should i use a ainti estrogen during mdrol cycle
- 12-30-2007, 10:34 PM
- 12-31-2007, 09:30 AM
There is always a mix of ideas on the subject, but it makes sense to me to use a strong AI during cycle, and a weeker AI post cycle E.O.D. (calc-D glucarate/dim/chrysin), with a serm, test booster, and a cortisol blocker. The AI during cycle will keep the higher amounts of test in your body for a longer period of time since they are not being converted. And post cycle you want estrogen to rise, if it doesn;t you want regain balance. Just what I think bc I believe Dave Palumbo when it comes to this stuff, but I am sure someone on here disagrees
- 12-31-2007, 01:47 PM
thanks for the tip
what do you think the proper pct would be?
12-31-2007, 03:51 PM
Cycle = m-drol + cycle support + formestane
PCT = nolva, clomid, or torem + 7-hydroxy-dhea (lean xtreme or reduce xt), and ur fav. test booster (paravol, activate, vitrix)
I like paravol bc it has some AIs in it, and take ZMA before bed during PCT. It is also a good idea to include life support in pct, same as cycle support but halfdosage
12-31-2007, 04:17 PM
I would strongly suggest you use Cycle Support during the cycle as well as during PCT.
Also using POST Cycle Support during your PCT to help you get back to normal.
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12-31-2007, 05:38 PM
is forza-t good?
for a pct novex 40/20/20
forza t 2-3 caps at night
live-52 2 caps a day
12-31-2007, 11:46 PM
01-01-2008, 02:00 PM
would this be sufficient
01-05-2008, 01:00 PM
I would not recommend using an AI while on cycle. A DS rep said that Superdrol (Mdrol) lowers estrogen so theres no reason to try and lower it any more. All you're going to do is increase the chance of a wicked estrogen rebound months down the road.
01-05-2008, 08:12 PM
Would ATD be too much, not enough, or not needed for PCT after a 3 week M-drol cycle?
Current PCT lined up is Nolva 40/40/20/20, Paravol as directed, X-lean 2-3 caps a day.
My standard support is Sam-e 400mg/day, hawthorne berry, saw palmetto, policosanol.
01-06-2008, 01:01 AM
Paravol is a mild AI, the pct you have would be enough imo, although I would get another bottle of paravol and startr it half way through cycle
01-06-2008, 02:36 PM
wouldnt make sense to use an anti est unless sides flare up.
reason being, m drol (an SD clone - which is DHT based) is NOT aromatizable what so ever (itll have to take a step back into regular test and then aromatize into the estrogen which will not happen)
M drol is supposed to be VERY dry, and using an anti estrogen during cycle may actually cause problems (too low estro levels)
i would use it PCT and possibly after pct because of possible rebound effects
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