Last week of cycle.... HELP!

  1. E-BOLLER
    Supa Freek 420's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    434
    Rep Power
    364
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    77.92%

    Last week of cycle.... HELP!


    Hey what up e'erybody?!?

    I'm on the last week of my four week cycle of T-1, and have gained five pounds thus far. I was hoping for a little bit more due to the increased 1T from T-1 compared to Tren-X, in which a three week cycle netted me 10 pounds. My cals are way up compared to my previous T-X and 1AD cycles as well, so I don't think it's due to a lack of cals. I don't exactly count, but I know I get at least 1500 cals from my three smaller meals, and at least an additional 2000 from my main meals.

    Now I'm on the last week of my T-1 cycle. I want to maximize the gains this week, and not have to extend my cycle to see more gains. The only change I've made is training style. On previous cycles I was training HIT style, which in reality is pretty much my year-round training regimen. On this cycle I jumped into GVT hoping that the increased volume would equate to increased gains. I'm hoping that I'm not minimizing gains by overtraining, as I experience greater DOMS with GVT even with the addition of T-1. I do look a bit leaner though, so maybe that's throwing me off.

    Now, I would just like to hear what all y'all think. Should I jump back to HIT, continue with GVT, or go way back and work on a more traditional FLEX Mag-type routine for my last week?

    Thanx for any feedback.

  2. Homebrew Help, Inc.
    curt2go's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,630
    Rep Power
    963
    Level
    27
    Lv. Percent
    92.72%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Has you BF been going down when you are gaining this weight. If so then you are actually gianing more lean mass then you think.. About the training someone will help.... TAlk to ya..
  3. E-BOLLER
    Supa Freek 420's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    434
    Rep Power
    364
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    77.92%

    I do look a bit leaner than when I started, but not that much leaner. I'll have to take a BMI to find out.
    •   
       

  4. Senior Member
    sage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,606
    Rep Power
    956
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    49.93%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    personally, ive always gotten better result with GVT style lifts rather than HIT. (this is on or off cycle) but thats all up to the individual and how the body reacts to the rep/set/volume scheme. Im thinking along curts line where you probably gained more lean mass, lowering bf% some, and with that being said, that 5 lbs alot more than you think. (sorry i didnt really give you an answer as far as what style you should train this last week)
  5. New Member
    Kay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    175
    Rep Power
    233
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    2.59%

    well i dont know, and this is just a suggestion ...
    usually , more maximum growth a usualy moth is panned out as such --
    Wk 1 = Build1
    Wk2 = Build2
    Wk3 == Crash
    Wk4 = recovery

    I notice the most gains in my recovery week, i usually take the 4th week as active recovery, toning down the frequency, coause most of the training adaptaion (i.e.) weight gain takes place during this phase of active rest.
    Its the first 3 weeks, where you consuequetively increase training volume as your progress, where you actually work hard.

    The rest is essential for growth to occur, if you keep training week in and week out, its very hard to grow and your are not letting your body recover and actually grow.
  6. E-BOLLER
    Supa Freek 420's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    434
    Rep Power
    364
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    77.92%

    Hey thanks all for the feedback. Kay, I was so entrenched in my lack of gains on the scale that I forgot about the recovery period. Thanks for reminding me bout that. With that in mind, I think this week I will go back to HIT, only with two working sets instead of one. That and I can incorporate 20 rep squat sets back in.

    Sage, I'm the exact opposite here. I see better gains with HIT. I guess it's the recovery factor.
  7. E-BOLLER
    Supa Freek 420's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    434
    Rep Power
    364
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    77.92%

    OK, I've noticed something strange with my T-1 gel. I may be thinking a little too much into this but lately I've been noticing a lot more grains in my pumps, which I did not notice much of the past few weeks. I'm wondering if it's possible that I did not get that much PH/PS into my system because of this? I shook vigorously about 200x prior to each application, but am wondering if the past few weeks if maybe I wasn't getting much into my system because it was remaining in the bottle?

    Is it supposed to be grainy? I thought it would be in solution.
  8. Homebrew Help, Inc.
    curt2go's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,630
    Rep Power
    963
    Level
    27
    Lv. Percent
    92.72%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Warm it in hot water for abotu 10min before you apply if you can. Sounds like some has precipitated out.... Heat it and it will be fine.. Talk to ya..
  9. Senior Member
    sage's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    33
    Posts
    1,606
    Rep Power
    956
    Level
    33
    Lv. Percent
    49.93%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    i've also experienced the grainy mix of T-1 when my bottle was nearing its end. but exactly what curt2go said, i put it under hot water for 5 minutes and the transdermal was more mixed
  10. E-BOLLER
    Supa Freek 420's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    38
    Posts
    434
    Rep Power
    364
    Level
    18
    Lv. Percent
    77.92%

    Yeah, I used to heat it, but it never really got hot even when added to boiling water. Didn't even feel really warm. Just the bottle and some of the solution on the outsides. Still felt cold when applied.

    The other thing is that when I heated it, it seemed that the solution was runnier and I was getting less of it per pump than when not heated. Maybe another reason?
  11. New Member
    Rhinoman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Age
    48
    Posts
    158
    Rep Power
    13839
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    91.58%

    Originally posted by curt2go
    Warm it in hot water for abotu 10min before you apply if you can. Sounds like some has precipitated out.... Heat it and it will be fine.. Talk to ya..
     

    Hey Curt, what about filtering?  Any feedback!
  12. New Member
    Kay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    175
    Rep Power
    233
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    2.59%

    i understand the part about it being runnier, but it should mix better after you heat it. I heat it before i apply in the sink, and i notice that the avant labs stuff especially become much more constant and less chunkier.
    The one that i got from curt2go is completely mixed in and I don't feel the need to heat that!
    The avant labs stuff needs to be shaken considerably before application and heated, but it does smell better
  13. Homebrew Help, Inc.
    curt2go's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    39
    Posts
    1,630
    Rep Power
    963
    Level
    27
    Lv. Percent
    92.72%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    No No. DOn't filter it. The grit is ph... And thats what you want....... Just heat it, it will be better... And Kay BDC uses a bit differne tformula than me. He has some d-limonene in it which gives it that lemony smell. I am thinking about adding it tom mine for the smell.... But yes mine is very clear and does not need to be heated before application... NO GRIT... But keep in mind that the t1-pro has more ph in it than yours Kay.. Talk to ya...
  14. New Member
    Rhinoman's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Age
    48
    Posts
    158
    Rep Power
    13839
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    91.58%

    Originally posted by curt2go
    No No. DOn't filter it. The grit is ph... And thats what you want....... Just heat it, it will be better... And Kay BDC uses a bit differne tformula than me. He has some d-limonene in it which gives it that lemony smell. I am thinking about adding it tom mine for the smell.... But yes mine is very clear and does not need to be heated before application... NO GRIT... But keep in mind that the t1-pro has more ph in it than yours Kay.. Talk to ya...
     

    Thanks for the feedback!
  15. New Member
    Monte Cristo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    30
    Rep Power
    162
    Level
    5
    Lv. Percent
    52.07%

    To: Supa Freek 420

    I noticed when I first began to use T1, I
    set the bottle standing straight up in the
    pan of hot water. This did not heat the
    T1 very well with hot water, even when I
    left it in the pan for 10 min.

    Later, I tried laying the whole bottle on its side in the hot water for 10 min. and this worked a lot better. As much of the bottle as possible should be submerged in the hot water. Of course, shake the bottle well when you take it out of the hot water. The solution felt
    warm when applied and was not very gritty.

    I am using T1, from BDC. It is a thick lotion with a lemon smell.
  16. Brewing Anabolic Minds
    Chemo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    2,022
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    29
    Lv. Percent
    27.27%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    hhmmm...I didn't take the lower volume when considering actual amount of PH to put into solution.  What may be happening is that as the volume is lowered the i-prop is evaporating thereby leaving less to hold the PH in solution.  It is no secret that the bottles of T-1 Pro are at the absolute limit of solubility and a small change in alcohol content will shift how much remains in solution.  I thought that the 10% DMSO would help with solvation but this may not be the case.

    Most likely, the grit that is felt will be be 4-AD and not the 1-test but this is an assumption unless you send it back to me for lab confirmation.  Keep in mind though that only a small amount of powder will precipitate out (relative to how much went in).

    Chemo
  17. Elite Member
    ManBeast's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  XXX lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    32
    Posts
    6,515
    Rep Power
    48651
    Level
    54
    Lv. Percent
    23.82%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    If one is noticing this grit, could they put more I-prop and/or DMSO in to help with the solvation of the prohormones?

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
  18. Brewing Anabolic Minds
    Chemo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    2,022
    Rep Power
    0
    Level
    29
    Lv. Percent
    27.27%
    Achievements Posting Pro

    Originally posted by ManBeast
    If one is noticing this grit, could they put more I-prop and/or DMSO in to help with the solvation of the prohormones?

    ManBeast
    This may be of value but will be hard to gauge volume remaining and hence proper amount of i-prop to add.  If one could "guesstimate" a volume then another 5% i-prop should do the trick (and lots of shaking).

    Chemo
  19. Elite Member
    ManBeast's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  XXX lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    32
    Posts
    6,515
    Rep Power
    48651
    Level
    54
    Lv. Percent
    23.82%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Would one encounter any significant problems if they added too much I-prop/DMSO?

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*
  20. The True Warrior is one who conquers oneself
    hamper19's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  191 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Age
    35
    Posts
    1,471
    Rep Power
    882
    Level
    32
    Lv. Percent
    30.56%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    mine is gritty also if used cold.

     

    My suggestion is apply after a hot shower or bath.  HEat the T1 AND take a hot shower.  You should see much better results, I did.

     ALso, for my next project, I am going to add another 10% DMSO to the mix.  I think it would only be a few mg less per ml..maybe 5 or something.  I didnt figure this out but its just a guess

     

    h19
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Lowering dosage last week of cycle?
    By antbrusca in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-19-2013, 07:46 PM
  2. Well....last 2 weeks of cycle...time to prepare for PCT
    By drumm3r9 in forum Post Cycle Therapy
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-06-2010, 01:50 PM
  3. Gyno in last week of H-drol cycle
    By datnewnew in forum Post Cycle Therapy
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 05-10-2010, 05:40 AM
  4. Start Formex Last Week of Cycle?
    By nevergoodenough in forum Celtic Labs
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 08-06-2009, 12:02 AM
  5. Running Nolva last week of PH cycle
    By KD1 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 09-29-2005, 04:44 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in