FYI: Superdrol Cycle Log

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  1. FYI: Superdrol Cycle Log


    I have never done such a cycle before but decided it was time to try it out. I have done the research on it and will lay it out exactly how I am doing it. I am already a week into it but I will fill you in on the past week as I have kept my own logs. I decided to proceed as follows

    1 1/2 Weeks prior to cycle and will continue all of these throughout:

    Quit Binge drinking
    - Taking following supplements:
    Taurine
    Red Yeast Rice
    Hawthorne Berry
    Milk Thistle
    Multi Vitamin, B Complex, C, E, Multi-Mineral
    Fish Oil Caps

    Cycle Info:
    Week 1: 10 Mg SD
    Week 2-4: 20 Mg SD - 10 in the morning, 10 hour before workout

    PCT:
    Rebound XT (75, 50, 25, 25)
    Reduce XT

    all other sups from above:

    Workout Schedule:

    Powerlifting(Heavy, Light, Medium Day routine):
    Abs will be worked every day if feel up to it.

    Monday (Heavy Day):
    Bench - 5x5 with 1 to 2 backoffs of 8. Rotate with 5x3 and 2x3 or 5x3 and 2x2 every week.
    Squat - 5x5
    Power Clean/Deadlift: Rotate every other week. 5x5 for cleans. 5x5 or 4x8 for deadlift
    Hammer Curls - 2x20

    Tuesday (Light Day):
    Snatch - 2x5 and 3 to 4 sets of 3. Work until form breaks.
    Standing Military Press - 5x5 and 1x8 backoff
    Chin ups- 4 sets to failure. Increase total reps by at least one every week
    Calf Raises - 3x30

    Wednesday (Light Day):
    Squat - 5x5 (only up to 50lbs less than max weight on monday)
    Good Mornings - 4x8 (try to get up to half max squat)
    Incline bench - 5x5
    Weighted Dips - 1x8 (no weight) (rest weighted) 1x8 1x5 1x3 Try to work over +100lbs.

    Friday (Medium Day):
    Squat: 3x5 2x3 (triples should be +10lb that mondays last set)
    Bench: 4x8
    close grip smith bench: 4x8
    Power Shrug: 5x6 1 to 2 sets x 8 backoffs
    Beach Stuff: Hit anything you feel necessary, tris, bis, maybe more chins. don't over do it

    Stats from day one:
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 176
    Age: 26
    Bf: 12.5%

    Diet:
    All clean, lots of brown rice, wheat pasta, Oats, chicken, tuna, turkey and shakes. Using On Whey. Not much red meat.

    Ratio is 40/40/20
    Trying to maintain 3500+ calories a day. Hard to do with all clean foods. using fitday to track it all.

    Will follow up with week one summary. The rest of the log will go day by day.


  2. You need a SERM for your PCT. Either Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) or Clomid.

    I just posed my 5wk PP/SD cycle. Nolva is def manditory, especially on recovering from something as suppressive as SD.

    If you choose Nolva, make sure you shop around. Allot of the online pharm's are pretty expensive.

    Good luck!
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  3. So I wanted to write this log because I have not seen anyone go into real detail on their training regiment while on SD. I also have not seen anyone do a power routine while on it so I decided to try my routine and see what kind of results it will give.

    Ok, On Day 9:

    Sides:
    Starting to feel these pumps people were talking about. Nothing new to me though, had the same problems during rehab when I injured my lower back from hockey in college. Kind of use to it. Will increase Taurine though, should help. Also have been a little more tired but in a good way, it hits at night, not during the day. Its making me get to bed on time and getting my 8 hours of sleep a night.

    NOTE: I did go out the past weekend. Only had 4-5 beers on saturday night, not enough to get near drunk. no problems. People might lecture me on this and I do not advise drinking but I know the risks and I did it anyway. I am not an example. If you have better will power than me, stay away from the booze.

    Diet Stats from fitday for past 3 weeks:
    Average Calories 3276
    Fat: 74 21%
    Carbs: 354 39%
    Protein: 296 37%
    Alcohol: 10 2%


    Starting Weights for week 1:
    Monday: got 225x4 for last set of bench. backoff 185
    squat 225x5 (could probably do more but easing into it, just got off hockey season and need to get my lower back strengthened)
    Cleans: 155x5

    Tuesday: 140x5 for shoulder press. 125x3 for snatch Chins around 24 total reps

    Wed:
    Good morning was 125x8
    Incline was 185x5
    Dips at +75lbs for 3

    Friday:
    Tripled 245 for squat
    205x8 bench. doubled 235 missed a 245 double
    Shrug - 405x6


    Week 2 weights so far:
    Tripled 250x3 on bench
    Squat: 245 x 5 easy
    Military 145x5
    Snatch: 145x3

    Stats after 10 days:
    Weight: 184.5 lbs
    BF: 13.4%

    Definite noticable increase coming in strength. Can't tell about the weight increase too much except in the arms.
    More to come as the days progress.

  4. You need a SERM for your PCT. Either Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) or Clomid.

    I just posed my 5wk PP/SD cycle. Nolva is def manditory, especially on recovering from something as suppressive as SD.

    If you choose Nolva, make sure you shop around. Allot of the online pharm's are pretty expensive.

    Good luck!
    I have read up on getting Nolva for PCT but read others logs on SD and seen they have had success without it. I have followed Quickryde's log and may follow his route without Nolva. Hd, along with some others did not have any problems running just Rebound and Reduce.

  5. Follow up. Today was Day 10: Light Day
    Weight: 185
    BF: 13.5%

    Got 225x2 on incline bench today
    also got 3 reps with +105 on weighted dips.
    135x8 on good mornings

    strength is cruising but felt a little sore in the shoulders. Probably just the joints and ligaments trying to keep up with the weight. Nothing unbearable and is fading away. Had some back pumps but was working the lower back, nothing bad at all.
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  6. You can run a pct without a serm, but 90% of the members here would tell you to pct with a serm. Even the AX reps reccomend taking a serm even though their company makes otc pct products.

    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...l-dummies.html

    quote from krza AX Board Sponsor
    "Is 6oxo and Rebound XT good enough by itself for a superdrol PCT, most people say it is enough
    No! By no means is 6oxo or Rebound standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. You need a SERM! Period! "

    their are plenty of board sponsors here providing serms at good prices, I suggest you look into one.

    If you choose not to go with the serm, good luck anyways

  7. Weight:185
    BF: 13.5%

    Day 12: Medium Day
    Not a bad day at all, decided to push some stuff a little.
    Got 215x8 on bench for last set. Doubled 245. went for 265 and only hit 1 rep.

    Got 275x3 for squat.
    Shrugs were 405x6 for last set. I need to up these next week.
    Last, just threw in some beach stuff, nothing of importance.

  8. Start of week 3.

    Weight: 184 (Dropped a pound, I attribute that to this past weekend which was my birthday weekend. Sleep pattern wqas not that great and food intake suffered)
    BF: 13.5%

    Background: Well, there were a few drinks over this past saturday on the weekend. I tried my best to keep it to a very minimum but a lot of shots were bought for my birthday plus I was working this girl and she was buying also, so there was no way I was going to turn her down in risk of looking like a p*ssy. I was a little worried about my monday but it turned out pretty good. I broke diet on sunday. I felt that overall calories would be more important for ratios so I ate whatever the hell I wanted yesterday which included lots of chicken and pizza and whatever else I was able to get my hands on. I think it worked out for the one day.

    Day 13: Heavy Day
    Bench - went to 5x5 again. Got 235x5 for my last set.
    Squat - 275x5 no belt. Abs and lower back felt good and strong. went up fairly well.
    Cleans - 185x3 for last set. hit 170x5 for 4th set. These felt really good, looking to improve more next week.

    Overall: strength is still flying up although weight may of faultered a little. I'm not too worried though. I am back on track for eating today, should hit around 4k calories. Seems like everything is going as planned.

  9. Day 2 of Week 3:
    Weight: 186.5
    BF: 13.5%

    Background: Had a good day of eating yesterday. Hit around 3800 calories. Definitly Felt good this morning and as odd as it sounds, felt heavier. Sure enough, weighed in at 2.5 lbs heavier from yesterday. Seems like the gains are really starting to pick up now.

    Workout (Light Day):
    Military Press: Did 2x5 and 4x3. Got up to 155 for 3. Tried for 165 but failed. Shoulder joints felt real sore. Definitly Having some problems with ligaments and tendons keeping up in strength. Hopefully this will eventually correct itself.
    Snatch: I usually do these first but had to do them second today. Definitly Suffered. I had to prematurly stop these and did Snatch Grip High Pulls Instead. Worked up to 175 lbs for sets of 3. Not the best but shoulders were bothering me
    Chins: 28 Reps total. 10,8,5,5. 2 Rep improvement from last week.

    Overall: about 10.5 lbs increase from start. Big increase in strength. No sides to complain about. Going to keep dose at 20mg.

  10. Keep a good diet throughout your SD cycle and you'll see strength gains out of this world... Just focus on eating, and the rest will come when you get into the gym! Might wanna pick up some Cissus b/c you'll probably have pretty harsh joint pain if your shoulder joints are already sore.

  11. I would have to agree about diet. I have been keeping it real clean and High Calories at 40/40/20. I can tell the difference in days where I didn't get quite enough calories the day before but that has only happened twice. I look forward to seeing my weight every day!
    About Cissus, I never heard of it. Is it something you can pick up anywhere and what kind of dosage would I be looking at. Also, I take 5g of taurine a day which helps in the gym but I do have Hockey once a week for now and the back pumps during the game are severly hindering my ability out there. Could I take more taurine that day beofre the game or would that be too much, anyone know?

  12. Day 3 of Week 3:

    Weight: 188.25 (Up almost 2 lbs from yesterday)
    BF: 13.5% (Have to check this to make sure)

    Background: Starting to really feel good. I can feel the weight starting to pack on. I have never been so excited to hit the weights and then eat as much food as possible right after. All the work with the diet and such seems to be paying off.

    Sides: Small Back pumps. And if I could only lighten up the pain in the shoulder joints. Its starting to really bother me in my lifts. Starting to worry me about potential injuries. Need to research this Cissus stuff more that someone mentioned.

    Workout (Light Day):
    Squat: light day - only worked up to 225x5
    Good Mornings: These felt really good. Worked up to 140x8 for my last set. These will definitly be going up
    Incline Bench: 190x5 and 210x5 for last set. These felt pretty good. Shoulders started to bother me here though
    Weighted Dips: These felt great and will definitly be improved. Got +85lbs for 5 and +115lbs for 3 clean reps. These can definitly be increased.
    Military Press: Did 2x5 and 4x3. Got up to 155 for 3. Tried for 165 but failed. Shoulder joints felt real sore. Definitly Having some problems with ligaments and tendons keeping up in strength. Hopefully this will eventually correct itself.
    Snatch: I usually do these first but had to do them second today. Definitly Suffered. I had to prematurly stop these and did Snatch Grip High Pulls Instead. Worked up to 175 lbs for sets of 3. Not the best but shoulders were bothering me
    Chins: 28 Reps total. 10,8,5,5. 2 Rep improvement from last week.
    Tri's: Did some beach stuff, nothing noteworthy, just a couple sets of 20.

    Overall: about 12 lbs increase in body weight from start. I have a feeling these last 2 weeks is where I'll be seeing the biggest gains. Stay tuned.

  13. Day 4 of Week 3:

    Weight: 190
    BF: 14%

    Background: Still feel great. Seems like my body has adjusted more to SD. Still going to keep the dose at 20mg throughout and will do the 4th week. Gains are still flying

    Sides: Back pumps. Taurine and banana's only do so much. Its bearable though. Lethargy just a tad bit but I like it, I get better sleep at night.

    Workout(Medium Day):
    Squat: Worked up to 295 triple but it went up so easy I put on 315 after and got that for a triple without using a belt. Backoff with 245x8. I will shoot for 315x5 on monday. Great strength increase on this lift.
    Bench: Hit 225x8 for last set. Went for doubles but was completely spent. Didn't get anything.
    Close Grip Bench: Three sets of 8. Worked up to 165.
    Weighted chins: +10lbs. Hit 3 sets of 7 reps.

    Overall: Weight and strength still increasing. We'll see how monday goes for the last week.

  14. Day 1 of Week 4:

    Weight: 189 (Down a pound, happens from the weekends)
    BF: 14%

    Background: A little worried today. Eating habits suffer over the weekend, plus with easter and all. Drank a little over the weekend but avoided getting drunk. Sleep suffered. Up till 4am both nights with this girl. got only like 5-6 hours of sleep each night. Caught up last night though, got around 9. I ate pretty much whatever I wanted over the past two days. Calories might of been a little under but I feel I got enough in.

    Sides: Back pumps. Getting better though. I pretty much think my body is adjusting to the SD. I even forgot my taurine today

    Workout(Heavy Day):
    Squat: Very good. Got to 315x5 for my last set and backed off with 255x8. 315 was a little tough and the last rep went up a little slow but I still got it.
    Bench: Did triples this week. Got 225,245,260 for sets of 3. Not bad. For the set of 260, last one was real struggle and needed a tap on the bar to lock it out. should get it clean next week.
    Deads: Not bad. worked up to 335x5 for my last set. Went up pretty clean. Haven't done this weight for a while, so I had to adjust to it a little. should be better with heavier weights from here.

    Overall: Still moving up and my eating is back on track. A lot easier to do when I have to be up early.

    Last day of SD will be this friday.
    PCT Will start on Saturday.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by peterson24
    Day 1 of Week 4:

    Weight: 189 (Down a pound, happens from the weekends)
    BF: 14%

    Background: A little worried today. Eating habits suffer over the weekend, plus with easter and all. Drank a little over the weekend but avoided getting drunk. Sleep suffered. Up till 4am both nights with this girl. got only like 5-6 hours of sleep each night. Caught up last night though, got around 9. I ate pretty much whatever I wanted over the past two days. Calories might of been a little under but I feel I got enough in.

    Sides: Back pumps. Getting better though. I pretty much think my body is adjusting to the SD. I even forgot my taurine today

    Workout(Heavy Day):
    Squat: Very good. Got to 315x5 for my last set and backed off with 255x8. 315 was a little tough and the last rep went up a little slow but I still got it.
    Bench: Did triples this week. Got 225,245,260 for sets of 3. Not bad. For the set of 260, last one was real struggle and needed a tap on the bar to lock it out. should get it clean next week.
    Deads: Not bad. worked up to 335x5 for my last set. Went up pretty clean. Haven't done this weight for a while, so I had to adjust to it a little. should be better with heavier weights from here.

    Overall: Still moving up and my eating is back on track. A lot easier to do when I have to be up early.

    Last day of SD will be this friday.
    PCT Will start on Saturday.
    Ouch. Your liver must be begging for mercy.

  16. I am willing to bet that my time in college put more stress on my liver than what it is going through now.

  17. Man, how can you go another week? The boys must be just about gone, and I can't see the back pumps getting better. I really think 3 wks is plenty, and to be honest I saw most of my strength gains during PCT (Nolva/RXT inverse) btw it took 5 wks for me to feel normal. Your the man, 4-6 wks of PCT is going to blow chunks!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by peterson24
    I am willing to bet that my time in college put more stress on my liver than what it is going through now.

  19. I haven't had any problems whatsoever with libido or anything else. Boys still hanging nice and low. I have been keeping an eye on everything. Everyone elses log I have read have gone 4 weeks. I only have 4 more days left, should be fine. PCT will be 4-5 weeks. As for the back pumps, I have always had a problem with my lower back since college since I got injured in a game, so at times I would get pumps the same as this without being on anything. I was just noting that they are there but not severe enough to stop me from any normal activity or lifts. As I said, I am providing this log for informational purposes so others may make their own informed decisions. What necessarily is working for me, may not work for others.
    As for PCT, we will know how that is going for me in the next couple of weeks, stay tuned.

  20. Good luck, sounds like all is going well for you. Effects all differently that's for sure, the back pumps were killer for me, I could not deadlift wk 2 and 3. The thing that made my cycle worth it was during PCT my strength went through the roof. More power to you man, I was ready to get off after 3 wks!

  21. Thanks Basso. Did you take any other sups during your SD cycle? I preloaded with Taurine and have bananas everyday, So maybe that is the reason for the managable back pumps. Age may also play a role here. Did you record a log for your SD or have a list of everything you took for the cycle?
    I look forward to the PCT. From everywhere I read, It seems as strength and size will continue to increase as long as you keep your diet and cals up. I started this whole thing at 176 and I am probably a little over 190 now. I wouldn't be surprised if I reach around the 200lb mark by then end of this. I have had very little fat increase also so far.
    Through my observations so far, Eating is a big factor in getting the most gains with SD. We'll see how much of this I can keep throughout PCT.

  22. I did a 8 week PP/SD cycle a few months ago and went from 178 to 194.... I hope this winter when I do another cycle I hit 200 lbs....... Good luck!

  23. Day 2 Week 4:
    Weight: 188.25 (Surprised about this, I ate a ton yesterday)
    Bf: 14%

    (Light Day):
    Snatchs: Much better this week. Worked up to 155x3. Form was a lot better.
    Military Press: Very good this week. Went up clean. Worked up to 155x5. The last set wasn't even a struggle, these could of moved up. Backed off at 115x8.
    High Clean Pulls: Worked up to 205x3. This movement is to help your snatch.
    Chins: Worked to 29 total reps. 1 rep increase from last week.
    Calves: 3x30 at 270lbs on standing calf raise.

    Overall: Felt really good and had good energy. Can't understand the drop in weight again with an actual increase in strength. I am not too worried about it but wondering where that extra 2 lbs went that I had friday. Strength is still cruising.

    Sides: None today. Nothing was an issue. My shoulder soreness from last week was even non-existant. I got my 4g's of taurine and didn't have any problems whatsoever. 3 more days and then to PCT. Still bothered by the weight, I ate around 3600 cals yesterday. How can I drop weight?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by peterson24
    Thanks Basso. Did you take any other sups during your SD cycle? I preloaded with Taurine and have bananas everyday, So maybe that is the reason for the managable back pumps. Age may also play a role here. Did you record a log for your SD or have a list of everything you took for the cycle?
    I look forward to the PCT. From everywhere I read, It seems as strength and size will continue to increase as long as you keep your diet and cals up. I started this whole thing at 176 and I am probably a little over 190 now. I wouldn't be surprised if I reach around the 200lb mark by then end of this. I have had very little fat increase also so far.
    Through my observations so far, Eating is a big factor in getting the most gains with SD. We'll see how much of this I can keep throughout PCT.
    Liver and BP support, I ate 2 bananas a day but did not take Taurine! (BTW I have some on order for my next cycle) I did do a log but it's pretty much the same as everyone elses for supps. The only thing I see missing in your list was CoQ10 to stave the effects of the RYR. I did the cycle along with a 27yr old and he had a lot better time then I did. I did 20/20/20 and my PCT was Novla 40/20/20 and RXT 25/50/75/ after a week off I went back on RXT at 25 for 2 weeks. I felt like garbage during the PCT but my strength went up alot (i.e. previous BP PR=405, 2nd week of PCT 405X5,5,4) I really over did it though and pulled some muscles (live and learn). Body weight went from 238 to 256 and during PCT to 248, BF went down about .2 I'm still at 248 3 wks later but my strength is going down some.
    My sides were Back pumps and High BP, I think I'm going to try a low dose mini cycle 10/10 and see what happens, may be interesting and I haven't seen it done. I like the idea of a minimum approach, should beable to close the gap on cycle times also. I also want to lose fat more than gain muscle (can't keep buying new clothes) so low dose with slightly higher than maintence cals may or should work. BTW I ate 5000-6000cals a day for 4 wks then went to 4500 for a wk then 3500(maint) for the remainder(all clean). Man was I sick of eating!

    Good luck on the PCT, most advise to pull back a bit but keep your volume up, I should have listened, now I'm nursing a pulled pec.

  25. Thanks for the info Basso. I believe Taurine will help you out a lot. I preloaded it a week before I started. Also, I do take CoQ10, it is already added into my RYR supplement so I only need 1 pill, not 2.
    As for Cals, I have hit 4k in a day all clean and that is hard. I don't think I can go any higher but then again I was only 180 at that time and my maintenance is around 28-2900. I am having an easier time eating now. Finally getting use to the volume of food I guess.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by peterson24
    As for Cals, I have hit 4k in a day all clean and that is hard. I don't think I can go any higher but then again I was only 180 at that time and my maintenance is around 28-2900. I am having an easier time eating now. Finally getting use to the volume of food I guess.
    I hear ya, if I was eating BK and Wendy's it would be a piece of cake but 4k+ clean is exhausting, I invented a lot of high cal snacks to get by and that helped also drank alot of MRPs. If I didn't get enough cals I would start feeling queasy, upped my carbs alot also.

  27. Day 3 Week 4:
    Weight: 190 (Finally, back to it)
    Bf: 14%

    (Light Day):
    Squat: worked up to 265x5. pretty easy, typical light day
    Good mornings: worked up to 155x8. These were a little tough but I got them. must maintain 50% of squat.
    Incline bench: worked 3x5 and then 3x3. Got 225x3. Went for 240x3 and only hit 2. ran out of gas on this one real quick, kind of strange.
    Weighted Dips: 1x8, 1x8 +35lbs, 1x5 +95lbs, 1x2 +130 lbs. Not too bad, these are increasing
    Rest of the day, did some abs and beach stuff

    Overall: Felt good and had good energy. Pumps were there, almost looking forward to be done SD on friday. At least my weight is back and strength still going up.

    Sides: slight back pumps. Only two more days of SD

  28. Day 4 Week 4:
    Weight: 190 (Leveled off)
    Bf: 14%?? may be a little lower

    (Medium Day):
    Squat: Worked up to 325x3. Before was 285x3. Backed off at 265x8. (These are still moving up)
    Bench: Worked 135x8, 185x8, 205x8, 225x9. Hit doubles at 245x2 and 265x2. The last rep at 265 was real close, needed a tap on the bar.
    Shrugs: worked to 425x5
    Close Grip Bench: Worked up to 175x8 for the last set.
    Some beach work
    Weighted Chins: 2 sets of 5 with +20 lbs. I was tired, I had enough for the day

    Overall: Everything felt real good and keeps moving up. Body weight has stopped but the strength gains are still there. Looking back though, I would of ended my SD cycle last week. It didn't seem there was much benefit to this 4th week for weight gain and my diet was the same. Still feel strong and PCT starts tomorrow. It will be the following

    Rxt 75/50/50/25
    Lxt 3/3/2
    Fenugreek 2/3/4/5
    DHEA 100/50/50
    RYR w coQ10
    Milk Thistle
    Hawthorne Berry

    Its going to be good to get off of SD. I can start to feel the shutdown in my body. If I ever do it again, it will only be at 3 weeks and that won't be for at least until next year.

  29. I'm on a sd cycle now..your log is coming along great. Weird this is I get back pumps to but I still deadlift 2 times min a week. I'm not eatting bananas are anything like that I like my pumps lol. Anyway. You gonna post pix? We could compare gains I guess. Oh well keep up the good work..ohh I ran m tren to cut first 2 weeks then bridges sd in. Later.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by peterson24
    Day 4 Week 4:
    Overall: Everything felt real good and keeps moving up. Body weight has stopped but the strength gains are still there. Looking back though, I would of ended my SD cycle last week. It didn't seem there was much benefit to this 4th week for weight gain and my diet was the same.

    Its going to be good to get off of SD. I can start to feel the shutdown in my body. If I ever do it again, it will only be at 3 weeks and that won't be for at least until next year.
    3 Weeks is good imo, looking at most of the logs the 4th week has diminishing gains, no sense in unnessarry abuse to the bod! Good luck on the PCT, let us know how it goes!
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