Another 8 weeks - this time with e... MAX LMG
08-28-2005 10:37 AM
I just finished 2 weeks (of 3) on E-max, with no noticeable increase in LBM, strength or endurance. No decrease in recovery time. I am sure my expectations are too high, after my previous SD results in May. I am considering stopping the E-max and finishing with 2 weeks of SD. I was going to run Prostanazol, but I am thinking of just starting PCT X 4 weeks after the SD.
Originally Posted by silverSurfer
PCT: Nolva 40,40,20,20; Clomid 100,100,50,50; DHEA 100,100,50,50; Rebound XT 1,2,2,3; Lean Extreme 3 cap/day
Last edited by jonny21; 08-29-2005 at 07:30 AM.
08-28-2005 12:29 PM
That sucks man...I would just go ahead and switch to a 2-3week cycle of superdrol then pct. I'd do that unless you were feeling shut down, but by the sounds of it the emax isnt doing much of anything....
09-02-2005 08:45 AM
SD lethargy has kicked in - a lot more noticeable than e...Max.
09-04-2005 11:36 AM
09-06-2005 01:10 PM
How bad was shutdown on the e...max?
09-06-2005 01:15 PM
09-06-2005 09:53 PM
No idea, I did not get bloodwork mid-cycle. However, judging based on size, which is completely inaccurate, no change.
Originally Posted by handzilla
09-08-2005 01:00 PM
silversurfer, do you always have a hard time gaining weight? SD seemed a little better than the emax for you, but not that much?
handzilla, that's Serge Nubret, isn't it? Talk about the golden days of BBing...
I am currently on e...max, 7th day of 10mg and I already am noticing some shrinkage, although I am on formestane at the same time and I heard that is somewhat suppressive also. Er... Enough hijacking.
09-10-2005 10:58 AM
I don't put on weight as fast as others, but that's ok, I know it takes time.
The root cause is diet discipline. I have to get better at managing my time and making sure I eat.
09-11-2005 10:35 AM
End of week 6
Weight: 180 lbs (on empty)
* +9 lbs from official starting weight; +3 lbs from last week
* face and scalp still a bit oily; scalp is still itchy; still doing AA scalp applications
* body still not as puffy, however bloat became more noticeable in my midsection; started Nolva on Thursday and took my last SD dose on Friday
* I was a little edgy this week and started feeling a little sick, although several family members, friends and co-workers have been passing around some kind of bug so this may not be entirely related to my cycle
* lethargy still noticeable but more manageable the last few days
I'm very happy with my gains thus far!!! I have never been 180 lbs before so this is a big deal to me. I know that I'll probably lose some of this weight during PCT because some of it is water and fat. However, I'm going to continue gradually increasing my daily caloric intake and do my best to maintain as much, if not all, LBM as possible. My main goal is to get beyond 200 lbs this winter then cut a little if needed for definition, etc. and "showcase" the new me next spring/summer. I'm goiong to do my best and attempt to gain the remaining 20 lbs with just food and training
This is the end of my "ON" cycle. I'm officially starting PCT today. Diet will be just as clean as it was while "ON" and will last at least four weeks. PCT will consist of Nolva, RXT, and ZMA. I'm also adding CEE, Taurine, ALCAR, and CM back into my diet as pre and post WO supplements. Lastly, I will continue taking my Ultra 40 liver tablets @ 20 tabs ED.
09-12-2005 11:37 AM
What was yourtraining volume like? I think the best way to keep the muscle when going to PCT is by lowering total volume and if at all possible increasing intensity. But that's just theory; I have searched and found very little about volume/intensity during PCT. So if someone wants to chime in, I think that can be helpful.
09-13-2005 04:07 PM
I'm using Bobo's (FLA Nutrition) deluxe muscle building program.
09-18-2005 10:22 AM
09-22-2005 05:03 PM
that cat is fukkin cool
Originally Posted by tiggermoon
09-22-2005 07:20 PM
09-25-2005 09:13 AM
09-26-2005 02:56 AM
I think most people overestimate Ergomax/E...max. I know I did. After the reports and scarcity of the steroid, I thought it would be much better.
I gained much more with Superdrol, and felt better, too.
I think E...Max kinda sux...but to each his own. I may try an E...Max only cycle for two weeks just to test it.
10-24-2005 09:06 AM
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