epistane and bad ass mass cycle?

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  1. epistane and bad ass mass cycle?


    would they run good together?


  2. It would seem that the best thing to do would be to take that into PCT by the looks of it. Don't know too much about the product but since it says it stimulates LH/FSH and free's up bound test, thats what I would do with it .

    What dosages you wanting to run Epistane at?
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  3. Yeah, I agree with LakeMountD. I think BAM and Restore would make for a killer pct when coming off of any cycle.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  4. Quote Originally Posted by LakeMountD View Post
    It would seem that the best thing to do would be to take that into post cycle therapy by the looks of it. Don't know too much about the product but since it says it stimulates LH/FSH and free's up bound test, thats what I would do with it .

    What dosages you wanting to run Epistane at?
    There's another thread on her saying that BAM is not a good thing to take post cycle due to the fact that it raises estro and negatively effect HPTA.

    HPTA inhibition with BAM? Did I hear Author right? - Anabolic Beast Forums

    Spirotanes in BAM cause HPTA inhibition??
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  5. i was going t o run 30mged of epistane
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  6. As a side question: What about running something like dicana with this as a re-comp?

  7. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    There's another thread on her saying that BAM is not a good thing to take post cycle due to the fact that it raises estro and negatively effect HPTA.

    HPTA inhibition with BAM? Did I hear Author right? - Anabolic Beast Forums

    Spirotanes in BAM cause HPTA inhibition??
    Hmm...that's interesting, thanks. I'm wondering if the same would apply for Mass FX then?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  8. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Hmm...that's interesting, thanks. I'm wondering if the same would apply for Mass FX then?
    I am more curious to see if the rise in estrogen is due to the rise in testosterone. Maybe an AI will help that.

  9. Here's what AlR had to say:
    Quote Originally Posted by Author L. Rea
    BAM has a 4-Spirosten that does cause a mild but effective increase in estrogen. Naturally this is intended as it is a synergist for support of a true pro-anabolic environ. Is it enough to cause HPTA suppression? Yes, but to a far lessor and more normal level, not excessive...and more importantly FAR less than would allow it to be among the group of products that would REQUIRE post cycle therapy. The suppression just is not that significant. It could be used as a bridge between suppressive products, which is what Max was likely referring to. But as an optimal PCT product Restore is better designed for this task. Make sense?
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Here's what AlR had to say:
    Interesting, definitely need to look more into the substance. I have been doing so much research on my end for our products that I haven't had a chance to look at anyone else's lol.

  11. epi
    20mg ed x 2 weeks 30mg ed x 1 week 40mg ed x 1 week
    bam
    will start on the 3rd week.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    epi
    20mg ed x 2 weeks 30mg ed x 1 week 40mg ed x 1 week
    bam
    will start on the 3rd week.
    Just thinking out loud, but I think it might be interesting to run BAM first, and Epi right afterwards, possibly having the two overlap for a week. It's a little eccentric, but then again so am I. My rationale being 1) the increase in estro from BAM is (from what I've read) necessary for BAM's anabolic effects. 2). Epi would combat this estrogen. 3). 6-8 weeks of highly anabolic environment is (in my opinion at least) better than 4 weeks of an even higher anabolic environment. 4) Stacking is an overly exercised and often unnecessary practice (see Thesinners 1st Law of Thermodynamics stack for an in-depth look to this philosophy)
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  13. I was thinking the exact same thing!
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  14. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    I was thinking the exact same thing!
    This in fantastic. Either I'm not crazy, or you're crazy too.
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  15. Yeah brother, you could run the B.A.M. solo, then hit up the Epi, then use the Mass Fx that I know you have waiting in the wings for post cycle therapy (maybe in conjunction with a SERM).

    Somehow I think this is not your style though, and I foresee some kind of storm brewing with EPI and TREN.

  16. And it was 20mg/1week 30mg/2weeks/ 40mg/1week.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by supersoldier View Post
    And it was 20mg/1week 30mg/2weeks/ 40mg/1week.
    eyy eyy sir!

  18. ill def do that then. its my first time doing these kinds of sups. im going to do another tern cycle after this. would either one go good with tren?

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    Just thinking out loud, but I think it might be interesting to run BAM first, and Epi right afterwards, possibly having the two overlap for a week. It's a little eccentric, but then again so am I. My rationale being 1) the increase in estro from BAM is (from what I've read) necessary for BAM's anabolic effects. 2). Epi would combat this estrogen. 3). 6-8 weeks of highly anabolic environment is (in my opinion at least) better than 4 weeks of an even higher anabolic environment. 4) Stacking is an overly exercised and often unnecessary practice (see Thesinners 1st Law of Thermodynamics stack for an in-depth look to this philosophy)

  19. 1) Epi is NOT a supplement. It is a steroid.

    2) Tren, from what I hear, is best done with Test. I'm starting a cycle with Havoc (same compound as Epi) in a few weeks, so I am not sure if it is strong enough to counteract the infamous Tren-d*ck.

    3) BAM is a definite no. I would not recommend BAM during or post cycle, and it appears that neither would ALR.
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  20. i have some trans 4AD left from a old cycle.
    would it be worth it to finsh it up with the epi and bam?

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Chad View Post
    i have some trans 4AD left from a old cycle.
    would it be worth it to finsh it up with the epi and bam?
    4AD with Epi, BAM after.

    Or you could just give the 4AD to a good friend!

  22. ok so now i should do the BAM last?
    i thought you said do it first
    also do i take BAM with food?

  23. Yeah, according to all of the posts/links above BAM should not be taken in post cycle therapy nor with an AI. It sounds like BAM should be used on it's own after PCT or before a cycle (a dry cycle might be desirable as it sounds like BAM might be a little wet).
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  24. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Yeah, according to all of the posts/links above BAM should not be taken in post cycle therapy nor with an AI. It sounds like BAM should be used on it's own after post cycle therapy or before a cycle (a dry cycle might be desirable as it sounds like BAM might be a little wet).
    ok then so ill bang out this bottle of BAM and then move into the EPI and 4AD

  25. so i think im going to roll right into a tren/test cycle at the end of the EPI with no break. i know my body can hang with that and from what i hear BAM and EPI are not that bad on the liver so........... why not right?!
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