[EasyEJL]

its not so much about sides difference, its more about how much it suppresses your natural testosterone. might not make that huge a difference really, not exactly clinical studies done on it

[CuChulainn]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

its not so much about sides difference, its more about how much it suppresses your natural testosterone. might not make that huge a difference really, not exactly clinical studies done on it

what is the theory behind the idea that having an anabolic affecting you while you are sleeping will decrease your natural test? it would seem to me that it woudl be the best time to have it affecting you, as your body is in repair mode anyhow, why not have a substance that dramatically increases the rate of repair/growth?

[EasyEJL]

the idea is that your body sees that substance as a replacement for test. It sees that you have enough androgens in bloodstream as it "mistakes" the superdrol for test, and so doesn't think it needs to make as much. thats how suppression works. just that since most of your bodys own testosterone is created at night, thats when you want your body to feel free to use its own. If it doesn't create it then, it wont be around in the morning either.

[CuChulainn]

209.2

thinking of kicking it up to 20/10 next week (week 3), what ya think?

[EasyEJL]

sure why not

[Schism]

Originally Posted by CuChulainn

209.2

thinking of kicking it up to 20/10 next week (week 3), what ya think?

Up 6lbs in 2 weeks nice!! You've gained a lb a dose lol.. Keep it up brother, you still gonna stop at 4 weeks?

[CuChulainn]

yeah probably, i really want to avoid/minimize shutdown. plus i have mostly heard that gains from sdrol stop at week 3-4, and 5-6 are mostly just break even periods, I would rather get to "pct" so i can start up my hdrol cutting cycle sooner (i am not liking being chubbs = P )

still contemplating a stack of pulsing superdrol 20mg 3x week with ED dosing of Hdrol.

btw, had a crap workout today... back started hurting during clean and presses. it was a non-sharp low-lower back pain, maybe back pumps? dont know

[hman85]

Originally Posted by CuChulainn

yeah probably, i really want to avoid/minimize shutdown. plus i have mostly heard that gains from sdrol stop at week 3-4, and 5-6 are mostly just break even periods, I would rather get to "post cycle therapy" so i can start up my hdrol cutting cycle sooner (i am not liking being chubbs = P )

still contemplating a stack of pulsing superdrol 20mg 3x week with ED dosing of Hdrol.

btw, had a crap workout today... back started hurting during clean and presses. it was a non-sharp low-lower back pain, maybe back pumps? dont know

I would be cautious about the hdrol and mdrol pulse could be a little toxic. have you done hdrol yet?

[CuChulainn]

Originally Posted by hman85

I would be cautious about the hdrol and mdrol pulse could be a little toxic. have you done hdrol yet?

negative, i was under the impression that it was the mildest of the PS's, was I misinformed?

[EasyEJL]

its the mildest, but to run halo at a dose where the straight cycle will produce worthwhile gains (75-100mg) and then adding normal pulse superdrol dosings on top (20-30mg) is a lot in terms of liver strain and other potential short term sides on your workout days.

I'm starting to really seriously consider oral turinabol as my next cycle.

[CuChulainn]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

its the mildest, but to run halo at a dose where the straight cycle will produce worthwhile gains (75-100mg) and then adding normal pulse superdrol dosings on top (20-30mg) is a lot in terms of liver strain and other potential short term sides on your workout days.

I'm starting to really seriously consider oral turinabol as my next cycle.

210.4 today

I think I may try 20/10 today, see how it affects me, and i will reconsider the stack. Do you have a good suggestion for a recomp/cut PS other than h-drol? or is that a pretty good choice?

edit: also considering taking part of my dose at noon, and the other part right before my workout... thoughts? i was thinking it may be better for avoiding suppression but worse for building mass (less post workout recovery time under the influence of the substance).

[Schism]

Furazdrol is a non methylated ph designed for cutting/stacking, though I have no experience with it. You may want to check it out, or just add a fat burner.

[CuChulainn]

Hmm... interesting. I will have to look up furza, i am hoping to gain a few (5?) lbs of lbm and lose about 10lbs of body fat. (i would have thought that was long strech, but hell, i am up 8lbs in 2 weeks with a pluse... it doesnt sound that unreasonable anymore)

back to the log:
did 20/10 today, and had an awesome workout. I am switching up my routine so i can try and hit back and shoulders 2x a week (they are my two weakest spots IMHO) and had a splendid workout until the end, where i felt hypoglycemic like a mofo (which i am sure it was, i had my post workout shake and felt all better), also had such massive pumps in my shoulders it almost hurt, which is a first. I guess I need to eat more carbs pre-workout when on 20/10 to avoid hypoglycemia, I blame todays problem on the fact that I got my workout delayed by an hour by my lady, so I super-setted everything in order to get out of the gym at a reasonable time and take my post-dose of mdrol as early as possible.

[Schism]

You might try sipping on a soda or juice during your workouts to minimize the hypo feeling. A hard-ass workout makes me feel like that anyways sometimes, and I found just sipping on something sweet before/during my workout really helps a lot!

[CuChulainn]

good idea, will try that on wednesday

[CuChulainn]

214.6 after my morning piss, and before breakfast. Rather dehydrated too, so its not bloat. This **** gets me excited every time i step on the scale!

Still no real sides at the end of week 3 (at 20/10)

Side note: Played a game of football on thursday, and no matter how hard you hit the gym, it really doesnt prepare your body fully for a game of sport. It feels like every muscle in my body is on fire, especially my hip flexors and obliques... I LOVE IT. I think its going to become an every thursday thing.

[Schism]

I'm stoked for you man, you've made some great gains. I'll be starting the almost exact same cycle in a week so that's really good to hear!! Any more negative sides to report? Have you had problems going hypo again?