epistane and bad ass mass cycle?
- 02-08-2007, 02:30 AM
- 02-09-2007, 02:49 PM
It would seem that the best thing to do would be to take that into PCT by the looks of it. Don't know too much about the product but since it says it stimulates LH/FSH and free's up bound test, thats what I would do with it .
What dosages you wanting to run Epistane at?
- 02-09-2007, 03:06 PM
Yeah, I agree with LakeMountD. I think BAM and Restore would make for a killer pct when coming off of any cycle.RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
02-09-2007, 03:44 PM
02-09-2007, 04:04 PM
02-09-2007, 04:06 PM
02-09-2007, 04:26 PM
02-09-2007, 05:03 PM
02-09-2007, 05:49 PM
Here's what AlR had to say:
Originally Posted by Author L. Rea
02-09-2007, 07:34 PM
02-09-2007, 09:03 PM
02-09-2007, 09:40 PM
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02-09-2007, 10:11 PM
02-09-2007, 10:43 PM
02-09-2007, 10:49 PM
Yeah brother, you could run the B.A.M. solo, then hit up the Epi, then use the Mass Fx that I know you have waiting in the wings for post cycle therapy (maybe in conjunction with a SERM).
Somehow I think this is not your style though, and I foresee some kind of storm brewing with EPI and TREN.
02-09-2007, 10:51 PM
02-10-2007, 10:44 PM
02-10-2007, 10:48 PM
02-11-2007, 02:28 AM
1) Epi is NOT a supplement. It is a steroid.
2) Tren, from what I hear, is best done with Test. I'm starting a cycle with Havoc (same compound as Epi) in a few weeks, so I am not sure if it is strong enough to counteract the infamous Tren-d*ck.
3) BAM is a definite no. I would not recommend BAM during or post cycle, and it appears that neither would ALR.
02-12-2007, 10:07 PM
i have some trans 4AD left from a old cycle.
would it be worth it to finsh it up with the epi and bam?
02-13-2007, 01:50 PM
02-13-2007, 11:10 PM
02-14-2007, 08:07 AM
Yeah, according to all of the posts/links above BAM should not be taken in post cycle therapy nor with an AI. It sounds like BAM should be used on it's own after PCT or before a cycle (a dry cycle might be desirable as it sounds like BAM might be a little wet).
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
02-14-2007, 10:35 AM
02-17-2007, 01:46 AM
so i think im going to roll right into a tren/test cycle at the end of the EPI with no break. i know my body can hang with that and from what i hear BAM and EPI are not that bad on the liver so........... why not right?!
02-17-2007, 01:57 AM
Because you might be looking at one hell of a pct due to the boys getting shut down...I would only do one cycle and save the other for later...more isn't always better!
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
02-17-2007, 02:06 AM
02-17-2007, 02:18 AM
02-17-2007, 12:42 PM
You could do Mass Fx and nolva for 4 weeks if you really don't wanna come "off". That should hold you over and give you your androgen fix.
Though after talking to Dr. D I'm not sure if you need a SERM with Mass Fx.
I'll get back to you...
02-17-2007, 12:46 PM
I'm telling you PCT is different with this stuff. But if he stacks it with 4-ad that could be a different story.
02-17-2007, 01:37 PM
i have not started the 4AD yet. i would def hold off on that if it would make my post cycyle shorter. i could prob give it to my buddy SS to help with his poor little wrist HAHAHA
02-17-2007, 02:06 PM
Well if you run a PCT similar to mine I don't see why you wouldn't be able to run a 2 weeker.
The one nice thing, though, about running Epistane with 4-ad is you can get the gyno protection from aromatisation.
Can't wait to follow your log rep'd! Run a log at IBE Forums if you get a chance.
02-17-2007, 02:14 PM
02-17-2007, 02:18 PM
But yes I am not saying a 2 weeker will suffice for everyone but I have horrible genetics and I recovered fine, just putting that out there. Probably due to the serm-like qualities of Epistane.
02-17-2007, 02:24 PM
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