Syr SD/1,4add Spring Bulking
- 02-04-2005, 07:50 PM
Syr SD/1,4add Spring Bulking
I'm close! To start SD, whaddaya think?
I'm going to run two 2-weekers SD stacked on 1,4 andro-diol all over.
I may eventually go over the 1g of 1,4. I have a good stock and I'm gonna use it for no more than 2 cycles (i will pass to boldenone thereafter ).
Here is the plan:
week 1: 1,4add (1g)
week 2: SD (10mg), 1,4add (1g)
week 3: SD (20mg), 4add (1g)
week 4-5: 1,4add (1g)
week 6-7: SD (20mg) 1,4add (1g)
I will ramp up SD 10mg first 3 days, 15mg rest of the first week and then 20.
week 8-12: Nolva 40/30/20/10/0, 6oxo 0/900/600/300/300
I'm considering also oral Phosphatydil Serine.
Key supplements stack:
The above will be run on cycle and during all PCT.
CEX: I will stop this from week 3 to the end of the cycle and restart on PCT
- 02-04-2005, 08:23 PM
- 02-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally Posted by DmitryWI
I think I will use around 50g of that 1,4
I'm not starting right now. I'm waiting for the forskolin and a few ancillaries i just ordered, including oats powder and my custom night protein blend.
I will update this thread when I start
Good luck with cAMPHIBOLIC, I think its great stuff
02-07-2005, 12:06 AM
02-08-2005, 02:47 PM
02-08-2005, 08:20 PM
02-08-2005, 08:27 PM
02-08-2005, 09:57 PM
I haven't run 1,4 yet, but I will be running it soon. One of its greatest virtues is that shutdown is purportedly minimal.Originally Posted by rrgg
02-08-2005, 11:14 PM
02-09-2005, 07:13 AM
Yeah, I haven't tried it yet, so I can't say.Originally Posted by rrgg
One of my friends ran it with nordiol. He was shutdown pretty hard, but the nordiol makes that detail irrelevant to this conversation (so why the f#$% am I mentioning it?) as nor is quite suppressive.
I bought a lot of 1,4 in a fit of pre-ban hysteria in September, so I will be finding out. I'm kicking myself now b/c before buying it all the reviews seemed great. Now, I keep finding "failed to live up to its promise". Each bottle costs as much as superdrol, yet I know it won't come close to SD. I have all Bulk 1,4; it is the dione, which many claim is better than the diol. I keep hearing that it takes 3-4 weeks to kick in, so front loading it, as Syr is doing, is probably a good idea.
02-09-2005, 02:24 PM
I'll be interested to hear what happens when you try it. I think the shutdown is more than insignificant (despite the lack of direct conversion to estrogen). Thanks!
02-09-2005, 06:30 PM
I will see how bad is the shutdown. I'm going to use Tribuls and/or Unleashed eventually in the second part of the cycle.Originally Posted by rrgg
I will start when i have on hand all the ancillaries I plan to use on cycles and during PCT (including the interlude between the two SD minicycles).
Hopefully in a week or 2. Maybe I'll frontload 2 weeks with 1,4.
Funny enough, I'm (re)gaining pretty fast to be at the peak I was (wet) with my previous cycle. So my mind tells me to wait til that point to start the new cycle.
02-09-2005, 06:31 PM
I seem to respond well to dry not harsh compounds. Equipose, which 1,4add converts to at about 15% is one of the best all-around steroids IMO. So, I'm very optimistic towards this compound.Originally Posted by rrgg
02-09-2005, 07:09 PM
this is a bit odd but i , did sorta the samething i stocked up on some things like1,4addiol so after i see how SYR's cycle turns out i may do the same.
02-26-2005, 09:49 AM
I couldnt wait longer and I finally started the cycle
I always start a cycle an off day. Today instead is gym day (chest/tri/abs).
The "other supps" stack is a little different from what I planned since I dont have the forskolin on hand yet. I'm going do add it along with the 7OH in the second part of the cycle.
Now the supplements stack looks like this:
CEX: I'm off this for now. I want to valuate the SD strenght gains better. I'll restat it when i finish the first SD minicycle
Body Octane: Took a week off, I'll restart it next week.
Milk Thristle: 900mg
Organic Multivitamin: I'm trying this in place of my usual multi
Glucosamine/Chronidotin/MSM/vit C: I was off this for 2 weeks. I'm restarting it today, after workout
Udo's Choice Oil: finally something good tasting! I'm taking the recommended BB dose of 1 spoon per 25kg of bodyweight.
Ab-Solved: I'm running it since 2 weeks with no visible results so far. I hope 7oh will do better.
7OH: I'll start it on week 4
Forskolin: I'll start it on week 4
My usual bulking diet. 5-6 meals, totalling about 500 kcal above my mantenance. 45% proteins, 40% carbs, 15% fat. Food siurces are varied alot during the day and along the week. a little cheat on saturday or on sunday.
Morning: whey+mix+malto+oat flour+udo's oil in 10oz milk
Post-workout: WPI+vitargo in 5oz water and 5oz milk
Bedtime: Custom blend of proteins fat and carbs (see nutrition forum for details) in 10oz milk
03-02-2005, 07:39 AM
03-02-2005, 08:18 AM
I'm a very slow responder. Its day 6 and I have really nothing to report, besides the fact that 1,4add is a very BITTER powder that doesnt mix with water-based fluids and tastes even worse in oil. So I just put in my mouth and drink a full glass of water, then eat something to make the bitter flavour fade away from my papilles.
I restarted body octane today and I will start SD this friday. I'm definitely looking into it.
Also, I think I was wrong about Ab-solved. I lost 2 cm of waist after about 3 weeks of use, skipping MANY TIMES the night application for *personal* reasons
Weight is stable, fluctuating the usual lb. This means for me that NO hormone kicked in yet.
03-02-2005, 08:18 AM
03-02-2005, 02:36 PM
Oh yeah -- I forgot you're gonna "pre-load" the 1,4ADD before you start the SD. That's probably wise, since 1,4ADD supposedly takes quite a long cycle to kick in. You should probably also run it for another week after you stop the SD, just to really get the most out of it. (Plus, SD supposedly hangs around for several days after you stop taking it.)
I'm planning a very similar cycle, but with 1,4-dione, not diol. (Just because I wanted to balance the dryness of the SD with a slightly "wet" compound.) I think the 1,4-diol you're taking is very dry, like SD. So you should probably be very careful to drink plenty of water. And I'm no genius, but I think creatine would also help to draw more water into your muscles/joints.
Anyway, keep us updated, especially once you get into the SD.
03-02-2005, 02:49 PM
If u look at my first post, it explains how i'm running this cycle. I would run 1,4add for a week after the *second* SD minicycle, but that would mean 8 weeks and that's too much, expecially considering that i want to keep enough 1,4 to run another cycle stacked with something else in the future.Originally Posted by ImJ2x
If i knew about SD when i stocked 1,4 i would probably had picked half dione and half diol.
I plan to restart creatine (CEX actualluy) ongoing during the cycle, expecially if the SD gives me lethargy and in the second SD minicycle so i can evaluate the SD strenght gains clearly during the first one.
03-02-2005, 04:04 PM
03-02-2005, 08:05 PM
03-02-2005, 08:30 PM
03-06-2005, 09:43 AM
03-06-2005, 09:47 AM
Started superdrol today (sat). I took it about one hour before training. No effect at all. Well of course
People say the effects are noticeable after 2-3 days, at least regarding recovery and strenght. We'll see. I'm a damn slow responder.
I FINALLY got the Forskolin in my mailbox and I'm deciding when to start it. I planned along with the second SD minicycle... we'll see.
About other supps, I started Red Rice Yeast today, together with SD.
Good news for me is that SD is completely tasteless, altough it doesnt dissolve in water very well. red yeast is almost tasteless as well.
Now if i could cover the horrible taste of 1,4 i would be much more happy.
03-06-2005, 10:59 AM
03-06-2005, 11:18 AM
Just a suggestion but what about some Crystal Light? Mix the 1,4 powder in there and stirr it around and maybe it will help the taste a bit, just a suggestion. Hope all is well with the other parts of the cycle bro, GL!Originally Posted by Syr
03-06-2005, 03:18 PM
Syr- are yo gonna run the forskolin with SD? What is the benefit of that? I am 2 weeks in to SD ( plus other stuff) as well (started log in 'cycles' forum) and am a painfully slow/low responder as well. Good luck, I'll be checkin you out...
03-07-2005, 06:14 AM
I'm using olive oil right now. It tastes a little better than mixed with Udo's.Originally Posted by GymRat06
I'm taking it at lunch and I found that if i'm eating meat (of any kind) it makes the bitterness fade away much more quicker than any other food i tried to.
What's crystal light? the powder dissolves only in oil. Maybe I could try PEG...
Since i'm running this for long i have time to order it from lemelange.
03-07-2005, 06:17 AM
USP suggested me to run it on cycle. And that was my intention. But I'm gonna start it AFTER the first SD minicycle (2 or 3 weeks, depending on the gains and sides) and continue til the end.Originally Posted by milwood
Its my intention to run as less things stacked with SD this time to fully evaluate it.
When did your gains come with SD? I'm a slow responder but not a bad one. And i'm up 1.3 lbs after 2 days of SD and I know that is NOT due to diet and training.
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