fcpcjc's Xtreme-Tren & MMA-3 Log

fcpcjc · 02-04-2008, 10:02 AM

I originally was going to do Tren-Xtreme and AH-89, but I wasn't able to get my products quick enough. I already had Xtreme-Tren & MMA-3 on hand, so I decided to go ahead and do a 4 week cycle of those 2.

Stats:
Age: 24
Height: 5'10
Weight: 165lbs
Body Fat: 9%
Years Training: 5 years, last 2 years have been very consistent.
Other Training: MMA (Jiu-jitsu, Boxing, Wrestling, Muay-Thai)

Past Cycles:
DBOL & Test. Cyp
Anavar & Winstrol
MuscleTech Mass Stack (Leukic, Gakic, Creakic)
Cell Tech
Halodrol Liquidgels
X-Factor

Current Cycle:
Xtreme-Tren - 90mg/ED
MMA-3: 800mg/ED

3 Protein Shakes a day (current Brand and flavor is Nectar - Roadside Lemonade)

I'm also taking Milk Thistle and Multi-vitamins.

post cycle therapy:
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20

For emergencies I have Arimidex and Letrozole on hand.

With this cycle I'm hoping to add lean mass while reducing body fat (don't really care how much, as long as some goes away).

The compounds in these products are:

Xtreme-Tren: Estra-4,9-diene-3, 17-dione
MMA-3: 1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione

The G Train · 02-04-2008, 11:11 AM

FYI, the MMA-3 is actually 1,4 andro which needs like 800mg a day with about 6-8 weeks to be effective. How many mg's are in each pill and how many in the bottle?

fcpcjc · 02-04-2008, 11:12 AM

100mg each pill and 90 capsules in the bottle.

i pulled the compound information directly from the manufacturer's website.

fcpcjc · 02-04-2008, 11:37 AM

not trying to insult your intelligence or anything bro, so dont take this the wrong way, but you are sure it takes 800mg to be effective?

i want to be absolutely positive if i up the dose nearly 3x what is recommended.

thanks

The G Train · 02-04-2008, 12:50 PM

search the board for 1,4 bold, or 1,4 andro. The minimum suggested dosage was 600mg and the top was 1gr. Some people think the compound is a waste of time. Others ran it well with Epi.

fcpcjc · 02-04-2008, 12:55 PM

how would you recommend i would take it? 8 different times through out the day, or take more than 1 pill at a time?

**matthew76** · 02-04-2008, 07:14 PM

It's 1 gram... some have used it at 1.5 with no results.

The G Train · 02-04-2008, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fcpcjc

how would you recommend i would take it? 8 different times through out the day, or take more than 1 pill at a time?

More than one pill at a time with food. Depending on how much you dose, you might be better off using all of it one hour preworkout with food.

fcpcjc · 02-05-2008, 01:07 PM

Today is day 2 of this stack.

I upped the dose of MMA-3 from 300mg/ED to 900mg/ED. I'm going to see how this works then adjust from there.

Yesterday I took 90mg of Xtreme-Tren & 900mg of MMA-3. It's still too early to really see anything different. I did shoulders yesterday.

I don't know what it was, maybe something I ate, but I got extremely nauseas last night and even vomited. I never throw up - never.

I just took my second dosages of the day for Xtreme-Tren & MMA-3 about 5 minutes ago. No real change on the inside.. or at least not one I can feel anyway.

Like I said, it is still too early to see/feel anything, but just wanted to check in so everybody can follow along.

For those curious, here's my workout schedule:
Sunday - CHEST
Monday - SHOULDERS
Tuesday - ARMS
Wednesday - LEGS/BACK
Thursday - LIGHT CHEST/CARDIO

I do a little cardio before each workout.. usually 1.5 miles.. somedays I'll do 2 miles. My chest is really weak when compared to the rest of my body, so I try to do a light routine on Thursday's (usually dumb bell bench rather than flat bench, etc.). My cardio on Thursday usually consists of 2.5 miles on the tread mill then .5 miles on the elliptical.

My main goal, strength wise, is to up my bench by at least 25lbs. Right now I max out at a weak 210lbs.

suncloud · 02-05-2008, 03:08 PM

lol... this is awesome. i started my Tren extreme cycle yesterday too. i might be asking you for some advice in the future if i run into any problems. do you know offhand if milk thistle is needed for this, since tren is non methyl-ated? also, good luck to you.

my log for the cycle is posted below, so if you have any questions / problems come up, sned me a message. Acl Tren Extreme Cycle

fcpcjc · 02-05-2008, 03:20 PM

With any oral pro-hormone/steroid, I run milk thistle. Milk thistle will not hurt you or lessen your strength/gains, so I run it. I picked up a bottle of Milk thistle for $9 at the local Pharmacy.

fcpcjc · 02-06-2008, 10:27 AM

DAY 2
As noted earlier I was experiencing a lot of nausness from the first day. I'm not sure if this was due to the supplements or if I had a bad day. Well, after taking my second dosages for the day on day 2, I felt nauseas again. Maybe this is lethargy? I'm not sure, I've never experienced it before. I did throw up the first day, but not the second. It went away after an hour or so.

Tuesday is tri's/bi's. I haven't noticed any change in my moods (motivation wise). I did, however, seem to be hot and sweat the whole time while I was at the gym and even for about 10 minutes when I get home. That could be attributed to the unseasonable warm weather though. My workout intensity didn't seem to change at all either.

Stepped on the scaled and my weight is 165lbs.

After running 3/4 of a mile I started getting very mild calf pumps. Nothing bad. Hopefully they don't turn into anything serious, because I have to do cardio everyday.

Hopefully within the next week or so I'll start to see some mental and physical changes with these two compounds.

If the nauseas continues after this week, I may consider dropping one of the compounds.

If anybody has experienced something similar and knows how to counteract it or make it better, let me know.

Thanks

suncloud · 02-06-2008, 10:43 AM

this is my 2nd cycle of tren extreme, first one i'm logging. i didn't have nausea when i took it last time, nor this time. are you taking it with food? its not recommended to take it on an empty stomach - consider upping the carbs in the meal you take it with. thats all i can think of brotha.

fcpcjc · 02-06-2008, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suncloud

this is my 2nd cycle of tren extreme, first one i'm logging. i didn't have nausea when i took it last time, nor this time. are you taking it with food? its not recommended to take it on an empty stomach - consider upping the carbs in the meal you take it with. thats all i can think of brotha.

thanks for info bro
yeah im taking it with food. ill up the carbs and see how it does. i wonder if maybe its the MMA-3 rather than the tren??

suncloud · 02-06-2008, 12:38 PM

that would be my 2nd guess. my best friend is a mechanic and i stick to his philosophy - always check the simplest thing first. best of luck.

fcpcjc · 02-07-2008, 09:24 AM

DAY 3

My body is starting to stay tight and my muscles feel more solid. The lethargy has subsided. I have once again changed the dosage of the MMA-3. I'm taking 800/mg now. Ever since I changed the dosage just a tiny bit (100/mg difference) I feel no lethargy.

I may do a light chest workout today after boxing/sparring class. I'll post everything either later tonight or tomorrow.

**tattoopierced1** · 02-07-2008, 10:53 AM

taurine and potassium should help with the cramps.