pebble
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I have been reading on and off about PHs for about a year now and will be doing my first cycle soon. I figured I would go with a PH commonly accepted as mild; I have chosen Hdrol.
My goal is more recomp than mass, but I will not complain if I add a little bit of fat to gain a little extra muscle. I would like to add around 7-10lbs of muscle by the end of cycle. More muscle is always welcome, but I want to set realistic goals so I am not disappointed at the end of this experience.
Background
Age:25
Height: 5'8''
Weight: 173lbs
BF: Approx 12-15%
Training Exp:4 years, 2 serious
Diet: Current - 3200-3400kcal/d, On Cycle - 3700-4000kcal/d
Regularly used supplements
Creatine
BCAA
Fish Oil
Multi
10 week Cycle
Pre Load/ Cycle Support (2 weeks)
Generic Milk Thistle
Hawthorn
Fish Oil
Saw Palmetto/ Nizoral (know this isn't a supplement but I will only be using for the cycle)
- I hate the idea I may shed; I hope this helps.
On Cycle (4weeks)
Hdrol 25mg x 2
Cycle Support (as listed in pre load)
Post Cycle (4 weeks)
AE Rebound
AE Retain2
Cycle Support (as listed in pre load)
SERM? - Toremifene
120mcgx5d/ 90mcgx7d/ 60mcgx7d / 30mcgx9d
From all the reading it seems like not everyone thinks a SERM is necessary for this mild of a cycle. I am going to play it on the safe side and go ahead with Torem(liquid).
I have everything on hand right now except the Torem (on the way). I will not be starting the cycle (Hdrol) until I have the Torem on hand, but have already started the preload.
Questions
How do the Kcals looks? Will I need more?
Does it look like I have everything necessary?
Remove something?
How about the setup of Torem? Should I adjust the amounts?
Is there any problem with having the preload run longer if I encounter problems acquiring the Torem?
Any additional advice would be appreciated. And if you need more info feel free to ask.
My goal is more recomp than mass, but I will not complain if I add a little bit of fat to gain a little extra muscle. I would like to add around 7-10lbs of muscle by the end of cycle. More muscle is always welcome, but I want to set realistic goals so I am not disappointed at the end of this experience.
Background
Age:25
Height: 5'8''
Weight: 173lbs
BF: Approx 12-15%
Training Exp:4 years, 2 serious
Diet: Current - 3200-3400kcal/d, On Cycle - 3700-4000kcal/d
Regularly used supplements
Creatine
BCAA
Fish Oil
Multi
10 week Cycle
Pre Load/ Cycle Support (2 weeks)
Generic Milk Thistle
Hawthorn
Fish Oil
Saw Palmetto/ Nizoral (know this isn't a supplement but I will only be using for the cycle)
- I hate the idea I may shed; I hope this helps.
On Cycle (4weeks)
Hdrol 25mg x 2
Cycle Support (as listed in pre load)
Post Cycle (4 weeks)
AE Rebound
AE Retain2
Cycle Support (as listed in pre load)
SERM? - Toremifene
120mcgx5d/ 90mcgx7d/ 60mcgx7d / 30mcgx9d
From all the reading it seems like not everyone thinks a SERM is necessary for this mild of a cycle. I am going to play it on the safe side and go ahead with Torem(liquid).
I have everything on hand right now except the Torem (on the way). I will not be starting the cycle (Hdrol) until I have the Torem on hand, but have already started the preload.
Questions
How do the Kcals looks? Will I need more?
Does it look like I have everything necessary?
Remove something?
How about the setup of Torem? Should I adjust the amounts?
Is there any problem with having the preload run longer if I encounter problems acquiring the Torem?
Any additional advice would be appreciated. And if you need more info feel free to ask.