[BrMe86]

Stats:
22 y/o
5'9"
165lbs

P-Plex dosing
Days 1-5: 15mg
Days 6-21: 30mg
Days 22-?: ?

post cycle therapy - Nolva 40/30/20/10

I probably won't go over 30mg for the rest of the cycle. The cycle started Sunday 2/3. I frontloaded one week with Life Support. I didn't realize that it's half the dose of Cycle Support, so I'm double dosing that until I get the Cycle Support that I ordered in the mail later this week. I'm not using an AI right now because I don't know that I'll really need it. I can get my hands on one as soon as I want it if I feel I need to add it in. I also have Taurine and Magnesium for back pumps. This is my first cycle.

Diet:
+300gr of protein from food
3500 cals
Clean bulk

Training:
DFT 5X5

Additional supps:
Whey - 20gr pre & 60gr post
Malto/Dextrose pre & post
Fish oil - 4-6gr
Vitamin
MSM/Glucosamine/Chondroitin (900/1500/1200)

Summary
Sides - I had a bit of lethargy during weeks 2-3. I also had some problems with back pumps. Taurine and magnesium helped with that. The pumps were caused in part by poor hydration. Libido was solid. No acne.

Gains - My BW was up 13 lbs at one point from the start of the cycle. I finally leveled off at 173lbs (8lb gain). 5X5 on bench press went up 5 lbs twice a week during weeks 2 & 3. This is one of my weaker lifts.

Overall - I think that my gains were not worth the money. That's partly because I still have plenty of room for natural progression. I liked the compound overall. Sides were very mild and the gains were good.

[BrMe86]

Monday 2/4 - Day 2 of cycle

Squats - 5X5 235
Bench - 5X5 175
T-bar Rows - 5X5 100
Tricep stuff

Body weight - 165

Squats are A2G. My 5RM going 'parallel' is around 315, but I just made the switch so I'm taking it easy. Squats should be up 10-20lbs every week. Bench sucks but I've made changes and it can't do anything other than improve now.

I have back pumps already, I think. They're mild. I'm posting this a day late (Tuesday). My calves have been cramping today also. Water + Taurine + Magnesium seems to help. I don't guess I'll have anything important to say until next week, but I'll keep the log updated.

EDIT: I think those cramps were just random.

[elcid2007]

just finished running 4 weeks of p-plex. Unfortunately, I am not a strong responder to the compound as far as strength and the 'on' feeling others report. Gained 11 pounds on cycle over the course of the 4 weeks. Took me 3 weeks to even really 'feel' the compound working

[BrMe86]

Wed 2/6 - Day 4 of cycle
Deadlifts - 5X3 285, 295, 305, 315, 325
Arnolds - 5X5 55
Chins - 3X8
Ab work
Superset
Lat Pulls - 3X8 120
Reverse Curls - 3X8 45

Body weight - 169

Good workout. Not much has changed since I posted yesterday. Already at 240gr of protein on the day and I have two meals left. The lat pulls were very light...just worked on form and squeezed/held at the bottom. I did reverse curls just so I could superset the lat pulls with something.

[BrMe86]

Fri 2/8 - Day 6 of cycle

Squats - 5X5 225, 235, 245, 255, 265
Bench - 5X5 175
T-Bar Rows - 5X5 90
Incline Bench - 3X8 145
Tricep stuff

Body weight - 171

First day at 30mg PP. Weight is up a little more. Decent workout. Sore lower back...ruptured discs suck.

[BrMe86]

Day 9 of cycle

Bench - 5X5 180
Squats - 1X2 255, 2X5 225
Rows - 5X6 90
Tricep work

My back is messed up pretty badly. Couldn't do much with squats. I'm taking it easy...stretching, ice, and heat on the back...probably light deads on Wednesday. We'll see how it feels. Forgot to weigh myself also. Still no sides...I think the cramps that I had last week were not related. Well, libido is higher, but that's all.

[BrMe86]

Day 11 of cycle

Deadlifts - 5X3 285, 305, 315, 325, 335
Standing Shoulder Press - 5X5 115, 125, 125, 135, 135
Chin ups - 5X5 BW
DB Shrugs - 2X8 60, 75
Straight Bar Curls

BW - 173

Couldn't remember what weight to do for shoulder press. My triceps have gotten a lot stronger over the past couple of weeks. Deadlifts were heavy. Body weight is still going up. I think the PP is finally kicking in. I'm just focusing on hitting my numbers during the workouts and in the kitchen. I should have done before and after pictures. The pumps during workouts are fun. No side effects so far....

[Brian5225]

awesomeman,keep up the good work, i'm subbed. gonna run it in a few months. How's bodyfat been so far?

[BrMe86]

I have probably put on 3lbs of body fat out of the 8 gained so far. I'm sort of surprised. My maintenance calories are around 2600. I'm taking in around 3300 right now. Protein is still over 300gr a day. I didn't want to put on so much fat, but I'm not going to mess with things in the middle of the cycle. I've had 3 cheat meals in the past 3-4 weeks. It's been clean..even when I cheated, it wasn't too bad. I'm liking the cycle so far.

[bigpoppapump2]

good luck bro! you're gonna have fun with the p-plex!

[BrMe86]

Day 13

Bench - 5X5 185
Squats - 5X5 265
Rows - 5X5 95
Accessory work

Body weight - 173

Um...185 was easier today than 180 was on Monday. The plan was 185 next week, but I might go for 190 on Monday. I don't know what the deal is with my weight. If I haven't put on a lb or two by Monday, I'm going to increase calories by 300. Back felt better today. I know my numbers aren't that impressive, but my form has been great lately. I'm evening out in the places that were underdeveloped. Better mind-muscle connection. Everything is looking good.

Sides: After bench, I went to do squats. I couldn't get my hands on the bar and my neck on the other side...upper back was cramped like crazy. I stretched and stretched and it hurt like hell. I finally just sucked it up and lifted.

[BrMe86]

Mon - Day 16

Squats - 5X5 275
Bench - 5X5 190
DB Rows - 5X5 70
Dips - 3X11 BW+35
Hack Squats

Weight - 173

Good workout. Bench has been going up a lot. P-Plex has really kicked in. Hack squats were really deep...mostly just a stretch. Squats felt light. Not going to increase calories yet...maybe Wednesday if the weight is the same.

[BrMe86]

Day 18

Deadlifts - WU, 5X3 305, 315, ---
Standing shoulder press - 5X5 135
Lat pulls
curls

BW - 174

Obliterated my lower back...don't know what the deal is. I was a little tight, but had a longgg warmup and stretched a little. I was halfway up on the last rep of the second set, could feel the strain in my hams, back wasn't rounded...then it felt like my spine just twisted/slipped right on my ruptured disc (L5,S1). Had to cut those short because I could barely bend over to reach the bar. I just can't really walk or stand or sit very much. Icing it now, so maybe I won't be out of the game for too long. Rest of the workout sucked...shoulder press was painful because of the back. I did light curls and lat pulls...just concentrated on form. Deep, slow reps with a hold/squeeze at the bottom. I don't think I'll be doing squats or deads for a while. Maybe leg press...we'll see Friday. No notable side effects to speak of.

[BrMe86]

Day 20

Bench - 5X5 195
Rows - 5X5 105
Calve raises - 4X15 90
Leg Press - 4X10 200
CH Bench

Body weight - 174.5

Good workout...managed to do some leg press. I was planning on running the cycle for 5-6 weeks, but might end it sometime next week. Just depends on the back. If I can't at least go heavy with leg press, then I'm not going to bother.

Sides: Calves were cramping. I don't think I'll be doing calve raises any more unless it's the very last thing I do before I walk out of the gym.

[BrMe86]

Day 23

Bench press - 3X5 200, 2X5 195
Random stuff

Body weight - 175.5

Did some circuit training and supersets with one of my buddies today. High reps...I've never been so sore during/directly after a workout in my life. Couldn't do squats today because of the back. The plan is to do some light squats at some point next week. Flying by the seat of my pants right now.

I didn't hit my planned progression (5X5 @ 200) on bench today. I've been waiting for this to happen. I was planning to up the dose to 45mg and run that for 1-2 weeks or until sides come up as soon as I slowed down. Anyone think I shouldn't?

[Cool]

At 165-175lbs, I think 30mg is plenty. This is some powerful stuff here. I'd up cals/protein before anything else.

[BrMe86]

Cool...thanks for the feedback. I agree with ya...that's what I was leaning towards doing. I'm terrified of all the sides that go along with orals. Aside from the fact that I'm not that big, like you said.

Calories were at 4000 today. I am going to keep it there for the rest of the cycle. I mostly just increased carbs though. I'm already taking in +300gr of protein from whole food. I think my metabolism is increasing. I'm starting to become hungry all the time when just a few weeks ago I was stuffed eating 3300-3500 cals.

[DBinMD]

Originally Posted by BrMe86

Day 23

Bench press - 3X5 200, 2X5 195
Random stuff

Body weight - 175.5

I didn't hit my planned progression (5X5 @ 200) on bench today. I've been waiting for this to happen. I was planning to up the dose to 45mg and run that for 1-2 weeks or until sides come up as soon as I slowed down. Anyone think I shouldn't?

Wish I caught this log sooner; I’m not sure how I missed it. You’re body weight and bench are still going up, so I don’t see a need to up the dose either. You may not have gotten this work out’s goal, but still, you’ve put at least 20 lb on your bench in 23 days. If you stall on your next wo you can try going up a full or half dose. I did a cycle in January, I peaked during the 5th week. I went into week 6, but probably should’ve stop at the 5th.

I know that 5x5 275 means 5 sets of 5 reps, but I’m not sure what 5X3 305, 315. Anyway, do you realize that aas will increase your muscle strength faster than your tendon strength? This can put you at greater risk of injury especially since you have a pre-existing condition. I’m not sure what the answer is, normally I’d suggest keeping the reps medium to high, except I pulled what I think is a hip tendon on my last cycle while doing a set of 12. It wasn’t that bad though. This is why some recommend Cissus. Normally, I’m happy with Glucosamine/Chondroitin, too, (you didn’t specify how much) but next time I think I’m going to add Cissus.