Critique my AX Pheraplex Plan
- 10-23-2007, 02:04 PM
Critique my AX Pheraplex Plan
Ok fellas, just started my cycle support preload yesterday. Start date is in 2 weeks.
Pheraplex 20-40mg for 3-5 weeks
Cycle Support 2 scoops
E-form ramp to about 80mg/day starting day 10
*I have taurine on hand in case pumps show up
*I have plenty of cissus in case of joint issues
*RPM in case of lethargy
Cotinue Cycle support until the tub runs out and then switch to random "support" supplements that I have in my stash for liver, BP, etc
SERM: Torem (per protocol)
AI: Formestane ramped inversely to torem then tapered for 2 additional weeks
Test Booster: Activate
Cort Control: Lean Extreme
Bulk: Creatine Mono and Arginine
*I also have epi on hand and will consider a mini-bridge if things get too wet and sloppy.
Diet will be 300/300/60, super stict and adjusted as necessary for a lean bulk. I'd like to gain 6-8 pounds and drop 1-2% fat.
Let the suggestions fly!
- 10-23-2007, 02:09 PM
looks good to me.
only question is on formestane. In PCT you mention tapering inversely to torem, but you are using it while on cycle. So are you going to stop it with last day of cycle, and start a ramp up from 0 the following day?
10-23-2007, 02:13 PM
I'll keep it at a low dose (around 80mg) and then RAMP up until week 4 post cycle (my sweet spot is around 160ish although others like it around 200). Then I'll taper it back down for 2 weeks because I have OCD like that
Btw, kudos to Dr. D for confirming my form plan a LOOOONG time ago on the IBE forum.
10-23-2007, 02:43 PM
wait till 10 day's into pct to start activate, add some powerful to pct for possible prolactin issues. ok, let the good times roll, a celc log is on the road. good luck buddy.
10-23-2007, 02:48 PM
You know I like my ladies so the potential for a libido boost could be an added bonus. BigT, any thoughts on dosage and new vs. old powerful? ...vs. bulk powerful? I have some extra caps lying around that COULD be used for powerful or in case my torem is too nasty for my chinchilla or hampster or rat or whatever
10-23-2007, 04:55 PM
Looks good celc, you've got it all planned out to a t.
As for the Powerfull, bulk I've taken 2gr/day and noticed some really good libido boost from it(if thats what your looking to get out of it). Can't really comment on none of the capped products as I've yet to get rolling on them.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
10-23-2007, 06:10 PM
10-23-2007, 07:03 PM
Oh my gawd Form in PCT!!!! Lol, just kiddin bro. Cycle looks good.
As far as powerful you could use it as a preventive measure however if your having problems I sure wouldnt count on it to stop you from lactating.
For myself personally it makes me extremely lethargic during the day...
10-23-2007, 07:37 PM
I'm just considering all suggestions including the powerful, but welcome all input at this point. Lethargy kicked my a$$ in the first 2 weeks of post cycle my first time around. So that COULD be a big issue for me
10-23-2007, 07:39 PM
you know, although powerfull's GH releasing is lowered by an insulin spike, i'm not sure if its counter-prolactin effect is affected. if not, taking some carbs with the powerfull would stop the sleepiness
10-24-2007, 12:21 AM
Looks damn good bro! I love the way u plan and research the **** out of something. Mad props lol. I can't wait til u start it.
10-24-2007, 09:07 AM
10-24-2007, 10:02 AM
plan looks good.
I agree, at least 10days of SERM only should be used before adding other stuff.
If lethargy comes with using powerfull you can still just use it before bed, thats what i do.
10-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Anyway, conerning the divanil, I've read some discussion about how increasing free test COULD theoretically affect restoration of hpta. It was described as sort of "extending the cycle." I see the logic but doubt any supression.
10-24-2007, 01:17 PM
10-24-2007, 06:30 PM
10-26-2007, 12:24 AM
10-26-2007, 02:15 AM
10-26-2007, 09:04 AM
i dont think divaniil pct would be detrimental, it just seems like a waste to use a free-t booster when t-levels are low. seems like a better idea to get t-levels up and then add the divaniil. something else to think about, reset ad has been touted for pct. the reset is suppossed to regulate hormones, but imo that seems like it would be better post pct.
10-26-2007, 10:33 AM
UNC, there was an old thread on DA a while back where he and Dr. D were discussing some things about divanil in post cycle. If I remember correctly, I think the thread ended up shifting toward cortisol with some good info. I'm not sure if either of their stances on divanil have changed since then.
BigT, I'm not really familiar with ResetAD at all. Maybe I'll have to do some searches to catch up on that one
12-25-2007, 06:26 PM
12-25-2007, 08:25 PM
12-26-2007, 01:16 AM
Since you haven't started i will throw my 2 cents worth in.
First I have run 20 mgs of PP with 1 ATD and my balls basically didn't shrink. With that much formestane you can expect similar effect. I quit doing this because pushing estrogen down too low lowers HDL and white blood cell count. It is also hard on joints. I got away with it. Dim,IC2 and reservol may be better ideas for test boosting on cycle. I assume you are doing it for bloat control though.
Waiting 10 days sounds like advice for Nolva, not Toremifene.
4 days for Toremifene, but you may still be producing a lot testosterone on day 1.
Divanil/needle root is a little suppressive. You can get double free test at the cost of 30% of total test. No reason to not use, just run AI for 4 days after you stop needle root.
12-27-2007, 12:10 PM
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