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    My Sick Summer Cut (Sponsored in part by Band-Aid)


    Alright I admit, Band-Aid has kicked in neither a dollar, nor a two-inch strip of adhesive nylon to the cause...but I thought it'd make for a good title. Anyway, it's time to start revving up for my new cycle, which begins on Monday. I'm freakin' PSYCHED!!! This is going to be one killer cut.

    I've rounded up all my products, ancillaries and PCT supplies (except for 6-oxo, which I'll purchase in due time). Ancillaries will actually only include BP support and fish oil while on cycle, and milk thistle during pct (since none of the products I'm taking are methylated).

    Which brings me to the products! A couple of you probably have my lineup memorized from all the questions I've bombarded you with during the planning stages (Thunder, bigT, I'm looking at you guys), but here is the final layout:

    Weeks 1 - 4
    Furazadrol: 250mg / 200mg / 200mg / 150mg
    11-oxo: 300mg
    11-Test: 200mg (generic 11-oxo)
    MMV2: 3 - 6 p/d preworkout on workout days only

    *I'll also be using Napalm after every shower (which is twice on training days, 1 on other days), and Venom HD starting at 1 p/d.

    Dosing will be split into twice daily, evenly split (except on odd-numbered furazadrol doses) 1 AM, 1 PM but not night-time, as I've been advised against it with both compounds. And obviously, the dosing on the MMV2 is self-explanatory.

    Weeks 5 - 8 (PCT)
    Nolvadex: 40 / 40 / 20 / 20
    Clomid: 50 / 50 / 25 / 25 (I actually ordered too few, so I'm ending up taking this at a lower dose, but I'm not too worried about it).
    6-oxo: 100/200/300/400 (beginning weeks 3 of pct)

    *I'll begin taking some Trib Test Xtreme I have left over on the last two weeks of the cycle, to lead in to Diesel Test Hardcore, which will begin day 25 (or the 3rd from end of cycle) @ 3 pd, and continuing at 4 p/d throughout the remainder of PCT. I'm also kicking around the idea of low-dose DHEA, but am not sure. Would love to hear some input. It may just be overkill.

    I'll be working on a 4 day split (chest and back, shoulders, arms, legs). My homies on here already know I like to keep my workouts interesting. I'll continue mixing it up with drop sets, supers, rest-pause, static, partials, negatives, tri-sets, and so on. Cardio will consist of 3 HIIT days a week and 2 low intensity workouts of 45 min. to an hour. Abs 3 times weekly (on HIIT days, following cardio workout).

    Diet will be reduced calorie, increased protein, and other than leafy greens, carrots, celery and suchy, carbs will be all but elliminated, being relegated to only 1 carb meal daily, and keeping it to slow-digesting complex carbs never to exceed 50g.

    Here's a sample day:

    Breakfast
    -5 egg whites w/ onion and peppers

    Mid-morning snack
    -carrot sticks and celery
    -1 cup fat-free cottage cheese

    Lunch
    Salad w/ grilled chicken breast or tuna salad (fat-free Smart Balance, of course)
    60 cal Sugar free Jell-O Pudding snack (before you dip your spoon in-to the puddin'...!)

    Mid-afternoons/pre-workout snack
    Protien shake (blended 1 scoop ON Whey, 1 scoop ON Casein...I know you love that sh!t Timber!)

    Post-workout
    Protein shake (1 scoop ON Whey)

    Dinner
    Grilled chicken breast w/ whole wheat cousous
    60 cal Sugar free Jell-O Pudding snack

    Bedtime
    Protein shake (1 scoop ON Casein)

    If dinner is going to be vegetables and not a whole grain/wheat side, than I'll either consume my carbs w/ either lunch in the form of brown rice, wheat pasta, bread or couscous or sweet potato, or oatmeal w/ breakfast. This ought to give you guys a general idea.

    I have a measuring tape, so I'll be posting measurements. Better still, I just got myself some calipers, so I'll be able to give body fat% as well.

    Now, all that said.......LET'S GET THIS PARTY STARTED!!!!!

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    By the way, here's what I plan to look like when the MMV2 hits me walking in the gym:

    [nomedia="http://youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    Sub'd due to interest.
    Glad to have you here, man! Should be a nice ride.
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    Looks interesting.

    Whats your height and weight now and how much are you trying to lose?

    On 50 carbs a day i'd be ravenous. Good idea adding the Venom, that should help with the appetite. Have you dieted low carb like this before?

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    Subbed bro.

    I really dug MMV2. Made me ANGRY!!! ...in a good way.
    Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

    I mean, better safe than sorry, but jeez dude, that is a bigger PCT than what I am gonna take for my upcomming Epi run.

    I ran MMV2 and M1D w/out a serm. I just used 6-bromo and milk thistle/hawthorne berry for PCT. Worked fine, zero sides.

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    Good luck with the 50 gm carb a day... I would lose my f*cking mind, I don't think I have ever gone below 150gm. But that's just me.
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    I was surpised to see Clomid and Nolva too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?
    Agreed. I dont really see anything harsh enough that you would really need a serm for, let alone two. If anything the 6oxo would be fine... Im just curious, whats your reasoning for having the 6 oxo plus the 2 serms ? Im not trying to bash, im just trying to understand your thinking.

    I dont know... Maybe im missing something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeC View Post
    Looks interesting.

    Whats your height and weight now and how much are you trying to lose?

    On 50 carbs a day i'd be ravenous. Good idea adding the Venom, that should help with the appetite. Have you dieted low carb like this before?

    Good luck man, im subbed.
    Aha! 5'11" hovering just under 200lb (weighed in at 198 last night). I tend to fluctuate between 196 and 205. I don't really have a goal in terms of weight loss, because I expect to put on some muscle, if only a few pounds. I tend to put on muscle pretty quickly, so it would just be strange if I didn't. Even on a straight zol run a few years back I put on like 4.

    As far as %, I don't really have a goal either, because I'm not sure what a realistic expectation for these compounds is, though I'd love to hear some, if anybody cares to chime in with that. Generally speaking, I just know it when I look in the mirror and see it. Though this time, I'll actually have numbers to compare!

    As for low carb, I usually have very low carb intake. I'm just finishing up a 4 week log of AP, where I started to consume a pretty good amount for me. I'm hoping it'll help make the effects of the cut in carbs that much more pronounced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Subbed bro.

    I really dug MMV2. Made me ANGRY!!! ...in a good way.
    Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

    I mean, better safe than sorry, but jeez dude, that is a bigger PCT than what I am gonna take for my upcomming Epi run.

    I ran MMV2 and M1D w/out a serm. I just used 6-bromo and milk thistle/hawthorne berry for PCT. Worked fine, zero sides.

    But then again if ThunderGod gave you the advice, I would listen.
    Actually, this was a PCT that Dr.D recommended a year or two ago, if I remember correctly. TG did point out that I was going about the 6-oxo all wrong, so I've adjusted that per his advice. Generally speaking, I wouldn't have done such a thorough pct for this one, though I swear by the nolva/clomid combo usually, but I was really shut down for a month and a half or so after my last run of epi a couple months back, so I want to do things right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Agreed. I dont really see anything harsh enough that you would really need a serm for, let alone two. If anything the 6oxo would be fine... Im just curious, whats your reasoning for having the 6 oxo plus the 2 serms ? Im not trying to bash, im just trying to understand your thinking.

    I dont know... Maybe im missing something.
    6-oxo is an AI, the inclusion of which does not negate the need for a SERM. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but the thinking that milder phs do not require a SERM is something that absolutely do not agree with.

    Nolva/clomid is a pretty standard combination, by the way. I didn't just make it up, lots of people use it, though, granted, they might usually be reserved for more agressive stacks. Maybe I could get by on just the nolva, since these compounds are on the milder side, but make no mistake, a SERM IS needed. Moreover, I'm dosing these compounds very high (500mg for the 11oxo and 250 or 200 for the majority of the Furaz...plus I'll be getting up as high as 6 MMV2 on workout days, most likely in no time). Like I said, I was shut down from my last cycle of epi solo, and I want to make sure I rebound quickly and completely this time around.

    I'll be running thistle for my liver, and with such a low dose of the clomid, if I already have it on hand, I see no reason no to include.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    6-oxo is an AI, the inclusion of which does not negate the need for a SERM. I don't want to get on my soapbox here, but the thinking that milder phs do not require a SERM is something that absolutely do not agree with.

    Nolva/clomid is a pretty standard combination, by the way. I didn't just make it up, lots of people use it, though, granted, they might usually be reserved for more agressive stacks. Maybe I could get by on just the nolva, since these compounds are on the milder side, but make no mistake, a SERM IS needed. Moreover, I'm dosing these compounds very high (500mg for the 11oxo and 250 or 200 for the majority of the Furaz...plus I'll be getting up as high as 6 MMV2 on workout days, most likely in no time). Like I said, I was shut down from my last cycle of epi solo, and I want to make sure I rebound quickly and completely this time around.

    I'll be running thistle for my liver, and with such a low dose of the clomid, if I already have it on hand, I see no reason no to include.
    Ok...I also agree that even with the milder of these compounds its a good idea to run a serm. I ran nolva on my epi cycle which went great. I understand where your coming from. I just think that 2 Might be unneccesary. I think nolva 40/40/20/20 would definetly be fine. If it were me, i would run that and play the clomid by ear. If you feel it neccesary at when the time comes, use it otherwise youd probably be set with just the nolva. Plus then you have your clomid for another run. Other than that, this cycle looks real fun. Ive been wanting to run 11 oxo for a recomp, but i think im going with a halo run instead. Goodluck bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Ok...I also agree that even with the milder of these compounds its a good idea to run a serm. I ran nolva on my epi cycle which went great. I understand where your coming from. I just think that 2 Might be unneccesary. I think nolva 40/40/20/20 would definetly be fine. If it were me, i would run that and play the clomid by ear. If you feel it neccesary at when the time comes, use it otherwise youd probably be set with just the nolva. Plus then you have your clomid for another run. Other than that, this cycle looks real fun. Ive been wanting to run 11 oxo for a recomp, but i think im going with a halo run instead. Goodluck bro.
    Thanks dude! I might just do that.

    Halo huh? I've recently started to think about having another go of that one...it's been a while now. How high you planning on running it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Ok...I also agree that even with the milder of these compounds its a good idea to run a serm. I ran nolva on my epi cycle which went great. I understand where your coming from. I just think that 2 Might be unneccesary. I think nolva 40/40/20/20 would definetly be fine. If it were me, i would run that and play the clomid by ear. If you feel it neccesary at when the time comes, use it otherwise youd probably be set with just the nolva. Plus then you have your clomid for another run. Other than that, this cycle looks real fun. Ive been wanting to run 11 oxo for a recomp, but i think im going with a halo run instead. Goodluck bro.

    Just throwing this out there... but I heard that Clomid makes you blow huge loads - and Nolva - not so much.

    Just tell them you have a face painting contest in a couple weeks, and you have my full support on your PCT.

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    Im not 100% yet, im still working on the plan, Im cutting right now and i want to use it to keep some strength and muscle, recomp. I was thinking 4-5 weeks, maybe like 50/50/75/75/75... Something like that Possibly up to 100mg for the last couple weeks but that might be a little high. Any recomendations? Its still probably a month out. I had a real good run of epi a couple months back . i ran it decently high at 10-20/30/40/40 That went really well. For my pct im probably going to do the same as what i did for my epi cycle, i kept gaining strength and wieght. For that i ran Nolva 40/40/20/10, Powerfull, Post Cycle Support, and retain2. Loved it. Do you think those dosages are decent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Just throwing this out there... but I heard that Clomid makes you blow huge loads - and Nolva - not so much.

    Just tell them you have a face painting contest in a couple weeks, and you have my full support on your PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Im not 100% yet, im still working on the plan, Im cutting right now and i want to use it to keep some strength and muscle, recomp. I was thinking 4-5 weeks, maybe like 50/50/75/75/75... Something like that. Any recomendations? Its still probably a month out. I had a real good run of epi a couple months back 10-20/30/40/40 That went really well. For my pct im probably going to do the same as what i did for my epi cycle, i kept gaining strength and wieght. For that i ran Nolva 40/40/20/10, Powerfull, Post Cycle Support, and retain2. Loved it. Do you think those dosages are decent?
    I read somewhere that halo converts at 16% and that to truly get near Tbol effects, you need in the 150mg to 200mg range. I don't know personally, but I've been thinking about researching that, and possibly using it as the dry component to a 3ad bulker, but who knows. TG's logs have got me all psyched about running a 3 week burst or two, and I'll probably go that route (maybe like a little 3ad, some other bulking goodie, and either 11-oxo or furaz to keep me dry, depending on results I see here).

    Halo would definitely put strain on your liver at such a hugh dosage, I think, but the argument was that it's underdosed. I had decent results from 50mg, but I was keeping a conservative dosing. You going a full 5 weeks and going at 75 the last 3, should have much better results. Halo also takes a while to take effect, so 5 weeks is usually considered the magic number.

    Have you worked out the number of caps vs. bottles you have/plan to get? Maybe you could bump up that last week to 100mg, so you go 50/50/75/75/100. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Im not 100% yet, im still working on the plan, Im cutting right now and i want to use it to keep some strength and muscle, recomp. I was thinking 4-5 weeks, maybe like 50/50/75/75/75... Something like that Possibly up to 100mg for the last couple weeks but that might be a little high. Any recomendations? Its still probably a month out. I had a real good run of epi a couple months back . i ran it decently high at 10-20/30/40/40 That went really well. For my pct im probably going to do the same as what i did for my epi cycle, i kept gaining strength and wieght. For that i ran Nolva 40/40/20/10, Powerfull, Post Cycle Support, and retain2. Loved it. Do you think those dosages are decent?
    I'm running 6 weeks at 50/50/75/75/75/100... uses 2 full bottles.
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    Yah i actually already have 2 bottles of Hdrol (120 Caps total) So i could run it 50/75/75/100/100. Ive gotta do a bit of research on that, im going to be eating at or a little below maintance, cuz ill be trying to drop a little wieght druing this cycle, so i will have to see how i react to that. With epi i was eating a **** ton!

    Ive atually been meaning to ask this... Would it be ok to eat at or below maintnace while on this cycle or is that a Bad idea...???

    I also have 2 m drol, 2 p plex, a bottle of havoc and a bottle of epistane for later, some nice goodies for future cycles. hehe

    Yeah for my Cycle ill either be runnin Cycle support or i may make my own for less $. Well see
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    I'm running 6 weeks at 50/50/75/75/75/100... uses 2 full bottles.
    That's money, brother.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Yah i actually already have 2 bottles of Hdrol (120 Caps total) So i could run it 50/75/75/100/100. Ive gotta do a bit of research on that, im going to be eating at or a little below maintance, cuz ill be trying to drop a little wieght druing this cycle, so i will have to see how i react to that. With epi i was eating a **** ton!

    Ive atually been meaning to ask this... Would it be ok to eat at or below maintnace while on this cycle or is that a Bad idea...???

    I also have 2 m drol, 2 p plex, a bottle of havoc and a bottle of epistane for later, some nice goodies for future cycles. hehe

    Yeah for my Cycle ill either be runnin Cycle support or i may make my own for less $. Well see
    That's not a bad dosing scheme at all!

    As for running it on cut cals, that's fine, you just need to see where your cals are spent. Keep those proteins high and you should have great success at that recomp.
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    Sweet yea i usually keep em even cutting around 300-375g's of protein a day . I looking forward to this one. When are you starting? Thanks for the advice
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    I'm in this mothafcuka!!!!! Get yo shred on!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSheep View Post
    I'm in this mothafcuka!!!!! Get yo shred on!!!
    Hell yeah!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Sweet yea i usually keep em even cutting around 300-375g's of protein a day . I looking forward to this one. When are you starting? Thanks for the advice
    Nice intake! What's your weight?

    I start on Monday. I'm just sittin' here, looking at my stash, feeling like a fat kid across the table from a peice of cake. I'm trying not to spoil my dinner, but damn it's tough!!!
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    subbed. im not too knowledgable on cutting so u might not hear sh1t from me! lol. good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamze7417 View Post
    Yah i actually already have 2 bottles of Hdrol (120 Caps total) So i could run it 50/75/75/100/100. Ive gotta do a bit of research on that, im going to be eating at or a little below maintance, cuz ill be trying to drop a little wieght druing this cycle, so i will have to see how i react to that. With epi i was eating a **** ton!

    Ive atually been meaning to ask this... Would it be ok to eat at or below maintnace while on this cycle or is that a Bad idea...???

    I also have 2 m drol, 2 p plex, a bottle of havoc and a bottle of epistane for later, some nice goodies for future cycles. hehe

    Yeah for my Cycle ill either be runnin Cycle support or i may make my own for less $. Well see
    Your stash is almost identical to mine... Execpt I have one less Mdrol and one more epistane and two more Hdrol!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pistonpump View Post
    subbed. im not too knowledgable on cutting so u might not hear sh1t from me! lol. good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Your stash is almost identical to mine... Execpt I have one less Mdrol and one more epistane and two more Hdrol!!!
    I'm jealous. I have a pretty nice stash going...


    not that one...but, as I was saying, I'm about to take it all down!
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    Nice stash bro!!!
    I used to be a cutting fcukin foo, so hit me up if you gotz da questionz.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Your stash is almost identical to mine... Execpt I have one less Mdrol and one more epistane and two more Hdrol!!!
    I'm pretty sure Garrett also has like 8 boxes of heavy flow tampons... if you guys are into that sort of thing..

    cause you know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    I'm pretty sure Garrett also has like 8 boxes of heavy flow tampons... if you guys are into that sort of thing..

    cause you know...
    Naw dude I'm all out, you bought the entire stock with your last order.

    I made a fortune off you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    I'm jealous. I have a pretty nice stash going...


    not that one...but, as I was saying, I'm about to take it all down!
    hehehe. that's quite a stash. I think he has been feeding his mustache m-drol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Why on earth are you taking 2 SERMS for your PCT though? Don't you think that is pretty overkill for non-methylated compounds?

    I mean, better safe than sorry, but jeez dude, that is a bigger PCT than what I am gonna take for my upcomming Epi run.

    I ran MMV2 and M1D w/out a serm. I just used 6-bromo and milk thistle/hawthorne berry for PCT. Worked fine, zero sides.

    But then again if ThunderGod gave you the advice, I would listen.
    Thundergod didn't give him the advice on PCT. I would NOT have had him run either Nolva nor Clomid for such a mild run. That must've been someone else's recommendation. I think the 6-OXO would be plenty for such a mild run. But I would suggest tapering it down, NOT up! I would do 200/400/300/100 to taper off and prevent estro-rebound. This would be my suggestion ThisGuy2!! But it's your PCT to do whatever you wish. I just think those SERM"s are unecessary for this cycle. Save them for something methylated and harsher!! But EVERYTHING else looks great. Rock this one TG2!! THE THUNDERGOD
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Thundergod didn't give him the advice on PCT. I would NOT have had him run either Nolva nor Clomid for such a mild run. That must've been someone else's recommendation. I think the 6-OXO would be plenty for such a mild run. But I would suggest tapering it down, NOT up! I would do 200/400/300/100 to taper off and prevent estro-rebound. This would be my suggestion ThisGuy2!! But it's your PCT to do whatever you wish. I just think those SERM"s are unecessary for this cycle. Save them for something methylated and harsher!! But EVERYTHING else looks great. Rock this one TG2!! THE THUNDERGOD


    Sorry TG! I must have misread/understood what The Guy wrote. If my spider sense doesn't fail me I bet the advice you gave was regarding MMV2, I know we were running it a few months ago at the same time. I got some great info by reading your log, it definitely helped my cycle's success and my overall knowledge!

    BTW, I love the whole talking in the 3rd person thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSheep View Post
    Nice stash bro!!!
    I used to be a cutting fcukin foo, so hit me up if you gotz da questionz.......
    Thanks bro!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post


    Sorry TG! I must have misread/understood what The Guy wrote. If my spider sense doesn't fail me I bet the advice you gave was regarding MMV2, I know we were running it a few months ago at the same time. I got some great info by reading your log, it definitely helped my cycle's success and my overall knowledge!

    BTW, I love the whole talking in the 3rd person thing.
    You are CORRECT, sir!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Thundergod didn't give him the advice on PCT. I would NOT have had him run either Nolva nor Clomid for such a mild run. That must've been someone else's recommendation. I think the 6-OXO would be plenty for such a mild run. But I would suggest tapering it down, NOT up! I would do 200/400/300/100 to taper off and prevent estro-rebound. This would be my suggestion ThisGuy2!! But it's your PCT to do whatever you wish. I just think those SERM"s are unecessary for this cycle. Save them for something methylated and harsher!! But EVERYTHING else looks great. Rock this one TG2!! THE THUNDERGOD
    Actually, now that I think of it, wasn't the plan we discussed to dose the 6-oxo 100/200/300/200/100 (ramping up and then back down starting week 3 of PCT)?
  

  
 

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