Superdrol vs. M1T Back-to-Back Showdown
- 07-30-2005, 10:04 AM
Superdrol vs. M1T Back-to-Back Showdown
With all the comparisons flying around concerning SD vs M1T, I decided to do my own test, using SD and M1T as part of the same mega cycle (with two weeks off in between).
3 previous cycles: M1T/M4OHN, M4OHN, MD
BF: High, probably over 20% but hard to tell since I have loose skin from 200 lb weight loss
Diet: 2500 cals/day (with my slow metabolism, this is actually "bulking" for me), 200 g protein minimum
Training: Ramping Max-OT (increasing the number of sets/bodypart every week) on cycle, 80% of max for 12 reps off cycle to rest the joints
Wk 1: 20 mg SD
Wk 2: 30 mg SD
Wk 3: 30 mg SD + 10 g creatine
Wk 4-5: 50 mg Nolva + 10 g creatine
Wk 6: 20 mg Meso Labs M1T
Wk 7-8: 30 mg Meso Labs M1T (or less depending on sides)
Wk 9-12: PCT
One important note: The M1T I'm using is the original (and only batch) of Meso Labs M1T (cost: $60/bottle), which does contain D-bol (which is why Meso told Legal Gear to get the hell out of their facility).
OK, I am currently at the end of Week 4. My weight is:
Wk 0: Start (212)
Wk 1: 220.25
Wk 2: 220
Wk 3: 219
Wk 4: 219.75
My first observation about SD is that a 3 week cycle is too short. I was still ramping up in strength at the end of 3 weeks. Other observations include:
1. Started noticing strength increases on Day 10
2. Improved strength gains compared to M4OHN & MD
3. Good Pumps - You feel like you are ON something
4. Sides: Slight lethargy the first week, and felt an increased BP (pounding in my head) the last week, and through the first 4-5 days of PCT
5. Not a "feel good: compound like M4OHN
6. No joint relief like M4OHN
7. Positive appearance changes
Will update at least weekly
- 09-10-2005, 02:30 PM
Originally Posted by Skark
09-10-2005, 02:44 PM
Why is he a retard and why do you think this would shut down his liver? It is standard for people to run methyls @ 6+ weeks with no break at all and this guy is taking a 2 week mini PCT in between 3 week cycles. I run methyls @ similar dosing for 6 weeks straight and my liver values have come back fine, no problem with cholesterol either.Originally Posted by BOHICA
09-10-2005, 02:46 PM
m1t is the harshest thing by far you can put in your body, and when your adding at the end of the cycle in which your cholesterol is gonna be screwed up already by SD, then you are just adding insult to injury.
09-10-2005, 02:54 PM
09-10-2005, 03:31 PM
09-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Both M1T and SD have proven to be the most destructive (of recent methyls) on lipids. Either one, individually, run for 3-4 weeks has proven to have this effect. The PCT of HPTA in between cycles is not going to impact the restoration of lipids. You will likely have an elevated LDL and a decreased HDL at the end of 3 weeks of SD. Introducing M1T in that conditions may in all probability destroy what was left of your lipids. This is not to say that it will be permenant, but it is, for the most part a bit unhealthy, and depending on your lipid history, risky. If you are going to be 'testing this out' then get pre-cycle bloodwork, mid-cycle bloodwork and post cycle bloodwork. If you are not getting bloodwork, then you are not really 'testing out' anything, but rather throwing sense and caution to the wind.
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09-10-2005, 03:55 PM
09-10-2005, 05:07 PM
Originally Posted by BOHICA
From the bloodwork I've seen posted SD isn't any less "harsh" on the body than M1t. Have I missed something? Or is this based solely on how people feel while on?
12-26-2008, 01:03 PM
i heard that m1t was the only steroid that was once legal to actually shrink your balls.
i ran superdrol at 50mg for 5 weeks and my balls stayed the same.
12-26-2008, 02:10 PM
Maybe you had bunk Superdrol, or you just have superballs, who knows.
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12-26-2008, 02:19 PM
12-29-2008, 01:51 AM
12-29-2008, 05:29 PM
New To PH Need advice on stack.
I went to max muscle and picked up some AmerCellLabs tren xtreme, and Mass Xtreme. He told me to take 3x tabs day each.
Tren is 30mg tab. Mass is 10mg tab. Anabol EXT add in 20 days for supp.
Does the dosing sound right? What would you add or subtract.
Need to put some extra size and strength.
12-29-2008, 06:06 PM
12-29-2008, 06:30 PM
I think so
mass is 17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2ene-17b-ol 10mg serv size
I think it is pp is I'm not mistaken. Their web site is Americancellularlabs.com The Max Muscle rep said take estoXtreme and anabol EXT for pct. after 20 days. I am doing 4 weeks on weeks off. He also recommended, TT-40 androsta-1-ene-3B-ol,17-one 70mg which I don't know anything about.
12-29-2008, 06:33 PM
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