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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    Alrighty, end of week 1 measurments.

    Weight: 271 lbs (up 3lbs)
    Arms : 19 7/8" (up 1/8")
    Neck : 19 1/4" (up 1/4")
    Chest : 50.5" (up 1/2")
    Waist : 41 1/2" (down 1/2")
    Thighs : 25" (same) i'm measuring 6" above the knee, not sure if this is the right place or not.
    Calves : 16 5/8" (up 1/8")

    Not bad for week 1. In all honesty I believe the arm measurments went up from the tricep injection but then again my chest measurment went up as well so I dunno. Thighs? Hell, what can I say? May be about time to bust out the 20 rep squats again, oh joy.
    AWESOME...Good progress dude

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    Nice progress Beelz. Hey, I just noticed something. Our calves are almost the same size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Nice progress Beelz. Hey, I just noticed something. Our calves are almost the same size.
    time to measure guns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    time to measure guns.
    LOL...you got me by over an inch there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    LOL...you got me by over an inch there.
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    It is always a good thing when you can increase your weight with a decrease in your waist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by size
    It is always a good thing when you can increase your weight with a decrease in your waist.
    ****in' a
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    Not bad for week 1. In all honesty I believe the arm measurments went up from the tricep injection but then again my chest measurment went up as well so I dunno. Thighs? Hell, what can I say? May be about time to bust out the 20 rep squats again, oh joy.
    Stupid question I think but you said that your arm measurements went up maybe from the tricep injection. If you are trying to target one body part more, does it help to inject into that part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chemist63
    Stupid question I think but you said that your arm measurements went up maybe from the tricep injection. If you are trying to target one body part more, does it help to inject into that part?
    no, there's no localized benefit from spot injecting. i just inject there because i've got meaty arms and it's the easiest spot for me. spot injecting is some crazy ass myth that holds no weight whatsoever. yeah, the measurements go up temporarily but as soon as the oil dissipates (sp?), you're back to normal.
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    i'm starting to feel bloated, pretty bad actually. diet has changed so it shouldn't be that, even though my appetite has went to ****. i have a headache all the time too. thought it might have been something else at first, but the **** won't go away. checked blood pressure, 140/76, not that high, started at 130/70.
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    get some hawthorne and celery seed extract it'll bring your BP back down and you could always use an AI

    keep on truckin
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    get some hawthorne and celery seed extract it'll bring your BP back down and you could always use an AI

    keep on truckin
    yeah, i took some adex a few hours ago and the problems have subsided, guess that'll be a permanent addition to the cycle, 0.5mg EOD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    get some hawthorne and celery seed extract it'll bring your BP back down
    WORD!
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    Sorry to hear about the problems but seems you are getting things back under control. I just ordered some liquid anastrozole in case I start having the same issues. Also nice to know hawthorne and celery seed extract help with BP.
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    celery seed seriously worked wonders for me i was getting bad hypertension headaches and at least one nosebleed a day ... 2 weeks using celery seed extract and hawthorne berry and i was back to normal
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    Weight: 271 lbs

    Leg's and bi's went awesome today. Squats are up 10lbs, got 415 for 6, trying for 8 next week. Bi's are up as well, got another 2 reps on 110lbs EZ bar curls.

    And I gave into indulgence. No no, I don't mean food. I started superdrol, couldn't take it anymore. Started 20mgs, 10 in the morning, 10 preworkout. Haven't quite decided what to do with M4ohn yet. Considering both aren't considered too stressful I may keep them both, even though I always find stacking methyl's a horrible idea. Any thoughts?

    Feeling good, the adex officially knocked out all bloat issues. Added a few more cals to the mix, all vegetables though so I'm not worried about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    Any thoughts?
    Yes! Considdering all the other stuff you got circulating in your blood, Take the full 20mg of SD pre WO, and shouvle in the carbs post WO. This way, you'll take full advantage of its glycogen storing abilities. This is one area where SD really shines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    Yes! Considdering all the other stuff you got circulating in your blood, Take the full 20mg of SD pre WO, and shouvle in the carbs post WO. This way, you'll take full advantage of its glycogen storing abilities. This is one area where SD really shines.
    Noted. Will do for workout days. For off days, I'll split it up.
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    I think it will be really interesting to see what SD does to your weight and strength, given your caloric deficit. you may lose waist size but I am wondering if you will lose weight-- in a spongy-glycogen-aldosterone kind of way. Please keep the reports coming.
    My The 1 LOG: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/254164-my-one-log.html
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    that would be cool if it worked out that way.
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    Damn man. You're making me want to get my next cycle on! Keep it up brotha I don't do cutters though
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    Couldnt hold out any longer, thats too funny. I am putting off mine for another 2 weeks, I need to get the weight in the 270s before I take anything.

    Looks good so far, how do you feel?
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    feel good, it's only day 2 though, so i'm not expecting much already. i'm in it for the long haul, running it for 6 weeks at 20mgs.
    Last edited by Beelzebub; 01-27-2005 at 10:10 PM.
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    Weight: 272 lbs

    Shoulders and back were today. I readjusted military dumbbell presses, now going all the way down til the dumbbell touches my shoulder, nice and slow. Got 105's for 6. Deadlifts didn't feel too suave today, got up to 405 and it didn't feel right, so I stopped there. Was hoping to hit 515 today for a set but I didn't want to risk it. Barbell rows up 10lbs, got 325 for 8.

    Starting to feel slightly lethargic, could be superdrol, since it is the new addition.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    get some hawthorne and celery seed extract it'll bring your BP back down and you could always use an AI

    keep on truckin
    what kinda dosages do you suggest? checked blood pressure again today, 140/90. have a 5 day headache that refuses to succumb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    what kinda dosages do you suggest? checked blood pressure again today, 140/90. have a 5 day headache that refuses to succumb.
    Bump on that info!!
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    i don't have the bottles handy anymore so i forget the exact doses, but i was taken 2 pills of each 3x a day
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    cool deal, i'll figure it out one way or the other.

    weight: 272 lbs (as of friday, 4lbs gain overall)
    but i can tell ya right now, i'm heavier since friday. superdrol must be kicking in.

    measurements: (as of today)
    Neck : 19 1/2"
    Arms : 20 1/8"
    Chest : 50 3/4"
    Waist : 41 3/8" (a tad less than last week)
    Thighs: 25 1/2"
    Calves : 16 3/4"

    only bad effect i've got so far was mentioned earlier. the headache is a pain in the.....head.
    probably from elevated blood pressure, once i get the supps glen mentioned, i'll give em a whirl.
    however, i'm pretty stubborn when it comes to cycles, i highly doubt i'll drop anything unless i'm bleeding from my eyes and seeing dinosaurs raping ATM machines, then i'll consider it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    what kinda dosages do you suggest? checked blood pressure again today, 140/90. have a 5 day headache that refuses to succumb.
    I've used it in the past and as I recall, I just followed label recs. Worked well.
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    hey LO when did you become a mod? nice job my man
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    Today. I'm as suprised as you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    Today. I'm as suprised as you are.
    good job
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    You might want to look into a small dose of a diuretic such as lasix coupled with a selective beta blocker. A few people I know have had blood pressure problems on tren only, which is obviously not related to bloating.

    That's more of a final solution in the event the supplements don't work though.
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    The hawthorne berry takes time to kick in, and you will need at least four or so bottles of it. They are 5 bucks I believe over at 1fast.

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    i'd stay away from lasix and use a natural diuretic like anything with taraxacum officinale leaf extract ... 1fast has a product called taraxatone that i used for 2 days before i was going to see some chick lost 2 inches on my waist! so i definitely dropped a ton of water ... of course all the water came back but it could help given that you're definitely holding more than you normally would
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    Day 15


    how about dandelion root? i've a bottle here that may assist if a natural diuretic is the answer. in any case, the headache left and did not return today so i'm happy for now.

    Weight: 275 lbs

    I'm looking leaner than a few days ago but weight continues to climb, not that I'm complaining. Chest/tri's were today. All lifts are up. Flat bench, got 335 for 9 with a slight spot on 9. Switched tri's up and did a backwards routine so I can't really judge strength from last week, although I did get more reps than the previous tri workout. Lo and behold, my abs do exist, contrary to previous thought. I've still got a ways to go though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beelzebub
    how about dandelion root? i've a bottle here that may assist if a natural diuretic is the answer.
    That's the same stuff Glenihan is talking about. I say give it a whirl. What do you got to loose? Besides water?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lean One
    That's the same stuff Glenihan is talking about. I say give it a whirl. What do you got to loose? Besides water?
    touchee.
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    just remember to drink even more water than usual .. and be prepared to piss your brains out ... i got up 4 times in the middle of the night to pee!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by glenihan
    just remember to drink even more water than usual .. and be prepared to piss your brains out ... i got up 4 times in the middle of the night to pee!!!
    eh, i do that anyway. 2 gallons of water ed adds up.
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