Imm trynna make me some GAINS!
- 08-04-2013, 02:54 PM
So provided that I eventually can train legs on this gear and not forced to stop the test, I was thinking of adding Anavar 50mg/ED PW a week after I stop the Msten. Im not entirely sure if this would be too harsh on my liver as it would mean that id be running 4 weeks of msten, 1 week of just test, followed by 3 weeks of Anavar, followed by 2 weeks of just test and then the 5 weeks of epi. Or I could just run the anavar PW while running the epi. Anyone have any experience doing anything like this? I am running cycle support extensively and drinking loads of water as to prevent damage to my body as much as i can.
- 08-04-2013, 02:58 PM
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- 08-04-2013, 03:04 PM
- 08-05-2013, 10:12 AM
So im basically gonna complete change my cycle...i cant do this ridiculous pip anymore. Getting ready in the morning is like carving my thigh with a knife. I dont know if my source isnt legit or what not but this is not acceptable by any means.
Im thinking just starting with the epi by the 3rd week and once the msten is over put the anavar in.
Itd basically look like:
Msten: 14/21/21/21/0/0/0
Epi 0/0/40/40/50/50/50
Anavar: 0/0/0/0/50/50/50
I know its a liver heavy cycle but i dont know how else to salvage this cycle.NosLabs Science Department - 08-05-2013, 10:16 AM
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- 08-05-2013, 10:22 AM
Yeah i take cycle support 2 times a day and liv52. My only hope right now is that my legs arent crippled, havent traines them in 2 weeks already and dont know what damage has been caused so far.
NosLabs Science Department - 08-05-2013, 04:29 PM
Day 15: Back n bicep
Chin ups (lat down machine): 210x8 230x7 240x5 240x6
Dumbbell rows: 70x8 80x7 80x7
Pull ups: x9 x9 x9
Lat cross: 140x8 160x5
Z bar preacher curl: 75x7 x9 x7
Dummbell curls 20lb burn.
Managed to crawl my ass into the gym and did as much as I could. At this point my legs arent only hurting like a bitch but also draining me, sort of like the flu. Im fairly confident stopping the test is the right choice.
Still I was quite impressed by my lifts considering my status. The pump today was ridiculous i could feel my back completely hard from the chin ups.
Im starting the epi at 40mg/day tomorrow. Im considering getting more CJC-1295 to run through the rest of my cycle or for the PCT as it has done wonders for my lower back injury and some GI problems I hadNosLabs Science Department - 08-07-2013, 11:34 AM
Yeah the more time passes the more convinced I am quitting the injectables was the right choice. My right leg is still painful as hell and has me limping all over the place. Im going to manage to go to the gym today and hopefully it wont get in the way.
I do have a question to anyone whos been in a similar situation. When should i go back to doing legs again? Should i wait untill i have no pain at all? My left leg has been ok to walk since Saturday but if i try to do a squat or apply too much force i can still feel some pain where the pin site was.NosLabs Science Department - 08-07-2013, 03:06 PM
Day 17: Chest/Shoulder/Triceps
Incline Chest press: 185x8 205x6 215x7 215x7 215x5
Flat bench press: 185x7 205x6 205x6
Machine chest flies: 150x9 180x7 180x8 180x8
Dumbbell shoulder press: 50x10 50x9 50x8
Tricep cable extension palm up: 160x8 180x10 180x10 180x10
Machine Shoulder flies: 70xburn 3 sets
Crazy good workout. In spite of the limping I got extra reps on everything. Even better I worked out semi fasted, allI had was a shake earlier and BCAA during my workout. I can already see some changes in my physique, bigger traps/shoulders. My lifts are definitely going up and I cant wait to start doing legs again. So far i dont have any side effect from anything other than the terrible pip from the test (funny how the injectable is giving me more sides than orals). - 08-08-2013, 11:49 AM
The BP effect is starting to become noticeable. After drinking a 16oz coffee I got a very mild headache nothing bad at all but a good warning sign.
This could however get better after the inflammation in my right leg goes down.NosLabs Science Department - 08-08-2013, 07:42 PM
Day 18: Bicep/Abs/Traps
Bicep Dumbbell curls 3 sets
Bicep cable curls 3 sets
Leg raises Stading obliques with dumbbells 4 sets
Crunches 4 sets
Shrugs 3 4 sets
My back wasnt ready to work it out so I decided to do a accesory lifts day and go for hypertrophy and small muscle stimulation rather than strength. My BP was a bit high I could see my veins popping on my temples and a light headache during my workout. Legs are starting to feel somewhat better, still cant walk but at least its not as painful. - 08-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Day 19: Shoulder/triceps
Seated Shoulder press: 50x12 3sets
One arm upright row: 50x12 3 sets
Standing short grip shoulder press: 70x12 80x12 x12
Cable rope tricep ext: 52.5x12 57.5x10 57.5x8 57.5x7
Superset burn:
one arm tricep cable extension
One arm cable side raise
Currently at a hotel so I did what i could with the weights they provided. My leg is still not better but I have a bit more range of motion. Im getting more vascular in my arms in spite of having less definition in my abs. The BP issue went down.NosLabs Science Department - 08-12-2013, 04:15 PM
Day 22: Back/Bicep/Traps
Weighted Chin ups 45x8 80x6 80x5 80x5
Barbell bent over rows 155x12 175x9 185x10 195x8
Squat rack Deadlift(no legs) 245X9 265x7 265x8
Rope upright row 150x8 170x8
Bicep dumbbell curl 30x15 35x12 40x8 40x7 40x8
Rear delt/bicep version upright dbell row 40x8 45x10 50x10
Felt great! My legs is getting better and my shoulders and traps ate still looking fuller. Theres a different feeling inbetween reps as if my muscles rather stop from pain n not tiredness.NosLabs Science Department - 08-12-2013, 08:23 PM
- 08-12-2013, 09:06 PM
- 08-13-2013, 07:54 AM
- 08-13-2013, 08:35 AM
- 08-13-2013, 04:51 PM
Day 23: Chest/Shoulder/Triceps
Flat bench:185x8 205x10 215x8 215x7
Incline Bench (slightly shorter grip):185x5 185x6 185x7
Barbell shoulder press short grip:135x6 135x7 135x7
Cable crossover: 60x8 slow reps x3
Rope tricep cable ext overhead: 110x19 120x12 130x9 130x9
Changed up the order and got a really different feeling after training. My chest felt almost too pumped I was having trouble sitting my arms comfortably in front of me (not sure if bad or not). My right shoulder joint was a little sore during the training im probably gonna have to deload next time if its still the same.NosLabs Science Department - 08-14-2013, 05:49 PM
Day 24: Abs/calfs
Decline crunches x20 4 sets
Parallel bars leg raise x20 4 sets
Standing dbell obliques 50x20 60x15 70x12 70x12
Calf raises 45x burn 4 sets
Supermans (lower back) xburn 3sets
Went in thinking i could do some low weights squats...never been so wrong. My vastus lateralis has no elasticity and is still painfull under stress.
Decided to do some abs to help whenever I do go back to squats.NosLabs Science Department - 08-14-2013, 07:30 PM
Good job bro.
How are the calories coming? You eating enough?
And getting solid work done in the gym?
You are on a big cycle bro, make it happen! - 08-14-2013, 08:23 PM
Since I havent been able to train legs at all i didnt up my cals as far as I originally intended. Ive been doing around 3500cal on workout days and 3000 on rest days with over 300g of protein a day. Im going for more of a lean bulk/strength gains now since its gonna be a rather short cycle. Work in the gym is solid, making progress every time I step in the gym either weight or reps.
- 08-14-2013, 08:26 PM
- 08-16-2013, 09:29 PM
Day 26: Back/Bicep
Weighted chin ups: 45x10 80x6 80x6 80x6 45x7
Bent over Barbell rows: 155x10 175x10 195x9 195x9
Lat cross 150x9 160x6 160x8
Superset :
1. Upright row rear 45x12 50x12 50x12
2. Dbel shoulder fly 20x10 20x6 20x10
One arm bicep curls: 40x9 45x8
Great workout. However my left lat tendon is feeling strained so im probably gonna go for hypertrophy next time. Other than that doing good the pump on my shoulders and traps was just entertaining to say the least.
Ive been giving it some serious thought and I might go for another 4 weeks of cjc-1295 during my PCT to maintain these gains and help some of the tendon damage im probably gonna build up during the rest of the cycle.NosLabs Science Department - 08-18-2013, 08:31 PM
Day 28: Rest
Finished my last cap of M-sten and started to up the dose of Epi to 50mg/day. Tomorrow im adding the 50mg anavar/day PW during workout days. My urine is looking darker today but im attributing it to my reduced water intake yesterday, ill be upping it today and see how it goes. Also today i developed a mild cold which i hope gets better by tomorrow since I need to hit chest.
So far my review on msten is very positive, wasnt ridiculous explosive gains but a pretty consistent strength and muscle gains. My shoulders really popped up during these past 4 weeks and hopefully the epi and anavar turn out even better. My last cycle had a 40/day epi dose ad yield me some pretty good results. - 08-19-2013, 12:38 PM
2 Questions real quick for anyone following my log.
1. Ive been forced to eat a lot of junk food lately (IE pizza) but im still managing to keep my macros and calories in the proper ranges through protein shakes. If im adding fish oils and multivitamins am I hindering gains? Im obviously planning to change this as soon as possible but for the mean time im stuck with this.
2. Today I still woke up sick (stuffy nose, sore throat, some body aches). I rested the past 2 days and im supposed to hit the gym today, should I just wait untill tomorrow or try to work out anyways?
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