Syr SD/1,4add Spring Bulking

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Now if i could cover the horrible taste of 1,4 i would be much more happy.
    What do you expect bro? It comes from cow **** .


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Started superdrol today (sat). I took it about one hour before training. No effect at all. Well of course
    People say the effects are noticeable after 2-3 days, at least regarding recovery and strenght. We'll see. I'm a damn slow responder.

    I FINALLY got the Forskolin in my mailbox and I'm deciding when to start it. I planned along with the second SD minicycle... we'll see.

    About other supps, I started Red Rice Yeast today, together with SD.
    Good news for me is that SD is completely tasteless, altough it doesnt dissolve in water very well. red yeast is almost tasteless as well.
    Now if i could cover the horrible taste of 1,4 i would be much more happy.
    Just a suggestion but what about some Crystal Light? Mix the 1,4 powder in there and stirr it around and maybe it will help the taste a bit, just a suggestion. Hope all is well with the other parts of the cycle bro, GL!
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  3. Syr- are yo gonna run the forskolin with SD? What is the benefit of that? I am 2 weeks in to SD ( plus other stuff) as well (started log in 'cycles' forum) and am a painfully slow/low responder as well. Good luck, I'll be checkin you out...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by GymRat06
    Just a suggestion but what about some Crystal Light? Mix the 1,4 powder in there and stirr it around and maybe it will help the taste a bit, just a suggestion. Hope all is well with the other parts of the cycle bro, GL!
    I'm using olive oil right now. It tastes a little better than mixed with Udo's.
    I'm taking it at lunch and I found that if i'm eating meat (of any kind) it makes the bitterness fade away much more quicker than any other food i tried to.

    What's crystal light? the powder dissolves only in oil. Maybe I could try PEG...
    Since i'm running this for long i have time to order it from lemelange.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by milwood
    Syr- are yo gonna run the forskolin with SD? What is the benefit of that? I am 2 weeks in to SD ( plus other stuff) as well (started log in 'cycles' forum) and am a painfully slow/low responder as well. Good luck, I'll be checkin you out...
    USP suggested me to run it on cycle. And that was my intention. But I'm gonna start it AFTER the first SD minicycle (2 or 3 weeks, depending on the gains and sides) and continue til the end.
    Its my intention to run as less things stacked with SD this time to fully evaluate it.

    When did your gains come with SD? I'm a slow responder but not a bad one. And i'm up 1.3 lbs after 2 days of SD and I know that is NOT due to diet and training.
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  6. day 10 (SD day 3)


    Morning weight: +1.3 lbs. I think 1lbs more than yesterday (didnt weight yesterday) and anyway, my weight was holding stable+, with 0.5 lbs fluctuations.
    Strenght gains: None yet. But maybe I'll have a little surprise in today workout
    Sides: None so far.
    Changes in diet: None
    Changes in supps: Started 5g Taurine pre-workout only, I'm going to take 0.1mg asprini every day during superdrol minicycle.
    Changes in training routine: With SD I'm doing a little tweak to my routine, as follows:
    Split: The same (chest/tri/abs, back/shoulders, legs/bi/abs)
    Frequency: Increase from 3 times over a 9 days to 3 times a week. SD is supposed to increase recovery.
    Reps/sets: Switch from 3x8 to 4x6 and from 2x10 to 3x8 in all excercises. Flat bench and Squat 4x12-10-8-6 remains unchanged.

    What can I say? Superdrol rocks!
    Last edited by Syr; 03-07-2005 at 08:13 AM.

  7. Syr, I never received the email. I wanted to talk privately with you about 1,4ad.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    Syr, I never received the email. I wanted to talk privately with you about 1,4ad.
    VERY strange. try to email me at
    syr at freemail.it

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    I'm using olive oil right now. It tastes a little better than mixed with Udo's.
    I'm taking it at lunch and I found that if i'm eating meat (of any kind) it makes the bitterness fade away much more quicker than any other food i tried to.

    What's crystal light? the powder dissolves only in oil. Maybe I could try PEG...
    Since i'm running this for long i have time to order it from lemelange.
    Crystal lite is like a Sugar Free drink thats like lemonade or somethin or fruit punch, i figured if need be mix it in there and guzzle and maybe that would take the taste away. I know what ur sayin about bitterness though, sometimes the water i take with my caffeine pills and my Vasopro Ephedrine HCL washs away the coating and the bitterness is nasty and i can taste it. Gross stuff i might add!
  10. day 13 (SD day 6)


    Weight (always took in the morning): The gains are steady and pronounced. + 0.3kg yesterday and other 0.4kg today.
    Total gains: +2.5 lbs from thre beginning. I'm VERY impressed.


    Strenght gains: None yet. Workout of day 11 was definitely good (legs and abs). I added 10kg on the leg press. I felt like not wanting to leave the gym. We'll see today with my most intense session (chest/tri/abs).
    Pumps: Since day 12 I feel my muscles pumped all day long. They look bigger (but they ARE also bigger )
    Sides: None so far.
    Other notes: I feel jacked expecially in late evening. I didnt want to go sleep yesterday. This reminds me of m4ohn. I'm taking SD in the afternoon about the same time every day, which corresponds to 1-1.5 hours before working out.

    Note: I post my comments in the morning, before taking the daily dose of SD and other stuff, so its actually after 5 days of SD that i'm reporting the above effects.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by GymRat06
    Crystal lite is like a Sugar Free drink thats like lemonade or somethin or fruit punch, i figured if need be mix it in there and guzzle and maybe that would take the taste away. I know what ur sayin about bitterness though, sometimes the water i take with my caffeine pills and my Vasopro Ephedrine HCL washs away the coating and the bitterness is nasty and i can taste it. Gross stuff i might add!
    Having my saw palmetto tea right after helped me yesterday to flush the bitterness away.
    I generally dont like such drinks.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Having my saw palmetto tea right after helped me yesterday to flush the bitterness away.
    I generally dont like such drinks.
    Ive never tried the Crystal Lite myself but i know others who have. I usualy just flush my supps down with a lot of water and bear the bitterness. Im followin ur log bro so great stuff so far!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by GymRat06
    Ive never tried the Crystal Lite myself but i know others who have. I usualy just flush my supps down with a lot of water and bear the bitterness. Im followin ur log bro so great stuff so far!
    I can confirm that the saw palmetto tea helps A LOT in fading away the bitter backtaste of 1,4.
    So i'm pretty happy so far.
  14. day 14 (SD day 7)


    Due to a fuc*ing strike i couldnt hit the gym yesterday. grrr

    Morning Weight: +0.3kg WOW!
    Total gains: +3.1 lbs from thre beginning. SD: I'm lovin' it!
    Strenght gains: I wish i could test those in the gym yesterday! _'m sure there are now.
    Sides: None so far. A little back pumps/pain, but it could be for other reasons.

    Notes: I dont feel more hungry than usual. Either 1,4 has not kicked in (most likely) or the appetite increase benefit from it just doesnt apply to me.

  15. FYI - I noticed increase in appetite in the first week from 1,4ad. And-- I was very skeptical and didn't expect it to happen...

    (P.S. I'll respond to your email tonight)

  16. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    FYI - I noticed increase in appetite in the first week from 1,4ad. And-- I was very skeptical and didn't expect it to happen...
    For me is too difficult to catch up an appetite increase. The effect i'm having from 4g B12 is slightly noticeable, but exist.
    I think the little disconfort that 1,4 gives me the few hours after i take it neutralize any benefit in that sense.
    This morning i had a little nausea, but i dont think SD is the culprit. We'll see...

    BTW, did u split the dose of 1,4 or not?

  17. Yes, I split the dose. If I'm taking 4 caps, then I split it into 4 separate doses per day. I know that can be inconvenient sometimes...

  18. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    Yes, I split the dose. If I'm taking 4 caps, then I split it into 4 separate doses per day. I know that can be inconvenient sometimes...
    I'm not splitting mine. I couldnt eat that sh*t more than once a day

  19. Well, it was pre-capped. Since you have powder, you could also try a transdermal. Costs more but you'd get a more even dosage and no taste problems. (I have some powder too but am not sure I'll use it after all).

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rrgg
    Well, it was pre-capped. Since you have powder, you could also try a transdermal. Costs more but you'd get a more even dosage and no taste problems. (I have some powder too but am not sure I'll use it after all).
    Next cycle i will use trans. Now I dont have all the stuff i need (carrier and DMSO) and importing em is a PITA.
    Someone said that the bioavailability of 1,4 as trans is around 30% compared to 45% oral. Being expensive, its definitely better to chug the ****.

    I'm pretty accurate with the dosing (its exactly one "small" teaspoon) I wonder only about the half life and if i'm not wasting some taking in a single dose.
  21. day 15 (SD day 7)


    Morning Weight: +0.5kg! I have no words. Yesterday weight was equal to my peak (that is when i was full of water from 4ad last december), but now i'm where i've never been
    Total gains: +4.2 lbs from thre beginning. Changed the sign accordingly
    Strenght gains: I have to wait mroe for these. Yesterday (chest/abs day) I tried to add at least 5 lbs to the benches with the conclusion to do less reps and to stress my arms joints too much. Today my arms are pretty sore
    Sides: No sides! I didnt even feel little nauseous/full this morning

    Edit: i miscalculated the SD days in the couple 2 updates:, i started last saturday, which was day 8 of 1,4.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Next cycle i will use trans. Now I dont have all the stuff i need (carrier and DMSO) and importing em is a PITA.
    Someone said that the bioavailability of 1,4 as trans is around 30% compared to 45% oral. Being expensive, its definitely better to chug the ****.

    I'm pretty accurate with the dosing (its exactly one "small" teaspoon) I wonder only about the half life and if i'm not wasting some taking in a single dose.
    One of the advantages of 1,4AD is it's bioavailability, so it makes little sense to TD it. (But you would get the "timed release" benefit, I guess.) I would consider capping it yourself. Or maybe mix it in with your protein shakes. Wouldn't this dilute it enough to help with the taste?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ImJ2x
    One of the advantages of 1,4AD is it's bioavailability, so it makes little sense to TD it. (But you would get the "timed release" benefit, I guess.) I would consider capping it yourself. Or maybe mix it in with your protein shakes. Wouldn't this dilute it enough to help with the taste?
    Unfortunately i dont swallow caps, otherwise i would have already got a capping machine
    I didnt try to put in a shake. After my experience with CEE, I'm not going to try that again. I'm 200% sure that this stuff is too bitter to taste decent even in 14 oz.
  24. day 16 (SD day 8)


    Morning Weight: +0.4kg. I'm not surprised anymore
    Total gains: +5.1 lbs from thre beginning.
    Notes: Arms joint still sore. I hope they'll be fine for tomorrow workout.
    Sides: Morning wood. If that can be considered a side effect

  25. Good to hear, you have good results. I was waiting for you to try m4oht, but I guess you won't be using it while you have SD (can't blame you though, I'm the same way right now)
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