When I Lose Control.....I Like It! Prop/Tren A
08-02-2005 01:44 PM
Beelzebub: Thanks for checkin in bud. I am definitely happy about how the cycle went.
08-02-2005 01:52 PM
August 2, 2005
HS High Row 160x8, 200x8, 240x9, 220x9
HS Low Row 200x8, 240x8, 260x7
Curls 60x9, 55x8, 50x9, 60x6
Lat Pulldown 145x12
Reverse Curls 75x10
Elliptical 50:00, 765 kcals
Happy to say I have lost only a small amount on the Rows and nothing off the curls strengthwise. Looking good in that department so far. Tren may very well be the best strength drug out there if I manage to keep most all of what I have gained.
08-02-2005 01:55 PM
08-04-2005 03:42 PM
August 4, 2005
Squats 135x8, 185x6, 205x6, 225x6, 235x3x5
Deadlifts 225x12, 275x8, 295x8, 275x7
Leg Extensions 2 sets
Abs 3 sets
Still felt pretty strong on squats and deads. Upped calories by about 1000 or so. Don't think I am gaining any fat so probably a good idea.
08-04-2005 03:47 PM
are you used to such large jumps in cals?
08-05-2005 03:18 PM
I sure am. Especially if i think I might be losing weight when I don't really want to for another week or so, I can add 1000 pretty easy. I have been really active this summer. Main thing, I just keep a close eye on my waistline each morning and if it jumps unexpectedly, I back off just a bit. I haven't even counted calories strictly for a good long while and can maintain well if I want to up to 5-6k a day.
08-05-2005 09:56 PM
August 5, 2005
CGBP 135x8, 175x6, 205x5, 225x5, 235x4
Tates 40x8, 55x7, 50x9
Cable Laterals 20x8, 15x2x10
Elliptical 35:00, 525 kcals
Good workout in not a lot of time
08-07-2005 08:45 PM
impressive #'s on the CGBP bro.
08-09-2005 01:36 AM
Is that weight you're dropping in PCT mostly water? It sure looks like a succesful cutter if so.. congrats.
08-14-2005 12:17 PM
Update August 14, 2005
Good news and bad news.
Bad news is I am still losing hair. Therefore I have decided to discontinue the use of nolvadex at this point (short pct I know). I am losing quite a bit fast now, so if dropping the nolva entirely doesn't solve the problem, I am going to go ahead and start taking finasteride even if it causes additional shedding initially (I know probably should already be taking it). Normally by now the hair loss pretty much has stopped but not this time. Could be the time of year as I tend to shed more in summer for awhile and then again in spring.
It looks like the recomp overall went pretty well. I am looking quite lean and still getting comments. I lost about 1/2 inch on my arms from my starting measurement of 17.75", some of which was probably muscle and the rest of which was just fat (I had a lot to lose and still do). Waistline has stayed stable at about 38" throughout pct, just as planned.
Starting Weight: 245-250 lbs
End Weight: 228-233
Weight Loss: 17 lbs
Bodyfat loss: 3.5" off waist
To me those numbers leave a little room for muscle tissue loss, but not a whole bunch considering the weight loss overall.
Tren has worked incredibly well for gaining strength and surprisingly for me, I am still retaining most all of what I got off of tren (I bet what I lost is largely from the Superdrol gains as that has happened to me once before on it). I am still squatting 235x5 for multiple sets, deadlifts are still easy at 315, and CGBP is holding at 235x4. Those numbers aren't that strong but for me I am really happy to retain them for now, especially through pct.
The first couple of weeks were rough on the libido, probably because of the Tren and partly just performance anxiety. Nothing ever quit working however, which is good.
Right now my libido is really strong. In fact I am losing more hair now that my libido is sky high (relatively speaking), so that makes me think it is definitely time to start taking finasteride.
I definitely look softer in the mirror and less vascular, but overall I like the leaner look.
08-14-2005 01:58 PM
great log bro..enjoyed readin it
08-14-2005 04:27 PM
3.5" loss on the waist is great bro. good job.
08-14-2005 10:21 PM
Thanks keith and beelzebub!
Now that I going to be off cycle for quite some time, it gives me some time to reflect on what I have done so far and to weigh the positives and negatives. My two biggest problems right now are a mild case of gyno and significant unexplained hair loss after this cycle. Otherwise I have experienced quite a few side effects from the various AAS/PH/PS I have used, none of which appear to have had a long term negative impact on my health (will get blood work done at some point).
I probably have about 25-30 lbs or more extra muscle tissue than when I started in May '04. I no longer have an eating disorder and seem to have managed a relatively high metabolic rate overall (which means I can eat like I have always wanted to).
All in all, I would have to say it was and is definitely worth it to me to be where I am rather than where I was 15 months ago. I learned a lot more about my body in the past 15 months than I could have in a lot of other ways. Chalk one up for experiential education I guess.
08-14-2005 11:49 PM
sounds good to me bro.
give rebound a try for the gyno. made mine go away in 5 days.
08-15-2005 10:48 AM
I'll think I'll do that. Thanks for the recommendation
11-21-2005 09:28 PM
Great log....I just read through this as I want to do a similar cycle only not as long as yours. How you doing now, you keep most of your gains and still lean?
11-21-2005 10:26 PM
Hey thanks for reading Manu. Glad the log is helpful. I haven't been checking this site regularly nor keeping a journal.
But my weight stabilized at 220-225 lbs. Waist is somewhere around 37". I have had no trouble at all maintaining it. Used no supplements to speak of so far. And it has now been 3+ months since I went off.
The strength gains from the Tren eventually completely left me as far as I can tell. But I could keep them quite awhile after the cycle if I worked at it hard.
The muscle retention is still complete as far as I can tell. Haven't gained or lost anything. Maintenance has been easy for me since I can eat 5000 kcals pretty easily.
I finally stopped losing hair. I think the test and tren were hurting me there. It doesn't look bad at all and I still have a full head of hair. No noticeable balding spots. Just not as thick as it was. Gyno never really went away nor have I taken significant steps to make that happen yet.
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