[thundergod]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy2

Yeah, I hear you. I've always had great experiences with all the AX products, but $60 is a hell of an expensive flier to take!

about this pplex cycle in the winter...I'm down! Let's do it!!! How do you feel about a loaded up 3 weeker, Thundergod style? I'd probably stack it with 300mg winztrol or at least 225mg 11oxo to keep the bloat down....and I don't know, maybe 20mg epi....oh yeah, and more MMV2, you know, just since I'm going to have leftovers! We can discuss more later.

Though I was also considering a dbol/tbol/winny cycle, but that could be my late-winter cycle. I could actually line them up for bursts the way you're doing it now, couldn't I TG?

Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! THE THUNDERGOD

[GMG760]

Originally Posted by TimberLakers

Let me in on this!

LOL. "I think I am only gonna be doing one cycle. Ever."
- Timberlakers like 4 days ago.

Now you want to run some P-Plex? That's my dawg!

I thought you wanted to stay a pretty boy?
Hehehehe.

[GMG760]

Originally Posted by thundergod

Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! THE THUNDERGOD

Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee.



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!!

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.

[thundergod]

Originally Posted by GMG760

Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee.



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!!

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.

Thanks for considering my logs entertaining! I do my very best to keep everyone interested! I also started my designers experience using just 1 compound at a time to evaluate their effectiveness and Modus Operandi. I tried Halo-Drol for a cherry popper. Then I tried Phera. Loved it for strength! Then I moved up to a Super-Drol run. Still the strongest sh*t I've put into my body. I'm a Super-Junkie!! Now, I'm experimenting with my own original stacks!! I keep a journal recording their effectiveness. There's a few very much worth repeating!! Thank all you guys for letting me intrude into your group. You guys are a fukkin' riot!! Nothin' but love for you my new friends!! THE THUNDERGOD

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by thundergod

Even though I feel safe and comfortable dosing things the way I do, I can't whole-heartedly recommend it for others. I am only on the second cycle of my Burst-Cycling experimentation. So there's more data left to aquire before I can give an honest assessment of my studies! Before I could suggest dosing things like I do, there's lots of things to take into consideration. My 20+ years of natural lifting experience before experimenting with these Designers, my age, my size, the fact that I NEVER consume alcohol, the high dose liver-protectants that I take between cycles, etc..... But I really do like the sound of that Winztrol @300 mg., Epi and Phera @ 20 mg. each!! For a short 3 weeker, I think you would be safe. And your strength would fukkin' take off!! And now on to the dbol/tbol/winny combo, that sounds extremely interesting for a few short burst cycles. Maybe 3 of them back to back! Anytime you feel like it, PM me and we can work out some dosing schemes!! THE THUNDERGOD

You know I will, brother! Both of those combos sound VERY interesting to me!!

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by GMG760

Dbol, turnibol (isn't that what halodrol converts to?), and Winstrol... whoowee.



I think I want to run a test only cycle before I dive headfirst into that beeyatch.

But the P-Plex... 2 months after my Epi cycle... lets get sick with it!!! Maybe some MMV2 ontop of it too! We are gonna RAAAAAGE!!!

And yes TG, I know you are much more experienced than any of us chatting it up right now, I only look to your stacks for knowledge and a good log to go along for the ride! Slow and steady for this guy... I'm gonna be trying stuff one at a time until I get used to the compounds.

You are correct, sir! halo converts to tbol (at 16%, if I'm not mistaken).

Don't get me wrong though, this is not intended to be a pinning cycle. I'm talking oral (even the winny). Not that I have a fear of needles...just an aversion to the divorce that would likely ensue should my wife find syringes. Bottles of pills are no biggie. She's known I'm into supps since we first met. I keep spare emtpy bottles aroudn for just that purpose (clomid goes here, nolva goes there, and so on).

[ThisGuy2]

Well gents, I had a nice long weekend, laying low, taking it slow, and catchin' some rays. Now, let's kick some ass, take some names, and see if I can't get a bit more cut up.

I woke up this morning and I got myself a beer...no, that's not true. That's just a song I heard over the weekend.

I woke up this morning and I got myself:
Furazadrol 100mg
11oxo 150mg
11test 100mg

And my PM dosing will be:
1pm
Venom HD

4pm
Furazadrol 150mg
11oxo 150mg
11test 100mg

I will continue dosing this way throughout week 1. Week 2 and 3 the only change will be dropping the PM fruaz dose to 100 (totaling 200mg daily), and then once more the final week (to total 150mg daily). Other than that, MMV2 will be taken 1 hour pre-workout on lifting days only. The plan is to dose 3 this week, 4 next, 5 the 3rd week and 6 the 4th, though I'll be playing it by ear.

Alright! Now training; I did 30 minutes HIIT this morning (which was rough after the long and relaxing weekend), but I fought through it. Tomorrow will be 1 hour low intensity, Wendesday HIIT, Thursday low, Friday HIIT). I wish I could lift today, but I can't. Oh well, chest & back tomorrow, shoulders Wednesday, arms Thursday and legs Friday. The week after I intend to split training days to Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat.

Here are my starting stats and measurments:
Height: 5'11"
Weight: 201lb
BF% (yes, I finally got it): 16.1%
Neck: 16.5"
Chest: 45.75"
Shoulders: 51.5"
Biceps (unflexed): 14.25"
Biceps (flexed): 16.5"
Forearm: 12.5"
Waist: 37"
Hip: 38.5"
Thigh: 22.25"
Calf: 15"

And I still have the pic from my last day on AP/RC (last week), which we'll be able to use to compare at the end of this thing.

[GMG760]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy2

You are correct, sir! halo converts to tbol (at 16%, if I'm not mistaken).

Don't get me wrong though, this is not intended to be a pinning cycle. I'm talking oral (even the winny). Not that I have a fear of needles...just an aversion to the divorce that would likely ensue should my wife find syringes. Bottles of pills are no biggie. She's known I'm into supps since we first met. I keep spare emtpy bottles aroudn for just that purpose (clomid goes here, nolva goes there, and so on).

Yea, if I ever do a inject cycle I think I am gonna have to be single while I do it. I have no problem telling people what I am taking, but yea, the needle thing is just associated with IV drug use.

[heebs10]

subbed!! a little late but just in time for the fun part! good luck man.

[SFRANGER]

I'm subbed!

I'm cutting right now too (41 days in)...I don't know how you are swingin' that low carb intake man! I've been staying between 100-150 a day and its been rough! Hard to stay focused some days. I'm interested to see how you handle 50!

[ThisGuy2]

Originally Posted by SFRANGER

I'm subbed!

I'm cutting right now too (41 days in)...I don't know how you are swingin' that low carb intake man! I've been staying between 100-150 a day and its been rough! Hard to stay focused some days. I'm interested to see how you handle 50!

So far so good. I generally consum pretty low carbs anyway, so it's not much of a stretch for me, though I did do a month of pretty moderate carbs on a run of AP going into this (w/ the precise intent of doing a sort of "carb loading"). Yesterday and day before I consumed only carbs from greens and carrots and all was good. This morning I treated myself to a whole grain English muffin, but that's pretty much it for the day, from what I'm looking at now. Salad and steamed veggies for the rest of the day.

[ThisGuy2]

Alright, so far, I've just finished my 3rd cardio session (HIIT Monday, long n' low Tuesday, HIIT today) and last night got my first workout in.

Some quick first impressions:
-Not sure whether it's the Furazadrol or the 11oxo/11test, but I'm draining water like a mofo. Whoever it was that recommended I drink at least a gallon a day of water wasn't kidding.
-Again, not sure which compound, but libido is riding pretty high. Winztrol tends to do that to me big time, so I'm leaning toward the furaz, but who knows...and who cares?
-Anyone taken Ejaculoid before (by Goliath Labs)? Had sex last night and when this happened it felt just like when I was on that. Anyone had that experience with any of these compounds? Maybe it was the MMV2 (took first dose yesterday)??
-Finally, first workout yesterday, and let me say I LOVE MMV2!!!! My aggression and focus in the weight room was incredible. When I finished doing chest and back, I damn near puked.

And on that note, here was my workout:

Flyes 3 x 8 @ 35lb
-SUPERSET w/
Bench (Smith) 3 x 8 @ 225lb
**I love this technique of pre-exhausting the muscle before you hit it with the compound movement. Goo sh!t!!!

Incline Bench 3 x 10 @ 185lb

Decline DB Bench 3 x 10 @ 60lb
-SUPERSET w/
Decline Flyes 3 x 10 @ 25lb

And after that my chest was taxed, so I moved on to back.

Lat. Pulldowns 3 x 12 @ 100lb
-SUPERSET w/
Straight-arm pushdowns 3 x 10 @ 40lb

1-Arm Rows 3 x 12 @ 40lb

Stiff-legged Deads 3 x 12 @ 40lb

And there's your horse, your honor. Tonight's shoulders...can't wait!

[heebs10]

ill bet its the mmv2 that put your libido in overdrive already, i hear its great for that. i must have missed something, but are you running winztrol in the cycle too or were you just mentioning winztrol as a comparison to the furaz?