H-Drol/Epistane Log

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  1. H-Drol/Epistane Log


    Just to make things clear I know what I am doing. I have all of my support supps and post cycle therapy ready. I will not update everyday just when I either feel like it or if I notice something major, but I will update a few times a week.

    About Me: 21y/o, 6'5", 220-225lbs, ~8-10% BF
    Experience: I ran a cycle of M-Drol over the summer and made some nice gains.

    So here it is. This cycle started on 11/21.

    The Cycle:
    Weeks 1-4 H-Drol 50mgs/day
    Weeks 3-6 Epistane 10mgs/Day ramped up to 30mgs/day

    Support Supps:
    AI Cycle Support
    Fish Oil
    ON's Opti-Men Multi
    PrimaForce ZMA
    CoQ10
    Nimbus Nutrition Swell
    Scivation Xtend

    PCT:
    Torem
    AI POst Cycle Support
    Tirbulus/Fenugreek
    Anabolic Xtreme Retain2
    ALRI Restore

    Well with all that out of the way feel free to follow me along as I attempt to get big.

    -BigAsian


  2. good luck how r u going to be dosing the torem??
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  3. Any reason why you're using Retain and Restore?

  4. good lookin cycle bro, subb'd

  5. I'm thinkin bout doin the exact same cycle except with Hemaguno instead of Epistane (they have the same active ingredient I beleive)

    i know some sup's "kick-in" later in the cycle Does epistane/havoc/hemaguno do the same thing? or does it kick in, after a few weeks.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by matthew76 View Post
    Any reason why you're using Retain and Restore?
    i was under the impression retain2 is more for cortisol control then estrogen control, which is why i was gonna add in restore for estrogen control.

  7. You've got AI PCS and Torem for that... I would recommend that you save the Restore for a later time. It would be a waste to use it.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by king1033 View Post
    good luck how r u going to be dosing the torem??
    thx for following along,

    I was gonna run it
    ~1week @ 120mgs
    ~1week @ 90mgs
    ~1week @ 60mgs
    ~1week @ 30mgs

    i think i will be easier to do it this way since i have liquid torem and it is dosed at 60mgs/ml

  9. Quote Originally Posted by matthew76 View Post
    You've got AI PCS and Torem for that... I would recommend that you save the Restore for a later time. It would be a waste to use it.
    I was actually going to run the restore inversely to the serm, but i know you are very knowledgeable as i have read many of your posts so if you believe that saving it is a better idea i will listen.

  10. I can speak for the use of Restore and it's inability to do much. I hate to say that, but that's the truth.

    You're good with the remander of your PCT set-up... should be a great one. Retain is an excellent choice for Cort control.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by soulitarysoul View Post
    I'm thinkin bout doin the exact same cycle except with Hemaguno instead of Epistane (they have the same active ingredient I beleive)

    i know some sup's "kick-in" later in the cycle Does epistane/havoc/hemaguno do the same thing? or does it kick in, after a few weeks.
    I have read epi "kicks in" within the first week, but h-drol takes a few weeks to kick in.

    i am almost a week in and it i have noticd i am more vascular though the day and endurance is through the roof. strength is up but only slightly. no sides yet, but too early to determine, no back pumps or increased acne yet.

    I would stick to the ones we all know to work, i was under the impression that there hasnt been alot of info on hemaguno.

  12. Fortunately, back pumps are not really noticable with those two compounds. When the H-Drol does kick in, you'll fell an increase in overall mood (for the better) at first, then strength... You'll like it alot!

  13. you are tight about the positive mood change i have noticed that from the first day, though it is too soon for h-drol to kick in must be placebo.

  14. F-ucking count me in!

    By the way, thanks for the past advice, BigAsian. I'm very interested in this cycle. I've been wanting to try H-Drol and Epistane, but never thought about stacking them. I'm looking forward to your results. Good luck!

  15. I think that the cycle looks good and it's VERY mild. You can get away with PCT of AI's PCS for the full month with Retain 2 and maybe just 3 days of torem at 120mgs for the 3 days. That's just my two-bits worth.
    Freedom means nothing here.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    I think that the cycle looks good and it's VERY mild. You can get away with post cycle therapy of AI's PCS for the full month with Retain 2 and maybe just 3 days of torem at 120mgs for the 3 days. That's just my two-bits worth.
    thx...i have seen your posts on using sustain as a part of pct as well...i was thinking of giving that a try but id rather be safe for right now.i was thinking on cutting a week off of torem. but will see how my body responds.

    Thank you for all your replies and advice regarding this cycle.

    keep following me while i try to get big.

    -BigAsian

  17. Torem's half-life is so great that you can actually miss a week at the end and still be good. Espesially since the cycle is mild in andro sides. Derm. Sustain is a great product and should be looked at alot more then what it is. You'll be suprised on how well it works. I myself, do not like research chems and I'm glad they're products such as E-Form, Derm. Sustain and PCS.

  18. i will definitely run another h-drol cycle around spring/summer maybe run it solo and increase the dose. and depending on how i like epi maybe run that solo also later next year.

    i was reading heavily on using derm sustain as a pct option but not enough people have done that for me to be comfortable doing it also. i like to see more reviews of how people think it worked. i will definitely give this a shot in one of my next cycles. if i can avoid research chems i will.

  19. MuscleguyinNy, hey man how ya been? thx for following.

    I havent posted my training split yet so here it is:

    monday: chest
    tuesday: back
    wednesday: legs
    thursday: shoulders
    friday: arms
    saturday: rest or heavy abs
    sunday: rest or heavy abs

    I also do 30 mins treadmill at max incline 3-5x a week in the morning and a few ab exercises after every workout.

  20. subbed

  21. I'm wondering why (particularly at your size) only 50mg a day of halo. i'd think 75 would be a good bit better, but I guess on a single bottle of 60 caps, you've got 30 days at 50.

  22. Awesome looks like a great cycle. Come monday I'm going with 50mg H-Drol and 20mg Epi for 2 weeks then 75mg H-Drol and 30mg Epi for 2 weeks! I loved the results with just H-Drol so this should be entertaining.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BigAsian View Post
    MuscleguyinNy, hey man how ya been? thx for following.

    I havent posted my training split yet so here it is:

    monday: chest
    tuesday: back
    wednesday: legs
    thursday: shoulders
    friday: arms
    saturday: rest or heavy abs
    sunday: rest or heavy abs

    I also do 30 mins treadmill at max incline 3-5x a week in the morning and a few ab exercises after every workout.
    I've been doing better. I've had a lot of sh!t going on lately. How have you been?

    I must say, I was all over this post once I saw it. I've decided to run Epistane for my first cycle. My second cycle might consist of H-Drol. We'll see how the first one goes. I plan on starting sometime within the next few weeks and I'll definitely be logging it.

    I'm anxious to see your results from this cycle. I wish you the best of luck.

  24. im thinking of running i cycle like this over the summer, my only problem is getting pct things like nolvadex or torem, im following this to see how this goes.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I'm wondering why (particularly at your size) only 50mg a day of halo. i'd think 75 would be a good bit better, but I guess on a single bottle of 60 caps, you've got 30 days at 50.
    you are correct. plus i am bridgin over to epistane at week 3 so i figured even 50mgs/day will be enough once i start epi.

    so week 3 and 4 will look like this:
    week3: 50mgs h-drol 20mgs epi
    week4: 50mgs h-drol 30mgs epi

    then week 5 and 6 will only be epi:

    week5: 30mgs epi
    week6: 40mgs epi

    but i do plan on running hdrol as a stand alone next year around spring to cut while gaining a little size. i will definitely run higher doses then.

    thx everyone for all your input thus far.
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