[charger71]

Well it starts today, first week is tst only for 3 days then one day of tst 10mg/phera 10mg then starting phera 20mg/tst 10mg.

week 1: phera 20mg/tst 12mg
week 2: phera 20mg/tst 10mg
week 3: phera 30mg/tst 10mg
week 4: phera 10mg/epistane 20mg
week 5: epistane 40mg
week 6: epistane 40mg
week 7: epistane 20mg

support supps:NOW liver detoxifeir/regenterator, milk thistle, fish oil, celery seed, hawthore berry, vitamin C, multi vitamin, prostate support.

post cycle therapy:clomid 200mgx2 days, 100mgx2 days, 50mg til end
nolva 20mg ed
alpha drive

will end cycle IF i get sick, start losing hair, get too lethargic.

weight: 189

[charger71]

day 1: 10mg tst....bench up 40 pounds....haha jk todays a rest day, no noticable change. im not gonna update every day, probabely every 3-4 days or whenever i have a good gym day.

[jerz912]

Good Luck!! Have You Used Phera Before??

[charger71]

i havnt used any of these compounds before, but ive used superdrol and ergomax and phera is suppose to be a cleaner version of ergomax. im hopin to lean down a lot and put on 5-10 pounds, well see how it goes.

[fritzer]

7 weeks of methyls. 7 weeks of androgenic as hell methyls... hmmm haha i will be curious to see how this pans out. People might be seeing their reflection on your head

[charger71]

Originally Posted by fritzer

7 weeks of methyls. 7 weeks of androgenic as hell methyls... hmmm haha i will be curious to see how this pans out. People might be seeing their reflection on your head

so you really think this will effect my hairline that badly? superdrol and ergo did nothing to my hairline, trn did.

[fritzer]

jut watch it. i have done phera and have no history of MPB but got some shedding on ym last pheraplex cycle at 30mg a day on the fourth week. You'll be ok, if it gets bad just stop and split it into two 4 week cycles. phera/tst and epi

[charger71]

thats one thing that scares the hell out of me, my dad went bald young and im in no hurry to lose any hair. what ph's arnt androgenic? i guess i should probabely figure this out now before i buy anything else, low androgenic ph's from now on! haha

[quigs]

Not too bad, but I'd rather see you do something like this:

week 1: phera 20mg/tst 10mg
week 2: phera 20mg/tst 12mg
week 3: phera 30mg/tst 12mg
week 4: phera 10mg/epistane 20mg
week 5: epistane 30mg
week 6: epistane 40mg
week 7: epistane 40mg

Not too sure why you're starting with a high dose and tapering down. This really isn't needed as long as a good PCT follows. Also, IMO its always better to start out on the low end with dosages and work up to assess your tolerance to sides. Good luck!

[fritzer]

well epi is not supposed to be that androgenic but some notice shedding. Just take it one day at a time. Or hey, look up pulse cycling. It is where you dose orals only 3-4x a week and get way less side effects. you do 2weeks on 2 off. This stops shutdown a lot as well.

Im sure someone has a link to Dr. D's thread

[charger71]

ive read about pulsing, it looks good but i dont quite trust it yet. im just gonna give this stack a try and stop early if i notice any shedding. third day on tst and starting pp today, doing chest tonight so ill post back if anything interesting happens.

[charger71]

already getting great pumps, weight is up 2 pounds...although im just coming off a diet and my appetite is insane right now so thats probabely fat/water. strength isnt up yet but i wouldnt expect it to be after 4 days. libido is actually down some which i didnt expect, but so far its not low enough to be of concern.

fyi im taking .5mg of letro every other day, that could be why im libido is lower.

[charger71]

well after 4 days off due to the worlds most epic sunburn im finally back in the gym tonight, stopping tst tomorrow because the headaches are getting too bad. tst/phera is the only thing thats given me head aches, must be affecting my blood preasure a lot.

[charger71]

definitely noticing some water retention now, especially in my chest....which i hate. i stopped the letro because it was killing my libido so hopefully i wont have any gyno issues before i start epistane, and epistane will dry me out more...i hope.

[poopypants]

gyno from phera???? are you VERY prone to it? SD is the only thing to aggrivate/cause my gyno, i start getting itchy nips by the end of the first week, either way i wouldnt worry much, Epi will destroy/stop anything from progressing gyno wise and will def dry you out more while still doing a good job building muscle cause of its est blocking effects. i got clean gains off it.

looks like a fun cycle gl.

[charger71]

im not getting gyno, i think im just really sensitive to hormones. bad ass mass did the same thing to my chest, it just looks soft like im retaining water. superdrol gave me gyno, im getting no pain or hard lumps from phera. i cant wait to start epistane! maybe ill finally get rid of some of this poofy/soft chest that ive had since puberty.

btw i stopped tst 2 days early and the headaches went away. these were the worst headaches ive ever had, kind of regret buying 4 bottles of tst now

[poopypants]

no i didnt think you were getting it, i jsut wouldnt think you WOULD get it from phera is what i was getting at UNLESS you are very prone, as for the Epi... DUDE you are gonna love what it will do for your chest.... check my log a couple pages from the last for progression pics, the link is in my AVI.