1st cycle help

[texas]

hey guys, im new to the board, i have been lifting serious for about 5 years, i have ran 4 PH cycles, i have been reading up and studying on AAS, since i am going to try and run my first cycle, would it be ok to use orals? i dont know about gear yet, but for my first cycle i was wondering what you guys thought

WK
1 dianabol @ 20mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
2 dianabol @ 20mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
3 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 30 mg a day
4 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 30 mg a day
5 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
6 dianabol @ 15mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day

like i said im just thinking about it, if you guys think i should wait a little longer just tell me

 

[Blown]

All-oral cycles generally suck.

 

[texas]

you think i should just stick with PH until i can handel real AAS?

 

[Matthew D]

I think you need to do a ton more research.. and I would say go natural for a while.. see how that is working..

 

[texas]

ok thanks alot for the feedback guys

 

[DR.D]

hey guys, im new to the board, i have been lifting serious for about 5 years, i have ran 4 PH cycles, i have been reading up and studying on AAS, since i am going to try and run my first cycle, would it be ok to use orals? i dont know about gear yet, but for my first cycle i was wondering what you guys thought

WK
1 dianabol @ 20mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
2 dianabol @ 20mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
3 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 30 mg a day
4 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 30 mg a day
5 dianabol @ 30mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day
6 dianabol @ 15mg a day / winstrol @ 20 mg a day

like i said im just thinking about it, if you guys think i should wait a little longer just tell me

I like this combo actually, but you should pyramid orals for sure. Use liver support and remember that Winstrol crushes HDL, so good oils and cholesterol support is required. I would suggest a milder cycle while you're still learning. Maybe like this (depending on your weight):

wk1: 20mg dbol
wk2: 30mg dbol
wk3: 20mg dbol, 20mg winni
wk4: 10mg dbol, 30mg winni
wk5: 40mg winni
wk6: 20mg winni

Matt D had a good suggestion. Go natural as long as possible. Once you take the plunge, use the lowest possible doses for as long as possible. Don't forget to use creatine during the PCT if you wanna hold gains from an oral cycle. Hopefully, we'll have ActivaTe available by then too.

 

[texas]

thanks for the advice Dr. D, i wont run this for a while (year at least), i liked the dosage schedule you posted better,

Hopefully, we'll have ActivaTe available by then too.

is there any word on when its coming out? iv been wondering about it for a while

 

[DR.D]

is there any word on when its coming out? iv been wondering about it for a while

No Sir, not yet. But it is getting closer.

 

[glenihan]

it would be a much better cycle with test .. like this

1-12 test e 500mg week
1-6 dbol 30mg day
10-14 winny 40mg day

and of course with proper PCT

 

[DR.D]

it would be a much better cycle with test .. like this

1-12 test e 500mg week
1-6 dbol 30mg day
10-14 winny 40mg day

and of course with proper PCT

Don't you just love test? It makes everything better. :thumbsup: I'm not sure if Tex has any.

TX, Glen is quite right. Test should be the base of most cycles, if you can get some. DHEA @ 500 mg/d or higher will kind of sub for test in a jam, but test is best. For a first time test user, you may want to get some letro just to play it safe with the dbol stack. 0.25mg EOD will provide good anti-gyno insurance, or even 25mg RXT daily.