Thoughts on summer PH/PS cycles
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05-12-2007 08:46 PM
Registered User
Thoughts on summer PH/PS cycles
How does it look?
SD WK 1-3 10/20/20
4AD Trans WK 1-2
Life Support WK 1-3
Taurine WK 1-3
IGF-1 3x/week
PCT WK 4-7
Life Support
ATD
Novla
DHEA
Retain
Fenugreek
Forskolin
IGF-1 3x/week
WK 8-11
Cissus
Turk
IGF-1 3x/week
WK 12-15
S1+
M5AA (Pre Workout)
IGF-1 3x/week
WK 16-19
Life Support
ATD
Novla
DHEA
Retain
Fenugreek
IGF-1 3x/week
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05-12-2007 08:53 PM
She thinks my traps'rrrr sexy!
I dig it. 
What are your stats? Goals for the cycle (summer)?
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05-13-2007 07:15 AM
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6'3" 210-215 10%BF Bulking
I haven't used PH for 4 years, wanted to stay away and see how far I could go natty. I am an ecto and this weight is very hard to hold, 4 years ago I got up to 230 with 1AD+4AD but it was gone in six months, I just can't hold that weight. I will be starting this in July and I am getting everything straight especially the IGF (mixing, injecting, reconstituting) I am a visual learner so its hard reading words and putting this into practice. I will be running IGF for 1 month prior and for a total of 5 months.
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07-15-2007 03:58 PM
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How should I split up my SD dose's or should they all be taken at once?
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07-15-2007 04:00 PM
PES Rep
Originally Posted by
b_delgros
How should I split up my superdrol dose's or should they all be taken at once?
Try to space them out evenly and eat them with a meal that has a decent amount of fats.
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07-16-2007 04:27 PM
Registered User
Thanks Rodja
Also, this SD is the original that came out in December of 2004, it has been in the freezer in one of those vaccum sealed bags ever since I got it. Should it still be potent or should i pitch it and get a SD clone, or dose it need to be dosed higher?
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07-16-2007 05:57 PM
Oldtimer
u should be just fine. dont get a clone more likely to get sides with a clone. i talked with Dr. D on superdrol he said u can kep it open next to a toilet for three years and be ok he said the sunlight is what kills it
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07-25-2007 07:43 AM
Registered User
Starting my cycle next week, forgot to ask when to dose the 4AD?
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07-30-2007 08:15 AM
Registered User
Starting my SD 4AD today. For the previous month I have been running IGF-1, Pro-Anabol, LJ 50:1. My diet has been off from March until June and I did drop some pounds. I didn't workout for the month of May because I was away training for my new job and did have the luxuries needed for bodybuilding gym, food. Here were my stats at the beginning of June and now
June 3rd July 29th
6'3" 6'3" (I didn't grow any)
203 214
10% BF 13% BF
For June and July I was using a 3 day a week workout Chest, Back, and Legs. Heavy weight 4-6 reps, Low Volume no more than 9 Sets a workout. Here is my diet that I have been using and will be using throughout this cycle.
Meal 1
4 Whole Eggs
1 cup Oatmeal
1 Banana
1 Tbsp Flax Oil
1 Cup Skim Milk
Meal 2
2 Cup Skim
1 Wheat Bagel
1 Scoop WPC
Meal 3
8oz Beef
2 Cup Oats or Brown Rice
1 Cup Broccoli
Meal 4
2 Cup Skim
1 Wheat Bagel
1 Scoop WPC
1 Apple
Meal 5
8oz Chicken
1 Large Sweet Potato
1 Cup Broccoli
Meal 6
2 Cups Skim
1 Scoop Micellar Casein, MPI blend
1 Tbsp Flax
1 Tbsp Peanut Butter
If I don't have exactly those meal they are replaced with a high calorie, protein, carb meal. Somedays I swap meal 4 with a solid meal which in turn has more calories.
On fitday.com my calories are 4700, 113g of fat, 507g of carbs, 360g of protein, that is with all the added ingredients in cooking like olive oil, etc...
Here are my progress pics. These were weekly photos. These are all cold pictures taken first thing in the morning.
My other supplements include
Prolab Creatine
Eco Green Multi
Vit C
Vit E
ZMA
Dairy Digest
Super Enzymes
8 Billion Acidophilus
Xtend
My new routine will be a 5 day a week, high volume, medium rep range 10-12
M-Shoulder
T-Back
W-OFF
TH-Chest
F-Arms
Sat-Legs
Sun-OFF
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08-06-2007 09:56 AM
Registered User
First week down, haven't got that big of a strength increase but workout intesity has definately gone up. I took my weight this morning and couldn't believe I am at 219. According to my scale I am at 14.2%BF, my scale also measures percentage of water weight and I started at 58% and now I am at 60%. I can't get a photo this week my camera is busted.
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08-20-2007 08:31 AM
Registered User
My digital camera broke so I photo's ain't happening. Last week I was at 223 and this week I finished my cycle and ended at 225. My bodyfat scale says I am at 13.5% water weight is at 58%. Here are my measurements when I started and now.
6/12/2006
Waist 33.5-34.5
Chest 41-47
Shoulder 49-54
Neck 17-18.5
Bicep Left 16-18
Bicep Right 16-18
Quad Left 9" up from knee 24-25.5
Quad Right 24-25.5
Calve Left 15-17
Calve Right 15.5-17.25
Weight 202-225
Body Fat 10.5-13.5
Water Weight 57.3-58%
I really didn't get any stronger, I still have severe back pain and it keeps me from deadlifting and I can squat over 275 but during the course of the cycle I only used 225, it really kills my back. However, I and do lunges with 205 for 12 reps, it is not as hard on my back as squating. I will not start post cycle therapy here is what it will look like as far as supplementing.
wk1: ATD 25mg/d, DHEA 200mg/d, Retain 750mg/d, FEN 3 caps
wk2: ATD 50mg/d, DHEA 150mg/d, Retain 750mg/d, FEN 4 caps
wk3: ATD 50mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Retain 500mg/d, FEN 5 caps
wk4: ATD 75mg/d, DHEA 100mg/d, Retain 500mg/d, FEN 6 caps
toremifene 120/90/60/30
Life Support 4 caps/ED
I will cut down my training to 4 days a week heavy weight low reps, short workouts 30-45min max. I going to use TUT really concentrating on slow negatives.
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