Superdrol cycle log (no stack, straight SD)
- 09-18-2005, 11:15 PM
Originally Posted by Wanker527
BUT, it's one I'm happy to add now, since it's easy to get and so harmless, even if it's completely useless.
On my SD cycle, I'm not going massively hypercaloric. I've increased my calories, but not more than about 500-750/day over my previous levels. I know this contrasts with some suggestions that calories must be massively increased, but I'm feeling that that plan would negate my ability to quantitatively analyze SD as a whole, if my gains (in theory) could also simply be attributed to a giant bump in intake. I want my intake higher, to account for the bulk itself, but I don't intend to go hog wild.
Anyway, FYI to all following this little cycle journal.
- 09-19-2005, 08:57 AM
09-19-2005, 02:36 PM
A friend of mine the same age as yourself, just ended a superdrol cycle, he said his appetite went through the roof, I saw him the other day and he was leaner that when he started, he gained 15 lbs in four weeks, it is a fine line when on super if u r not getting enough calories, dont short change yourself, good luck keep us posted...........
09-19-2005, 07:00 PM
I'll keep that in mind.Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
So you know what dosage he was flying with? I did 10mg for the first 5 days, then 20mg through present. Do you know what your buddy found success with? I hear lots of suggestions, but few are from people in our age group, with our slightly more inhibited metabolic rates.
09-19-2005, 11:51 PM
Day 11: 9/19/05
warm ups not listed, but always done.
45^ Hypers: bw x 12, 12
Good Mornings:135 x 8, 185 x 8, 225 x 8, 275 x 8
SLDLs: 135x 15, 225 x 10, 315 x 5
Seated Leg Curls: 3 sets
Standing raise: 100 x 10, 200 x 10, 300 x 10, 400 x 10, 100 x 15,
Evening workout. First SD in early AM, 2nd about 30 minutes before the first rep.
No cardio today. Cooled down, went home to rest.
09-20-2005, 03:59 AM
Great post Zack !
How is your bodyweight/LBM responding to the SD cycle ?
Feeling any bad side efects ?
Keep on the good work !!!
09-20-2005, 10:37 AM
Feel no sides, notice no ill-effects. I also don't feel especially dehydrated, or any effects on my water levels.Originally Posted by Bombas
My BW has increased a tiny bit, but I'm also more hypercaloric than I was pre-cycle, so the weight increase could be attributed directly to that. Not trying to be skeptical of the SD - just pointing out the more likely cause of the weight increase.
LBM might be up a tiny bit. But I'm not weighing myself constantly or doing bf% every day - don't want to get sucked into an infatuation with the numbers. I'll do the cycle, do the diet, and just see where it leaves me.
09-20-2005, 02:47 PM
I saw that friend again yesterday, he started out at 10 mg. for three days, then went to 20 mg. for a total of 4.5 weeks, he gained 18 lbs. not 15,( the bastard) like I stated earlier, the gains r about to really kick in for ya....
09-20-2005, 05:44 PM
Zack,Originally Posted by ZackMurphy
Try takign the SD about an hour or so before you lift. I started doing this about the 2nd week and started seeing huge gains.
When i took it about 30 minutes out, it always seem to kick in about the last 15 minutes of my workout. I switched to about an hour out from my workout and loved it.
Just a suggestion. Good luck with your cycle bud
09-20-2005, 06:53 PM
Good to hear. As a generally lean guy, athletic but ectomorphic, it's tough to add LBM.Originally Posted by RipdnTxs
I did the 10mg for 5 days, and 20mg since then. And I have upped the kcals over my pre-cycle levels. About 250-1000/day. Varies.
Thanks. I will try that. I've been ranging from 10-30 minutes lately (pre-workout SD dose), and feeling good (today especially), but nothing spectacular. I'll try to take it a little earlier.Originally Posted by Warthog
I also tend to work out around noon, so the first 10mg has been in my body for about 4-6 hours by then.
Thanks for the info and support.
09-20-2005, 06:57 PM
warm ups not listed, but always done.
CGBP: 95 x 15, 115 x 10, 135 x 7, 7
Skulls: 55 x 15, 65 x 10, 75 x 10, 85 x 6
Tri Ext.: 100 x 15, 120 x 10, 140 x 12 (these are good numbers for me)
BB Curls: 45 x 15, 65 x 15, 75 x 10, 85 x 6 Also good sets
Preachers: 45 x 15, 65 x 10, 75 x 5
17 sets. A very nice little workout. CGBPs and skulls were good, tricep extensions were solid. Good pumps, which are always fun.
Still going on 20mg/day, plus the boatload of others supps.
09-21-2005, 01:10 AM
those are some pretty good numbers, so far, what is your overall thoughts of SD?Originally Posted by ZackMurphy
09-21-2005, 08:10 AM
Thanks.Originally Posted by SVTMuscle
Too early to tell. I feel I'm on the verge of seeing some SD gains, but not sure yet. We'll see what continues.
09-21-2005, 02:27 PM
warm ups not listed, but always done.
Smith Military Press: 50 x 10, 70 x 8, 70 x 8
Up. Row.: 65 x 15, 85 x 12, 95 x 12
Front Raises (thumbs up): 12.5 x 15, 17.5 x 10, 22.5 x 10, 12
Squats: 135 x 10, 185 x 10, 225 x 10 (went light today)
Standing Raises: 3 x 12-14
Worked out early today, and took the SD about 75 minutes before the first rep. Delts were first, and they felt AMAZING. Not sure if it was the SD, but I can only assume it was. Warthog - thanks for the suggestion.
Went light on legs today. My quads have not been recovering well during the past couple months, so I'm going easy.
09-22-2005, 12:24 PM
09-23-2005, 02:07 AM
I'm thinking of increasing my dosage to 30mg/day because:
1. I'm not feeling any of the diuretic effects of SD, and it's certainly one of the primary indicators of its efficacy. No significant water loss or increased thirst, perhaps I need another 10mg/day to get things moving? No increased appetite, no increased urination or thirst. I've been drinking more, but that is a conscious decision.
2. Not really feeling much else, either. I've been on 20mg/day for 8+ days. Some good workout pumps and some good feels, but the other SD stories, anecdotes and logs are much more dramatic than this. I do feel a little bit of a gain, but... is it the SD or the increased calories? From my experiences with calorie increases of this size, it's hard to say.
What do you all think? I don't want to over-SD or take more than I need, but geez. Where the mad gains at?
09-23-2005, 07:06 AM
Stick it out for another week @ 20mg. My gains were above what I would expect from the amount of additional Kcals to diet taking 20mg/day. Do you take in any nutrition Pre-workout?Originally Posted by ZackMurphy
09-23-2005, 11:02 AM
I always take in something, usually 20-30g protein, 25-50g CHO, minimum or no fats, usually 20-60 minutes pre-wo depending on my schedule. The values vary because it's rarely a shake - almost always real food.Originally Posted by jonny21
And post-wo, something similar, but higher GI. Non-fat again. Then another meal, more substantial, about 2 hours later.
09-23-2005, 12:05 PM
First off, the file is NOT ZIPPED. I just changed the extension. Change it back to .xls to open it. My WinZip is acting up today.
Okay, so here's a sample day. This is not an actual day, so please don't look meal by meal for small corrections. But this is the type of stuff I eat, and the macronutrient ratio is pretty accurate. I probably get a little more fat than this, but not much more. I just don't each much fat, even when I try, and I have to add egg yolks or tacos to increase it. If I eat out (food), it's usually Mexican. (Add your own joke about "eating out Mexicans" here.) Chicken tacos, stuff like that.
My workout time varies, but I shift these kinds of meals around to get the right kinds of foods pre and post-workout. Usually, I work out mid-day, so by then I've had 2-3 meals.
So for the record.
And this is probably pretty close on the kcals.
09-23-2005, 05:20 PM
Just asked about pre-workout cause I didn't see during the rest of thread and I think CHO's are an important macro in SD cycles. Glad to see you include them.Originally Posted by ZackMurphy
I had modest gains on SD on 2 seperate occasions, modest compared to 15-20lbs in 3 weeks I read about. But both cycles have been been with kcals ~300kcals-500kcals above maintenance. I was looking for as lean of gains as possible. 1st was 3 weeks @ 20mg/day. +10lbs at end of week 3, +8lbs 3 weeks later (~14% BF). All increases of measurements remained same. Did ~3 weeks of maintenance Kcals while on Prostanazol 75mg/day, measurements remained stable except for waist -1.5", BF11% using 3 point caliper measurement @ my gym.
Just finished an aborted e-max cycle(poor gains, increased sides) with 3 weeks of SD. again modest but impressive gains which I also expect to keep ~6-8lbs (pretty sure 2 of the 8 was E-max). Focused more on legs, increase 3/4", calves up 1/2". I did no cardio during either. I did mostly low rep(4-8) heavier, compound exercises, but finished body parts with higher rep(15-20) lighter, isolation exercises.
Considering I should have been catabolic with my caloric intake as it was , I am most impressed with SD.
09-23-2005, 10:49 PM
Good info. Good anecdotes.Originally Posted by jonny21
I'm also dropping some cardio now - feeling lean enough to get through the cycle, and I can always up my cardio after PCT, and drop the easy fat.
09-24-2005, 11:28 AM
Day 15: 9/23/05
Incline BB Press: 95 x 15, 115 x 10, 135 x 5
Decline DB Press: 40 x 15, 50 x 10, 60 x 8
Pec Fly: 25 x 15, 35 x 10, 45 x 6
Pec Deck: 70 x 15, 90 x 10, 110 x 5
Extensions: 15, 10, 5
Skulls: bar + 30 x 15, 50 x 10, 60 x 7
10mg early AM, 10mg about 75 minutes pre-workout.
After weights, did 10 minutes cardio to cool down, then home to eat. Took the BCAAs, then a meal.
09-24-2005, 11:34 AM
So far, I feel a slight size gain, but little else. I'll keep going though. My only issue now is whether I should bump myself to 30mg/day.
09-24-2005, 12:13 PM
1) Drop all cardio
2) I think you may be underestimating your complex carb needs while on SD. SD sucks carbs out of my system. Cardio does too. Eat dirty for a day then really up oats, yams, whole wheat bread exc PWO.
3) I love eating a bowl of clam chowder with a miceller shake while on SD as my pre-bed meal.
4)If you aren't gaining weight while "on." Somethings wrong. Even if I was taking bunk hormones I gain weight while on. Restructure your program. SD is da bomb IMO.
Better luck man.
My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
09-24-2005, 04:19 PM
That's probably a good idea, at this point. I'm very active all day (training people), so it's not like I'm sitting on my arse 24/7. Even on off days, like Thursdays, it's an off day because that's my super busy day with clients.Originally Posted by motiv8er
I'll drop the cardio.
Possibly right there, too. I'll add some. Easy enough. I like carbs.Originally Posted by motiv8er
I'm doing CC + nat PB now - same concept.Originally Posted by motiv8er
Solid suggestions. Thanks.Originally Posted by motiv8er
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