ADVICE WANTED First Cycle Sus250, winstrol

[Bigyakka]

Starting my first cycle. I am 24, been lifting for 8 years. I am 8-10% BF, 185lbs, 5 foot 10.

I have just bought:
20 amps of Sus 250, 250mg per amp, so running 500mg per week pinning Tues, Frid
1 bottle winstrol, can get another bottle free from cousin who doesnt want it anymore
1 box letrozole, anti estrogen and gyno protection
1 box nolvadex

Can some1 please advise me on how to best use this stack

500mg test weeks 1-10
Winstrol 30mg weeks 6-10
Letrozole 1 cap every third day weeks 2-10
nolvadex NOT SURE ON DOSAGE NEEDED


My diet and training is set, I have a bodybuilding coach and have already placed 2nd in mens physique in may earlier this year.

 

[Bigyakka]

also have tribulus, DAA to take PCT aswell as nolva just to get some extra help

 

[Viking23]

First I would use the win from weeks 8-12 . Secondly sust isn't really a good thing to start with. You would have been better running test e or c. To many esters in sust to be run correctly by a first timer. I would run Nolva at 20 mg for 4 weeks, if you want bump it up to 40 mg the first couple days.

 

[Bigyakka]

Nolvadex for 4 weeks starting when?
They are all teh same price from my cousins hormone doctor, and I have been recomended sus as it has both quick and long acting esters

 

[Viking23]

Nolvadex for 4 weeks starting when?
They are all teh same price from my cousins hormone doctor, and I have been recomended sus as it has both quick and long acting esters

Yeah well pinning short ester twice a week is useless. Use Nolva in pct unless you get gyno on cycle, then I would use Nolva at 10mg ed while you wait for the ai to take care of it.

 

[Bigyakka]

Thanks for the advice mate
I went letrozole as it is known for being the best thing to combat gyno other than surgery...

 

[GeekPoop]

nolva 40/20/20/20 is fine

 

[Bigyakka]

Thanks mate

Any thoughts on Proviron PCT>??

My stack currently then looks like this

Weeks 1-10 Test 500mg pw, 2x 250mg shots
Weeks 2-10 Letrozole
weeks 8-12 Winstrol
Weeks 12-16 Nolva 40/20/20/20
wee

 

[GeekPoop]

Thanks mate

Any thoughts on Proviron PCT>??

My stack currently then looks like this

Weeks 1-10 Test 500mg pw, 2x 250mg shots
Weeks 2-10 Letrozole
weeks 8-12 Winstrol
Weeks 12-16 Nolva 40/20/20/20
wee

I've never used proviron, Im poor

I don't like the use of letro and the only 4 weeks of winstrol but thats just me

 

[Lukef2000]

Blends suck. They are so difficult trying to maintain levels, if you run sus you should pin ED or EOD at the outside to keep the prop ester stable. I've run it once, did not like.

 

[Bigyakka]

How many mg Winnie and for how long then?

From what I have read letrozole is muc better than arimidex especially for gyno

 

[Lukef2000]

How many mg Winnie and for how long then?

From what I have read letrozole is muc better than arimidex especially for gyno

Letro therapy can be used to reverse gyno, but letro is such a powerful AI it's hard to manage estrogen as it literally crushes it into oblivion lol. Armidex is not as powerful bit still very effective, ultimately exemstane is the best.

 

[Bigyakka]

Any1 got advice on Winnie

I'm only doing half a tab of letrozole eod

 

[Lukef2000]

Any1 got advice on Winnie

I'm only doing half a tab of letrozole eod

50mgs for 6 weeks Is how I'd do it. Good luck with the dry joints!

 

[Godstrength]

50mgs for 6 weeks Is how I'd do it. Good luck with the dry joints!

This ^^^ I can't run it any longer than 6 weeks @ 50 mg ed.... Too dry lol
You can also do 50 eod with whinny.

Also the sustanon is fine.... Some people don't like it bc it's a blend but it works great for me @ 2x/week. Different strokes for different folks

 

[Bigyakka]

I was thinking 30mg ed for Winnie
50 seems a bit over the top for my first cycle no?

 

[Godstrength]

My first time running it I was pinning 50 mg every other day, but it was NOT my first cycle. It was ampules so I couldn't split the dose. You can run at 30-40 if you feel more comfortable with that. I would say at least 40 mg, 4-6 weeks if your going to do it.

My rule of thumb is always first cycle- TEST ONLY. If you choose to run the winny, you might as well do it a dose that will work.

 

[Bigyakka]

Any1 else got any info or advice, I would greatly appreciate as much help as possible