Epistane cycle questions. First PH cycle
- 03-05-2008, 06:35 PM
Epistane cycle questions. First PH cycle
Beginning of Feb I had my jaw broken and it required some serious surgery in which I was forced to stay out of the gym. Long story short, I could use a boost to get some of my gains back.
My bottle of Epi just came in today.
upper teens in BF%
supps: creatine, fish oil, multi, mad protein
I was taking the AX triple stack before the injury and was about 3/4 through it (so I have 1/4 bottle of each left). I also have about 3/4 of a bottle of leviathon reloaded.
I guess my question is how should I safely run this? I'm torn between a pulse cycle and a full cycle, but am leaning towards a full. It is unlikely I will be able to attain a SERM, so if a run a full cycle, what should I have for PCT? Would a bottle of AI's PCT be sufficient? Maybe run the rest of the AX and then leviathon PCT as well? Should I add anything for during the cycle?
Funds are a little scarce but I could afford a bottle or 2 of something if necessary. I just want to make sure I do this right. Thanks for the help
- 03-05-2008, 08:18 PM
If you cant find a SERM your not looking. You'll need it in case of emergency, or in case you want to run a real PCT.
Forget AX, AI's products, leviathon, all recomended products. Look at the ingredients and creat your own stack. Do more research.
This is an open forum but it is also run, moderated by, and commented on my people who own companies. they want money, not for you to be healthy. Most people recomending 100+ dollars in pre-during-post supps either have something to gain, or money to burn.
- 03-11-2008, 12:07 AM
See the Epistane FAQ in my sig.
Crowler did a pulse and found that Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support worked wonders on his off days.
03-11-2008, 03:52 PM
03-13-2008, 03:03 AM
I went on a bit of a supp buying spree awhile back. I'm not looking to buy more than 1 bottle of anything. I'm just trying to find out how to make the best of what I have. Appreciate the honest opinions though guys.
Started a pulse cycle. Just finished 3rd workout (1@10mg, 1@20, 1@30). Nothing really worth noting so far.
Neo - read as much as I could find about it (logs, cycle suggestions, product info, etc). Again, just looking for opinions for use of what I already have.
If people are just going to tell me to research more, forget I asked. I have spent plenty of hours learning about it as I always want to know what kind of drug I'm getting into and how it's worked for other people. My main goal is to stay healthy! Chill guys. Don't scare me back into lurking.
03-13-2008, 06:44 AM
I hope your jaw is doing better. If you got stitches, etc. you may want to check with your doctor before you hit the gym 100%. Simple increases in blood pressure due to exercise can have a negative effect on your incision and its healing.
I hope you recover well and good luck with your cycle.
03-13-2008, 08:10 AM
I wished I’d seen this thread sooner. Speaking from personal experience, when getting back into the gym after a forced layoff, you’re gonna make good gains initially just getting back to your norm. I would have suggested waiting until you get to a serious plateau before you went hormonal.
03-13-2008, 08:20 AM
03-13-2008, 09:59 PM
03-14-2008, 06:19 AM
03-14-2008, 08:13 AM
03-14-2008, 09:13 AM
LOL no I don't really feel it was directed at me but feel it was pretty much entirely useless as any kind of help to the OP. I understand as I said before that it's absolutely easier to just give an opinion without backing or help and to just spout off.
Are you here to help him?
You can gripe about my helping people with FAQ's all you want, as I'm sure all the people you respond to appreciate you immensly giving them no other alternative than "pff nice kitchen sink approach".
What would you recommend for the OP? Let's not dig any further but let's get into some meat n potatoes type conversation .....how about it?
hello?..........hello? are you there?
03-14-2008, 09:43 AM
03-14-2008, 09:44 AM
03-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Q: Neo:Well this is all very well and dandy but not very helpful really, if that is your intention. How about you just swap emails and provide him with your sources for easy wonderful SERM ordering? Done and done..
A: "If you ask for a source for:- steroids - ancillary meds - DNP - clen - T3 - illegal pro-hormones - research liquid products - or anything that is not legally sold you WILL be permanently banned" Board rules.
Q:Neo:So what you're saying is that any products by any company are not worthwhile or beneficiary but just a money grab? It has been seen multiple times that companies, because of buying in bulk, can put blend many different ingredients to create a new cost effective product.
A: The company is not the issue its company REPs, like YOU only recomending their products because it in their self interest. And no you havent named any products its just a general statement about how reps, RPN for example, says.... No i've never had a good experience with halo clones just do havoc its better...or something to that extent. Same with AI reps its like their the only company to ever make things that help in PCT.
Q:This is an open forum but it is also run, moderated by, and commented on my people who own companies. they want money, not for you to be healthy. Most people recomending 100+ dollars in pre-during-post supps either have something to gain, or money to burn. Neo:Proof / quotes or it didn't happen. Sorry but I'm not sure what other forum you are from (I could honestly take a wild guess how you became so cynical), but here we prefer to rely on facts and truths not just wild random spout offs. So with that said back this up....kthx
A: I realize its in a companys best interest to have reps on boards like these but my advise was to look at content vs. who is recomending it. An AI REP would never in his right mind recomend Target brand Milk Thistle and NAC from Whole Foods, catch my drift?
And i dont get the "other forum" i guess theres one you guys dont like?
Final thoughts: I like this place, ive never been apart of one of these boards before and it has a wealth of information on it that no one person could ever have found on their own.
12-17-2011, 07:37 PM
i don't believe in PH, i would use real gear to know what side effects im dealing with and to garantee the result, i used epist before it's not so great.
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