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Old 11-08-2007, 03:04 PM   #1
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BigV's Epistane Pulse

It's been a while since I've maintained a good log, and an even longer while (~3.5 yrs) since Ive used any kind of hormonal supplementation. Epistane is a very intiguing compound, and seems to be the best out of the post ban 'PH' type products to have been brought to market. After reading through Dr.D's pulsing article and several other user experience reports, I've decided to give an Epi pulse a run to see how it works for me.

Goal is to run a 4-5 week pulse and attain a noticeable decrease in bodyfat while maintaining musclemass and hopefully a marginal strength increase. More of a recomp than a serious cutter.

Current stats:

Age: 31
Height: 6'
Weight: 218
BF%: 12%

Cycle Plan:
Pulsing 3x a week M, W, F

Week 1 (10,20,30)
Week 2 (30,30,30)
Week 3 (40,40,40)
Week 4 (40,40,40)
Week 5 (40,40,40)

Supplementation:

Natural Anabolics:
Cissus Q. 6g (2g 3x/day)
Turkesterone 4g (1.4g 3x/day)
Rebound Reloaded (1cap/day at night)
Xtend 23mg (11.5 mg 2x/day)
Creatine Monohydrate (5g/day)

Thermogenics:
Green Tea Extract: 800mg (400mg 2x/day)
DS Basic Cuts (2caps 2x/day)
Yohimbine 5mg (2.5mg/day)
ALCAR 2g (1g 2x/day)
Sesamin 1500mg (500mg 3x/day)

Other Supps:
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Nutrition:
Multivitamin 1/day
Dessicated Liver 12 tabs (3 tabs 4x/day)

6 meals a day, eating very clean
Higher carb/calories on workout days ~(40/40/20)
Lowercarb/cals on off days

Training
Monday: Arms/abs
Wednesday: Chest/Delts
Thursday: Back/Delts
Friday: Legs/abs

Training delts 2x a week because I split them up over 2 workouts. They're kinda fragile so I dont want to push it. Some weeks I may end up doing back and chest(or legs) together, depending on how busy I am.(life is kinda crazy atm)

Shooting for 20-30min of cardio every weekday.

Still waiting for half the stuff to get here, but started the Epi on Monday.

I'll also be paying close attention to any effects on the hairline - I know some have experienced hair loss issues in epistane but I'm hoping the pulse method + the full spectrum of hair loss prevention crap I use will prevent that.

I havent run much for supplements in a few months - just sticking to the basics and its worked well. Saved a bunch of cash but I've got to the point where I need a little boost to get over a plateau. Now is the time

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Old 11-08-2007, 05:01 PM   #2
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Are you using the natty anabolics on off days?
 
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VERY NICE!

I will be checking it out.


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is that 4g of turkesterone as the steroid itself, or 4g of turkesterone X% by weight?
 
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is that 4g of turkesterone as the steroid itself, or 4g of turkesterone X% by weight?
2% by weight - it's the Turk that Nutraplanet 1st got in a few months ago. I never used it - cleaning out the supplement cabinet

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2% by weight - it's the Turk that Nutraplanet 1st got in a few months ago. I never used it - cleaning out the supplement cabinet

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Very nice. I used it a few months back @ 3g ED, and it seemed to work nicely for a "hardening" effect. This should do you well; however, probably not as well as 4g of actual turkesterone ED. :P
 
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Very nice. I used it a few months back @ 3g ED, and it seemed to work nicely for a "hardening" effect. This should do you well; however, probably not as well as 4g of actual turkesterone ED. :P
lol probably not!! Is pure Turk even available? I know Custom carries the 20%, which I might look into if this goes well:

http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/...20-p-1335.html
 




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I think they might be sold out of that.

I don't think pure turk is available in macroscale production. That would be sick, though.
 
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1st week down - feeling pretty good, but I dont really notice anything from the Epi, which I expected. Looking a little more full and leaner overall...but increased cardio and more intensity in the gym can account for that.

This is the 30mg/day week, 1st dose starting today.

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What sort of lifts are you doing BigV? or is that going beyond the scope of this log?
 
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What sort of lifts are you doing BigV? or is that going beyond the scope of this log?
Keeping things kind of old school - generally 2 heavy compound movements and then lighter, more intense exercises to focus on hypertrophy. Ive tried all kinds of workout routines over the years, and this definitely has af