417

Agreed. I dont really see anything harsh enough that you would really need a serm for, let alone two. If anything the 6oxo would be fine... Im just curious, whats your reasoning for having the 6 oxo plus the 2 serms ? Im not trying to bash, im just trying to understand your thinking.

I dont know... Maybe im missing something.

6-oxo is an AI, the inclusion of which does not negate the need for a SERM. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but the thinking that milder phs do not require a SERM is something that absolutely do not agree with.

Nolva/clomid is a pretty standard combination, by the way. I didn't just make it up, lots of people use it, though, granted, they might usually be reserved for more agressive stacks. Maybe I could get by on just the nolva, since these compounds are on the milder side, but make no mistake, a SERM IS needed. Moreover, I'm dosing these compounds very high (500mg for the 11oxo and 250 or 200 for the majority of the Furaz...plus I'll be getting up as high as 6 MMV2 on workout days, most likely in no time). Like I said, I was shut down from my last cycle of epi solo, and I want to make sure I rebound quickly and completely this time around.

I'll be running thistle for my liver, and with such a low dose of the clomid, if I already have it on hand, I see no reason no to include.

[jamze7417]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy2

6-oxo is an AI, the inclusion of which does not negate the need for a SERM. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but the thinking that milder phs do not require a SERM is something that absolutely do not agree with.

Nolva/clomid is a pretty standard combination, by the way. I didn't just make it up, lots of people use it, though, granted, they might usually be reserved for more agressive stacks. Maybe I could get by on just the nolva, since these compounds are on the milder side, but make no mistake, a SERM IS needed. Moreover, I'm dosing these compounds very high (500mg for the 11oxo and 250 or 200 for the majority of the Furaz...plus I'll be getting up as high as 6 MMV2 on workout days, most likely in no time). Like I said, I was shut down from my last cycle of epi solo, and I want to make sure I rebound quickly and completely this time around.

I'll be running thistle for my liver, and with such a low dose of the clomid, if I already have it on hand, I see no reason no to include.

Ok...I also agree that even with the milder of these compounds its a good idea to run a serm. I ran nolva on my epi cycle which went great. I understand where your coming from. I just think that 2 Might be unneccesary. I think nolva 40/40/20/20 would definetly be fine. If it were me, i would run that and play the clomid by ear. If you feel it neccesary at when the time comes, use it otherwise youd probably be set with just the nolva. Plus then you have your clomid for another run. Other than that, this cycle looks real fun. Ive been wanting to run 11 oxo for a recomp, but i think im going with a halo run instead. Goodluck bro.

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by jamze7417

Ok...I also agree that even with the milder of these compounds its a good idea to run a serm. I ran nolva on my epi cycle which went great. I understand where your coming from. I just think that 2 Might be unneccesary. I think nolva 40/40/20/20 would definetly be fine. If it were me, i would run that and play the clomid by ear. If you feel it neccesary at when the time comes, use it otherwise youd probably be set with just the nolva. Plus then you have your clomid for another run. Other than that, this cycle looks real fun. Ive been wanting to run 11 oxo for a recomp, but i think im going with a halo run instead. Goodluck bro.

Thanks dude! I might just do that.

Halo huh? I've recently started to think about having another go of that one...it's been a while now. How high you planning on running it?