my ongoing cycyle results with 1ad w/1,4andro
06-02-2003 09:10 PM
damn bro, sorry to hear it. hopefully they'll increase more over the remainder of ur cycle.
is ur 1, 4 a diol or dione? im guessing diol, correct?
06-02-2003 09:59 PM
its a diol, its boldione from molecular... this has been bumming me out pretty bad!!
06-02-2003 10:21 PM
Boldione is a dione. Its all good anyway.
06-06-2003 09:32 AM
ok its day 19 and im about to go to the gym. i am up to 183 so i have the big 4 lb gain. unreal!!!! so disappointed. i feel like the money got wasted. i do feel fuller and strength is coming up but i dont feel anywhere near what a transdermal does.
this is quite a learning experience and it only makes me want to start my homebrew a little sooner. i now look at my desk with all my supplies and im excited to mix up a wicked brew for the 2nd part of my cycle. hopefully i will see the results im use to.....
im runnin behind on the pics, family came in from out of town so that has been taking up most of my time. i will try this week though.
by the way the diet has gotten a little worse, havent had time to do all the ccokin i have been. plus working alot of doubles at work so time has been limited.
take it easy bro's
06-06-2003 04:23 PM
IMHO, a 4 pound lean mass gain in less than 3 weeks is pretty good - especially since you're not a beginner. Keep in mind that certain PHs (like 4-AD) cause you to retain water which appears as weight gain but is not true mass gain. 1-AD is claimed to not retain water.
I used a 600mg/day cycle of 1-AD about a year and a half ago. My "cycle" was too long at about 8 weeks total (the first couple weeks at 300mg/day). But in that time I gained about 18 pounds (15 of it stayed on) and my squat went up nearly 100 pounds!
You mentioned something about being hungry? 1-AD made me eat like a teenager (I'm 40). Don't fight it - it's your body trying to grow - just avoid junk food as always. Take a cutting cycle afterwords if needed.
I've recently started experimenting with homebrew transdermals mainly because I want similar results with less substance (and cost!) and, hopefully, less strain on the liver/kidneys. So far it seems to work.
06-07-2003 11:54 PM
yea i hear ya on the lack of time to prepare meals, and so forth GG. lately its been getting the best of me as well. if ur out though, and need a meal quick-like, i always order 2 or 3 grilled chicken breast sandwiches from either Wendy's or BK.
their pretty clean and with (2) of them, u get: Pro- 54g's, Carb- 70g's, Fats- i think like 16 or so? (these are the Wendy's ones btw)
like $6 for 2. plus, i order them with just chix and bun.
06-10-2003 01:45 PM
its day 23 and i have gained about 6lbs now. still rather disappointed in the gains compared to transdermals.
people have been noticing the gains and my weights have definitely gone up.
im at about 185 right now. sooooooooo far away from the 200lbs id love to be. it seems like the gains are just starting as far as strength goes and now im almost at the end of the first part of the cycle.
would i be ok to run it out another week and make it a 5 week cycle? what kind of time would i have to take off between the next part of the cycle.
i know one thing for sure ill either be using a homebrew or ill buy some t1 for the next part, i wont care about the excess water weight then. my parties will be over that im trying to get ready for.
it was funny i took off my shirt last night and my gf said dam i hadnt realized you had gained so much. i guess im just not seeing it. plus its only 6 lbs.
take it easy guys
06-10-2003 02:01 PM
I always notice that I am my biggest critic. 6 pounds, especially if lean is alot of muscle. And IMO, I would say if you want to take the extra week, go ahead, just take 5 weeks off before your next cycle.
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