foo.c's Melting Point log
- 06-29-2005, 10:51 PM
foo.c's Melting Point log
Decided to keep a log of my Melting Point experience.
Age you can see to the left
6'1" 250 lbs
Definitely an endomorph
I'll see if I can get a pic tomorrow. I would like to get down to 220-230.
I've been lifting for 2 years. Started at 265 lbs and probably 30% BF or higher. Cut all the way down to 205 lbs and haven't really been concerned with body fat since the beginning of the year (and it shows), but a fair amount of muscle too. Still an AAS/PH virgin.
My diet will be a two-phased approach. Phase 1 is not a diet. It's the Fourth of July weekend and I plan on eating and drinking a lot. Phase 2 will be a 40/40/20 split starting at 2800 cals and adjusting as needed. I usually have to get below 2500 cals to lose weight so I'm hoping the MP will help in that area.
I do a full body workout 4x/week. 2 light days, a medium day, and a heavy day. No cardio, however a full body workout with short rest periods between sets is practically cardio itself.
Vitamin C, 2 grams
Custom's Fish Oil, 6 caps
Green Tea Extract, 2 caps
Melting Point, 5 caps
Nothing to report. Good workout. Got my Melting Point. Celebrated with some sushi and a couple of beers.
- 06-29-2005, 11:03 PM
Ok. Went ahead and snapped some pics tonight. Keep in mind I'm probably extra bloated with raw fish and Kirin Ichiban.
- 06-30-2005, 12:09 AM
Holy ****. I don't know if it's placebo or what, but I took 1 cap of Melting Point after dinner and I'm sweating my ass off already.
06-30-2005, 05:26 PM
06-30-2005, 08:18 PM
247.5 lbs, -2.5
I won't begin to try and offer up an explanation for that.
I'll take my last dose (5th) for the day in about 45 minutes. I haven't gotten any sweats today. I do feel a little warm though, but nothing major.
07-01-2005, 03:40 AM
I'm not sweating but a lot of people are.Originally Posted by foo.c
Are most people taking this with food?
07-01-2005, 11:11 AM
I've been taking it with meals containing around 10 grams of fat because that's the recommendation for Sesathin, and I figured that since this is a fat and works in some of the same ways it may pay to take them in the same way.
07-01-2005, 12:58 PM
I usually take it with meals. I haven't really noticed a difference either way, but it's only day 2.
Quick morning update since I'll probably not be back on the comp after this evening's workout.
248.5 lbs, -1.5 Not bad for not dieting at all.
I have noticed the warmth more today. I feel it a lot on my upper back and neck.
07-01-2005, 02:18 PM
07-01-2005, 03:16 PM
07-02-2005, 12:21 PM
This is day 3 on Melting Point. Last night I was very bad ... beer, 20 hotwings (drums), beer, appetizers, beer, beer, etc. Hopefully that will cure my desire for anything fried for a long, long time.
252 lbs, +2
Had a good workout before going out though. Friday is my medium day and it went well. I was sweating pretty heavily but that's not unusual. (My gym is like a sauna.)
Also I got some bad news in relation to my log here. I'm going to be out of town on business for the last week of July. I had hoped to run MP for 4 weeks of clean dieting but this trip is going to be right in the middle of it. It's going to be really hard to eat well and excersise during that week. I'm tempted to stop the log now and resume it after the trip.
07-03-2005, 08:09 PM
251.5 lbs, +1.5
My diet is really attrocious right now so I'm not surprised I'm putting on weight.
Well today was my heavy day and despite the fact I haven't been getting enough protein, my weights were all the same or a little higher.
07-04-2005, 02:26 PM
252.5 lbs, +2.5
Ok, I'm now officially sick of crappy food. It's brown rice and chicken after today.
07-05-2005, 11:32 PM
253.5 lbs, +3.5
Haha. This is just getting sad now. Diet was actually pretty clean yesterday.
Anyways, diet was very clean today and training went very well also.
07-06-2005, 12:59 PM
Behold! The awesome power of the MP "uncoupler"
Hope you start to see some results, but I am suspect, to say the least.
07-06-2005, 02:13 PM
Posted a little early so I could reply to BigSwede's post.
252.0 lbs, +2
All things considered, +2 is actually pretty damned good. My diet was not good at all for most of these 7 days.
However, I'm a little skeptical like Swede. One of the claims in the writeup is that a low dose of MP is great for "unclean" bulking without having to worry about bodyfat. My own experience doesn't bear this out, and I'm on 5 caps a day. Also, my fat cells are laughing at the thought of MP "killing" them.
07-06-2005, 05:03 PM
07-07-2005, 09:08 AM
253 lbs, +3
Diet was clean yesterday. Training was normal.
I'm going to give it 2 more weeks before drawing any conclusions.
07-08-2005, 10:15 AM
252.0 lbs, +2
Not sure if this is related to MP or not, but yesterday I felt exhausted and had a hard time staying awake.
Diet was clean yesterday, but I had too many calories overall (closer to maintenance).
I think I'm going up to 6 caps a day starting on Monday.
07-08-2005, 10:19 AM
No flame on you but I don't see how you or many people can think they'll lose weight sitting at maintenance calories or "not dieting at all".
Or am I misunderstanding how you are attempting to use this?
07-08-2005, 10:32 AM
07-08-2005, 10:36 AM
Yeah. I see that now.Originally Posted by foo.c
Seems like a waste of $65 to me to do this half-assed in your first phase.
07-08-2005, 11:27 AM
Meh. It was only 6 days, more like $20, and I think it's worth knowing if this stuff can help keep the fat off while being "unclean". After all, that's one of the uses touted in the writeup.Originally Posted by houseman
Honestly, it was fun, and I needed a break, but it's over now and I am "full-assed" in this phase now. LOL.
07-08-2005, 12:04 PM
How does one distinguish the efficacy of supplements vs. dieting? Foo never said he was going xxx-under maintenance calories. Yeah, a week is nothing, but this stuff was hyped waaaay out of bounds. The DS log of employee testers were talking about significant weight loss w/o dieting under a similar time-frame.
The ideal conditions for determining the efficacy is a maintenance calorie diet.
07-08-2005, 12:08 PM
Maintenance calories with ABSOLUTE consistency.Originally Posted by BigSwede
This has been the problem thus far with logs. Mainly from DS it seems. No absolutely concistency to be able to effectively guage results.
Drinking beer here, drinking beer there. Cake, birthday parties and the list goes on.
I'd like to see someone post up their complete diet plan for each day of the week and be 100% consistent with it and then introduce MP for a time period to gauge the results.
Sorry for the OT Foo.
07-08-2005, 12:11 PM
If he's drinking 5 beers a week, every week, it's still consistent. 6-9 days is nowhere near a statistically-significant period for sure.Originally Posted by houseman
I'll not add any more to limit the clutter as House suggests.
07-08-2005, 05:13 PM
Hey guys appreciate the responses.
I guess I can clutter my own thread though.
This isn't a scientific study. It's some fat dude logging his results. What's written here should be taken with a boulder of salt.
Also, this may sound weird but I'm not really interested in MP if it requires a perfect diet. I can get good results already from a perfect diet.
Having said that, I do want to lose some weight, so if I have to lower calories more or add cardio I will.
07-09-2005, 12:38 PM
250.0 lbs, +0
Woohoo, back to where I started! LOL.
Diet was in check yesterday. Yesterday was my medium day and I actually had to go up in weight a little to keep my rep ranges where I wanted. I had a really good day at work, so maybe I was just in a good mood or something.
I'm going tubing today with some friends, but I am going to do my best to refrain from beer. I'm even brining a couple of chicken breasts for the grill.
07-10-2005, 08:23 AM
07-10-2005, 11:32 AM
249.5 lbs, -0.5
I think the weight loss is probably just dehydration from baking in the sun for 5 hours.
Well, I managed to avoid the beer, but somehow the bottled water I brought never made it into the cooler so it was either drink Coke or die. I suppose I could have drank river water ... blech.
When we got out, nobody wanted to grill so we ended up going out for Mexican food. I was starving so I didn't fight it too much. I ended up getting chicken fajitas but only 1 had tortilla. Not the greatest of meals but not as bad as it could have been.
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