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Old 11-08-2007, 08:30 PM   #31
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Today...
the numbers are reps...just to clearify
Squats-15 8 8 5 2
Rack Pulls - 10 6 5 2
Shrugs - 15 10 8
Face pulls - 10 8 8 8
Seated Leg exgtensions(machine)- 10 8 8 5
Lat pulldowns - 8 8 6
Walking Lunges- 22 steps w/ 55lb DBs
Hammer curls - 10 10 6 w/ supper sets of...
Regular curls - 8 4 4
Felt great today. I dont have the PreWO N.O. product boost but i def feel in the zone.
Lat Pulldowns went up.
During curls i felt as if my skin was goin to rip.
I hit traps hard casue it works for me, always has.
Legs i dont need much genetically i have big upper legs.
Chest is sore from yesterday, the feelingi had is pretty much gone, maybe it was small pumps? As my chest def looks more full as due my arms. Forearms too but i havent directly hit them at all.

Tomorrow i have a wedding at 530 but im hopin to get in and hit shoulders, abs, cardio, tris maybe chest but if its sore i wont.
weight is up 4-5 lbs. Staying fairly lean, i havew ab outline.

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Old 11-08-2007, 09:06 PM   #32
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Today...
Sucked. kind of.
Got up early, dint hit the gym...i know i know im slackin bad.
I had to shop for the wedding. Still ate good. Only thing was i missed my 2 dose of Mdrol and had to take it late....very veyr late as in 2:00am late. I just forgot my pill containerat home. So tomorrow will be....
shake w/Cycle Support & food
Lift then first dose.
Sadly my chest pain is still occuring and it is still only on the left side. I was dancing(or tryin to) tonight and noticed nothing bad.

No other sides to note.

So i will continue this cycle.

Just started gettin the chest pain. Well i just rubbed the muscle about 1inch under the nipple on my pec and it feels knotted compared to the other side. mmmmm....i may try to heat itor ice or 30 sec. of each for ahwile tomorrow during football.
 



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Old 11-10-2007, 07:07 PM   #34
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Today....
Mood was fair. Got into a bit of an arguement wiht my mom over dumb shyt, nothin new there.
Workout started strong but seemed to slowly fall off. So at mid way i took a 5-10 break ot hydrate and rest.
DB Press- 18 15
pushups - 20
Seated Row- 12 10 8 6 lbs:reps ratio is up.
Cable crossover- 10 8 6 Lbs:reps up
Hammer Curls - 9 Dropset w/ 20 @ 20lbs
Lat Pulldowns - 10 8 6 6 Lbs:reps up
Straight arm front raises(?)- 15 10 8
Bent single DB row- 8
rested here.
Pulldowns(tri's) - 10 8 8 dropset w/15 lbs:reps up
Dips - 20 16
Cardio - 5min @ 150 bpm

Overall, good mentality. Felt strong. Chest felt ok.
Legs are killing me still. From leg day and that i squeeze in cardio.

Contemplating pickin up some BCAA soon.
Look bigger...and weight is still up. Ill weigh in in the morn.
At the wedding last night i had multiple people grab my arm like i dint know what they were looking for. It was funny, i was wearing a fairly loose bleakc shirt so i must have still looked swoll.

PS- Cant wait for holidays and to let the family see me.
Anyone think Clen would be a bad idea maybe half way through PCT? If not i may just bulk hard through it and then cut hard.

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Clen in post cycle therapy is good for retaining those gains, staying lean, controlling cortisol, and keeping that 'on' intensity in the gym. When I use clen I lose bf and gain muscle as long as I keep those cals up and stay insane in the gym [EDIT: and I also avoid cardio like the plague]

If it is your first time using it, there is no need to ramp on the dosage too quickly. Start slow and enjoy it while it is effective because you get used to it fast.

If you are concerned that the effects will wear too quickly Ketotifen is a research chemical that will down regulate your beta receptors. Dose it before bed because it makes me drowsy. Benadryll is an OTC that some use for the same purpose but keep in mind Keto and Benadryll are not the same.
 
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Clen in post cycle therapy is good for retaining those gains, staying lean, and keeping that 'on' intensity in the gym. When I use clen I lose bf and gain muscle as long as I keep those cals up and stay insane in the gym.

If it is your first time using it, there is no need to ramp on the dosage too quickly. Start slow and enjoy it while it is effective because you get used to it fast.

If you are concerned that the effects will wear too quickly Ketotifen is a research chemical that will down regulate your beta receptors. Dose it before bed because it makes me drowsy. Benadryll is an OTC that some use for the same purpose but keep in mind Keto and Benadryll are not the same.
Thanks man. My post cycle therapy is
Deisel Test Hardcore
6oxo
Retain 2
PCS by AI
Torem
Im goin to get Clen soon just to have.
So Keto will help keep form tolerance build up? Id prolly go 2 day on 2 off. And yea keep the dose low, the sidesdont scare me but i work in retail and talk to guests all day so i dont want to be too noticably cracked out.
 



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If you use clen, drop the retain.
 
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hmmmm. maybe ill wait on the clen then. Retain solo for me was great, so i def wanted it in there. Alright, thanks man, much appreciated. Clen will wait it out then.
 



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Why not list the weight being lifted?

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To me the weight means nothign right? I mean if i lift 50lbs less than you but we both lift for the same reps...what does it matter? I will lift final lifts after cycle w/ weight. I write down all my big lifts and major difference in a notebook.

Pics...well. I have a camera phone. Im a pretty broke at home college student.(i have a new car, phone, food bills) This christman i may get one. The girl that was goin to take them for me, we got into an arguement. She choice not to talk to me for a week and thats why. She said she will take post cycle for me. Then i will also take post post cycle therapy ones also.

Today i noticed no differences. I am only at 5+ lbs. I am thinking it casue i uped my calls a bit. Then cleaned them up. I do see size improvement though.

I am currently searching for an "old" more reliable superdrol.
I have DX3 and Methylvol in a cart right now.

The weight is up though in lifts. I havent went to big bench, squat, dead yet.

The plan rihgt now is to go through PCT. Clen. Then basics for awhile(creatine, preWO boost, nighttime supp.) Then go back on to either Hdrol or another SD clone.

I know this log isnt crazy detailed but my next one will be.

Thanks everyone. Take care.

EDIT: Conpemplating goin to 30 3rd week. decide by wed. Also, i know this is a noob question but if i see no gyno signs, no ball shutdown, libido issues or anything. Do i really need Torem? I bought alot(i have anxiety and OCD issue kind of) but now im thinking i will never use any of it.
 



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To me the weight means nothign right? I mean if i lift 50lbs less than you but we both lift for the same reps...what does it matter? I will lift final lifts after cycle w/ weight. I write down all my big lifts and major difference in a notebook.

Pics...well. I have a camera phone. Im a pretty broke at home college student.(i have a new car, phone, food bills) This christman i may get one. The girl that was goin to take them for me, we got into an arguement. She choice not to talk to me for a week and thats why. She said she will take post cycle for me. Then i will also take post post cycle therapy ones also.

Today i noticed no differences. I am only at 5+ lbs. I am thinking it casue i uped my calls a bit. Then cleaned them up. I do see size improvement though.

I am currently searching for an "old" more reliable superdrol.
I have DX3 and Methylvol in a cart right now.

The weight is up though in lifts. I havent went to big bench, squat, dead yet.

The plan rihgt now is to go through post cycle therapy. Clen. Then basics for awhile(creatine, preWO boost, nighttime supp.) Then go back on to either Hdrol or another superdrol clone.

I know this log isnt crazy detailed but my next one will be.

Thanks everyone. Take care.

EDIT: Conpemplating goin to 30 3rd week. decide by wed. Also, i know this is a noob question but if i see no gyno signs, no ball shutdown, libido issues or anything. Do i really need Torem? I bought alot(i have anxiety and OCD issue kind of) but now im thinking i will never use any of it.
yes i would use the tor. no physical signs of shutdown doesn't mean anything.
 
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yes i would use the tor. no physical signs of shutdown doesn't mean anything.
yea. ill use it. got plenty any way
 



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there will be some shutdown + lowering of testosterone even if you dont feel it much, and the serm will help make sure that the massive estrogen conversion that will go on as the test levels start to swing up don't cause gyno
 




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