9 day Superdrol cycle
- 05-20-2006, 04:22 PM
- 05-23-2006, 08:37 AM
Originally Posted by jmh80
05-26-2006, 03:12 AM
There is a fairly large thread regarding this already (superdrol mini cycles). Dr D and others all showed an interest and thought it was a good idea at the time (2 wk on / 2 wk off, repeat 3 times then full post cycle therapy). some looked at 3/2/3/2 as well..
05-26-2006, 03:28 AM
Although I am not experienced with Superdrol, I can attest to the fact that longer cycles are more easily maintainable, gains-wise. It would stand to reason that your body would become more accustomed to the added mass over this time, opposed to the yo-yo gains and losses that many see on these shorties.
My friend and mentor Chaos turned me on to the 100 day rule, and I ran with it. I maintain MUCH more on cycles of 100 days or over in length.. ( I prefer longer than 100 days, but that's beside the point) Of course this applies to nice friendly oil based AAS.. not those crazy pills you whippersnappers are popping left and right.
I agree with Idunk.. most definitely. This is a good discussion... That being said, I see no harm in shorties.. little burst/pulse-like cycles.. with some gains maintained.... earning a sum collective at the end after a few of them in succession... but I am much more convinced that LONGER injectable cycles will net you the best rewards. (not to mention easier on your system provided you take the appropriate measures)
05-30-2006, 11:52 AM
Since we are on the topic of short SD cycles, has anyone ever experimented with this idea to maintain gains and maximize workouts after a full PCT?
Has anyone tried taking 10mg of superdrol on workout days only? Or possibly only 2 days a week on your big workout days.
The idea would be to get the pump for a good workout as well as the temporary increased protein synthesis for the large post workout meal. Then the superdrol would slowly be eliminated from the body as you recover from the workout and in theory not cause shutdown.
Has anyone ever tried this method of supplementation to gain or preserve lbm? You could use all the classic test boosters along side this method since ideally it wouldn't cause shutdown of the HPTA.
05-31-2006, 01:16 PM
I think SD's ability to rat-pack glycogen is it's best feature. That being sdaid, I dont think I noticed a weight increase due to storrage until around maybe day 3.
IF that were to be done, maybe you could do Mon-Wed taking SD, and the rest off. Get your larger workouts donr first.
HOwever, I do not think that it will be productive though. Long term, maybe.
I was looking forward to tring that, or the "mini" cycles, but it would appear that I just dont respond the same as I first did. I used to have the feeling of being pumped, shoulders ready to explode, but I cant get that anymore it seems.
05-31-2006, 06:35 PM
06-01-2006, 04:53 PM
My brother ran a 10 day cycle. He was gonna go 21 days, but he felt like ass the last 5 days and didn't want to finish it.
Start Weight: 148lb 5.4% bf
End Weight: 157lb 4.7% bf
End Weight after pct: 156lb 4.6% bf
End Weight 2 weeks after pct: 157lb 5.0% bf
Cycle: 20mg ED for 10 days
PCT: 50mg clomid/20mg nolva ED for 10 days
Food: ~250gm protein, ~400gm carbs, ~40gm fat
Supps: Multi Vitamin, nothing else
Weight: All weighed on a calibrated scale
BF: 3 tests averaged, taken with a bioimpedance monitor
Result: 9.2 lb of muslce gain, .2lb of fat loss
It's been a month or so since he finished pct and he's 158lb and his strength is still way up, its actually higher now than at the end of his cycle.
If I do a cycle, i'm going to limit it to two weeks. I'd rather stick myself for 10 weeks with a 18guage then play chicken with my organs.
06-01-2006, 04:59 PM
Well your brother should consider himself lucky that he didnt go through the whole cycle.
First off, he's only 20 years old. A big no no!! There's a good chance if he would have done the entire cycle, that he would have messed up his endocrine system. Only a multi? Another dumb mistake.
Also, 158? unless he's 5'2, then he could have easily increased his mass very easily with just proper diet and training. So when he started his cycle he only weighed 149lbs???? Definitely could have gained a ton more weight naturally.
Go up to your bro, and say, "thanks for being an idiot, now I know what not to do."
06-01-2006, 05:56 PM
I have no choice but to run a short cycle of SD anything longer and it kicks me in the butt.Not to hijack but someone hit on a point I had been thinking about should you adjust your training during PCT??
06-01-2006, 06:00 PM
I wouldnt adjust it too much, but you might wanna consider decreasing your volume. Keep sessions a bit shorter, as cortisol tends to eat away at muscle during post cycle (supplementing can only do so much). In my experience, during post cycle, I usually tend to take a few more days off than on, and its worked pretty good for me.Originally Posted by ELTORONEGRO
06-01-2006, 11:00 PM
He's 5' 8". He has veins in his abs, one on his right lat, ALL over his arms/shoulders, on his quads/calves, and a couple big nasty ones on his chest. I've got a pic, when I find my cable to download it to my pc I'll post it... He honestly does too much cardio to hold a lot of weight, he plays a lot of basketball and swims quite a bit. To me he should have never taken it to start with, no matter what height, because everything he likes to do requires quickness and endurance, not power and size.Originally Posted by idunk42
I just wanted to chime in because he did a 10 day cycle, and regardless of weight/age, it worked well.
06-01-2006, 11:04 PM
Actually age is very important when dealing with these chemicals. I dont think you understand the problems that they can cause if you take them before your endocrine system is fully developed.Originally Posted by ifbod
I dont give a sh1t about the veins he has on his body, he was in no means ready for this steroid. 149lbs isnt crap! He could have easily gained those 9lbs in a month or less doing it naturally.
06-05-2006, 08:34 PM
06-05-2006, 08:35 PM
So basically your asking if someone has jumped right back on cycle after PCT??Originally Posted by Anubis 3611
06-05-2006, 11:16 PM
9 pounds of muscle in a month, naturally? Yeah right. You mean 4 pounds of muscle and 5 pounds of fat in a month. No way anyone is gonna gain 9# of muscle that fast without steroids, let alone gain it "easily".Originally Posted by idunk42
06-05-2006, 11:54 PM
I read your response to my other posts. Thanks. I will go with the 12 weeks off.Originally Posted by idunk42
06-06-2006, 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by lifthardheavy
Well actucally if you do that math at his size his daily calorie expenditure is probally around 3000k so if he ate 4000-4500 calories a day that would be 2-3lbs a week do it for a month and that's 8-12lbs as long as the calories are clean say 2 cups of lean steak and 1 cup of chicken breasts each day and there you go add some creatine or nos maybe a test booster and ai and yeah he could easily gain 9lbs in a month. Of course if he was 200lb guy then he would need way more calories. but at 149lbs yeah it would be pretty easy just take some discipline in diet.
06-07-2006, 06:41 AM
dude, just because he eats a 1500 calorie surplus doesn't mean it translates to 2-3 pounds of muscle per week. The body does not build muscle that fast without steroids. He would likely gain 1 pound of LBM and 2 pounds of fat. If his goal is to become a fat ass, then this advice is fine. After a year he would be 140 pounds heavier, of which 120 is fat. Or do you think all 140 would be muscle???Originally Posted by mixedup
When I trained naturally, I ate 900 surplus CLEAN calories and gained 2 pounds per week. Guess what, half of that was fat.
06-07-2006, 09:36 AM
No ofcourse not no one is going to keep gaining at that rate. But my advice was based on his stats age and training level At his height 5ft 8in and a starting weight of 148lbs with the fact that he ws a beginner at weight training. All figures into my caclculations. As I said if he was heavier this would not work. IF he had been training for sometime this would not work either. But as we all know beginners gain easily . I also said he should add in other non hormonal substances creatine nos a test booster. It also depends on his body type ecto endo eso. Everyone is different he's started at under 5.5% body fat so I doubt his body is going to store alot of fat.Originally Posted by lifthardheavy
06-22-2006, 07:48 PM
so apart from all the banter about will it work or won't it work.. is anyone actually doing this 9 day cycle thing?
07-14-2006, 06:23 PM
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