Hi guys
Trying to help a buddy structure a rehab cycle, who is rehabing an LCL/miniscus/ITB/PTFS injury in his knee and an impingement injury in his shoulder.
The goals are tissue healing while maintaing mass and gaining strength and endurance overall, while limiting sides as possible.
4-8 weeks, depending on progress:
3 times per day local topical applied to knee and shoulder consisting a total per day of 150mg 4ad and 50mg nandro base OR 300 mg 19-nor base (havent decided yet, I am thinking that 19-nor being a PH will have a longer half life)
the topical will also contain 7-OXO-DHEA 50 mg per day.
The dosages are low because the target is local delivery as possible with little systemic effect(although obviously some will systemic effect will happen, and thus the herbal PCT). I need more opinions on the dosages though
Nolva will be on hand, will use (Vitex?)Fenugreek/Tribulus/Avana sativa for PCT (I think we should stay clear from Anti-Aromataze as possible, more on why later) and Nolva for PCT if needed
was also considering:
25mg proviron for libido and Gyno prevention while on. any feedback on its effect on rehab/joints
Also supplementing with Glucosamine , Chondroitin, Enzymes and anti oxidants (and has been since injured)
the complications with this cycle is that estrogen is extermley usefull and makes it much more easy to train and function, esp. with the knee, BUT, I know that nandro and estogen are a bad combo. (porgesterone potentiates estrogen action in breast tissue) so I thought about cabergoline (which I will run with an m40hn cutter so have and will give him).
also I was thinking about EQ thrown in for weeks 3-4 and making the cycle at least 6 weeks. it supposed to be good for the joints, appetite, endurance (All good for rehab) as well but not as good or backed up by science as nandrolone for healing.
and last, maybe not related, whats the opinion on GH for overuse injuries?
what do you think guys, all thoughts are helpfull.
EDIT: no injections for this guy (for several reasons), only TD and oral, also side effects should be as low as possible.
Trying to help a buddy structure a rehab cycle, who is rehabing an LCL/miniscus/ITB/PTFS injury in his knee and an impingement injury in his shoulder.
The goals are tissue healing while maintaing mass and gaining strength and endurance overall, while limiting sides as possible.
4-8 weeks, depending on progress:
3 times per day local topical applied to knee and shoulder consisting a total per day of 150mg 4ad and 50mg nandro base OR 300 mg 19-nor base (havent decided yet, I am thinking that 19-nor being a PH will have a longer half life)
the topical will also contain 7-OXO-DHEA 50 mg per day.
The dosages are low because the target is local delivery as possible with little systemic effect(although obviously some will systemic effect will happen, and thus the herbal PCT). I need more opinions on the dosages though
Nolva will be on hand, will use (Vitex?)Fenugreek/Tribulus/Avana sativa for PCT (I think we should stay clear from Anti-Aromataze as possible, more on why later) and Nolva for PCT if needed
was also considering:
25mg proviron for libido and Gyno prevention while on. any feedback on its effect on rehab/joints
Also supplementing with Glucosamine , Chondroitin, Enzymes and anti oxidants (and has been since injured)
the complications with this cycle is that estrogen is extermley usefull and makes it much more easy to train and function, esp. with the knee, BUT, I know that nandro and estogen are a bad combo. (porgesterone potentiates estrogen action in breast tissue) so I thought about cabergoline (which I will run with an m40hn cutter so have and will give him).
also I was thinking about EQ thrown in for weeks 3-4 and making the cycle at least 6 weeks. it supposed to be good for the joints, appetite, endurance (All good for rehab) as well but not as good or backed up by science as nandrolone for healing.
and last, maybe not related, whats the opinion on GH for overuse injuries?
what do you think guys, all thoughts are helpfull.
EDIT: no injections for this guy (for several reasons), only TD and oral, also side effects should be as low as possible.