- 11-26-2007, 08:34 PM
Just to make things clear I know what I am doing. I have all of my support supps and post cycle therapy ready. I will not update everyday just when I either feel like it or if I notice something major, but I will update a few times a week.
About Me: 21y/o, 6'5", 220-225lbs, ~8-10% BF
Experience: I ran a cycle of M-Drol over the summer and made some nice gains.
So here it is. This cycle started on 11/21.
Weeks 1-4 H-Drol 50mgs/day
Weeks 3-6 Epistane 10mgs/Day ramped up to 30mgs/day
AI Cycle Support
ON's Opti-Men Multi
Nimbus Nutrition Swell
AI POst Cycle Support
Anabolic Xtreme Retain2
Well with all that out of the way feel free to follow me along as I attempt to get big.
- 11-26-2007, 09:13 PM
11-26-2007, 11:39 PM
11-26-2007, 11:45 PM
11-27-2007, 12:09 AM
I'm thinkin bout doin the exact same cycle except with Hemaguno instead of Epistane (they have the same active ingredient I beleive)
i know some sup's "kick-in" later in the cycle Does epistane/havoc/hemaguno do the same thing? or does it kick in, after a few weeks.
11-27-2007, 01:05 AM
11-27-2007, 01:21 AM
You've got AI PCS and Torem for that... I would recommend that you save the Restore for a later time. It would be a waste to use it.
11-27-2007, 01:27 AM
11-27-2007, 01:28 AM
11-27-2007, 01:31 AM
I can speak for the use of Restore and it's inability to do much. I hate to say that, but that's the truth.
You're good with the remander of your PCT set-up... should be a great one. Retain is an excellent choice for Cort control.
11-27-2007, 01:33 AM
i am almost a week in and it i have noticd i am more vascular though the day and endurance is through the roof. strength is up but only slightly. no sides yet, but too early to determine, no back pumps or increased acne yet.
I would stick to the ones we all know to work, i was under the impression that there hasnt been alot of info on hemaguno.
11-27-2007, 01:38 AM
Fortunately, back pumps are not really noticable with those two compounds. When the H-Drol does kick in, you'll fell an increase in overall mood (for the better) at first, then strength... You'll like it alot!
11-27-2007, 01:57 AM
you are tight about the positive mood change i have noticed that from the first day, though it is too soon for h-drol to kick in must be placebo.
11-27-2007, 06:26 AM
F-ucking count me in!
By the way, thanks for the past advice, BigAsian. I'm very interested in this cycle. I've been wanting to try H-Drol and Epistane, but never thought about stacking them. I'm looking forward to your results. Good luck!
11-27-2007, 07:13 AM
I think that the cycle looks good and it's VERY mild. You can get away with PCT of AI's PCS for the full month with Retain 2 and maybe just 3 days of torem at 120mgs for the 3 days. That's just my two-bits worth.
Freedom means nothing here.
11-27-2007, 11:42 AM
Thank you for all your replies and advice regarding this cycle.
keep following me while i try to get big.
11-27-2007, 11:58 AM
Torem's half-life is so great that you can actually miss a week at the end and still be good. Espesially since the cycle is mild in andro sides. Derm. Sustain is a great product and should be looked at alot more then what it is. You'll be suprised on how well it works. I myself, do not like research chems and I'm glad they're products such as E-Form, Derm. Sustain and PCS.
11-27-2007, 12:17 PM
i will definitely run another h-drol cycle around spring/summer maybe run it solo and increase the dose. and depending on how i like epi maybe run that solo also later next year.
i was reading heavily on using derm sustain as a pct option but not enough people have done that for me to be comfortable doing it also. i like to see more reviews of how people think it worked. i will definitely give this a shot in one of my next cycles. if i can avoid research chems i will.
11-27-2007, 01:49 PM
MuscleguyinNy, hey man how ya been? thx for following.
I havent posted my training split yet so here it is:
saturday: rest or heavy abs
sunday: rest or heavy abs
I also do 30 mins treadmill at max incline 3-5x a week in the morning and a few ab exercises after every workout.
11-27-2007, 08:19 PM
11-27-2007, 09:22 PM
I'm wondering why (particularly at your size) only 50mg a day of halo. i'd think 75 would be a good bit better, but I guess on a single bottle of 60 caps, you've got 30 days at 50.
11-27-2007, 10:13 PM
Awesome looks like a great cycle. Come monday I'm going with 50mg H-Drol and 20mg Epi for 2 weeks then 75mg H-Drol and 30mg Epi for 2 weeks! I loved the results with just H-Drol so this should be entertaining.
11-27-2007, 10:26 PM
I must say, I was all over this post once I saw it. I've decided to run Epistane for my first cycle. My second cycle might consist of H-Drol. We'll see how the first one goes. I plan on starting sometime within the next few weeks and I'll definitely be logging it.
I'm anxious to see your results from this cycle. I wish you the best of luck.
11-27-2007, 11:39 PM
im thinking of running i cycle like this over the summer, my only problem is getting pct things like nolvadex or torem, im following this to see how this goes.
11-28-2007, 01:31 AM
so week 3 and 4 will look like this:
week3: 50mgs h-drol 20mgs epi
week4: 50mgs h-drol 30mgs epi
then week 5 and 6 will only be epi:
week5: 30mgs epi
week6: 40mgs epi
but i do plan on running hdrol as a stand alone next year around spring to cut while gaining a little size. i will definitely run higher doses then.
thx everyone for all your input thus far.
11-28-2007, 01:34 AM
11-29-2007, 12:12 AM
End of week 1 update:
I feel great. Endurance is up, strength is slightly up. weight is at 220. slightly lower than this morning. i will post my morning weight tom. i feel leaner than a week ago. might be the cardio, but good news is that i havent lost any weight from doing cardio either. i am much more vascular, and my muscles are gettin harder. which is good. libido is great. no loss. not anything more. just where i normally am. which is still really high. im one of the horniest bastards on the face of the earth. no seriously.
well i appreciate everyone that is following. please keep following. by the end of this cycle i hope to be in the neighborhood of 230lbs...i hope. im eating my ass off well trying to. sometimes school gets in the way..but only for 2 more weeks then no more school.
Any questions feel free to ask. If there is anything you feel i left out feel free to tell me.
11-29-2007, 03:49 AM
11-29-2007, 06:10 AM
wassup dude. Ill be checking this out.
I would suggest lowering the Torem dose. 120 for 3 days, 90 for 4 days, 60 for 10 days, 30 for 5 days, 15 for 5 days.
Support supps look good. Add creatine in there and use the Restore after PCT. I dont know about your dosages on hdrol and epi, you might need a little more than that.
11-29-2007, 01:56 PM
yeah i wasnt gonna run the doses posted the whole week that was just a basic outline. thats why i used the "~" before the the weeks. i have creatine i didnt list becasued i thinkk its a given.
i figured i could keep the doses of h-drol at 50mgs/day for 30 days because in 6 days i will be adding epi @ 20mgs/day and ramping it up to 40mgs/day for week4 of epi, week6 total.
keep in mind my cycle layout... this is just to see how this stack works... i may run this cycle again later next year or each solo at higher doses depending on how i feel at the end of the cycle.
Keep in mind this is a 6 week cycle. i am very excited to see how i feel by the end of next week.
P.S. morning wieght before workout on empty stomach: 224lbs. i believe this is my accurate weight. my weight before starting was 220-222lbs. the scales at my gym suck. you have to be there first thing in the morning before all the 400lber's get on the scales and **** them up. so i guestimate im up about 2lbs for week1
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