FL3Xing, FOCUSing, getting LEAN-CUT
05-08-2013 03:48 PM
Well with a low dose of Lean Xtreme you should be ok actually. Lean-Cut doesn't prevent cortisol, it prevents the reactivation of already converted cortisol. The androgens used in Lean-Cut will help occupy the the 11b-HSD1 enzyme, which will in turn prevent the neutral-state cortisone from converting back into cortisol if that makes sense. So with a low dose of LX, there would basically be less cortisol available for reactivation.
Originally Posted by StupidThyroid
On the flip side, I still think that due to the amount of products you plan on running, adding LX to the mix will not provide any observable extra benefit and would kind of be a waste of money, so you're right in saving it for PCT in my opinion.
If you're worried about the calorie consumption with the diet you're planning to run, you could add in Focus at 1 cap a day to suppress appetite to a degree, and save your blood pressure on cycle by skipping the ephedrine for now.
And as Irish said, the caps were intentionally made that way. It looks like the most standard capsule size, so I'm guessing it was just easier to use the cap size they had. Capping gels in a smaller capsule would start to get messy.
Originally Posted by IrishSoldier
05-08-2013 03:55 PM
I've got two weeks left fellas
The thermo effect I'm getting from Lean-Cut is getting to a point where it's almost overwhelming!
The other night I popped two caps, took a quick shower, and started getting ready for date night with the lady friend.
It was almost impossible to get ready! I was dripping sweat just trying to dry my hair off with a towel, and ended up having to stuff socks under my armpits while I was waiting for her to finish getting ready because I was sweating through my second shirt lol.
With that being said, I would attempt to get your doses in as far away from social activities as possible on off days if you want to avoid the excessive sweating.
There is no doubt the androgens have built up to a point where if I slack on my diet a bit it has no negative impact. My veins stay full, and the sweating just continues! I have actually put a couple pounds on since ending the first bottle and getting into the second one and my body fat percentage has not increased. This is exactly how I expect a product like this to perform (for me). I can eat somewhat like I'm bulking and get in more cheat meals without worrying about gaining fat.
05-09-2013 04:38 AM
Great to hear. I am taking mine mornings (2 caps) with a bit of caffeine. I nixed the LX idea all together, and am also going to nix ECA. So as mentioned just running DCP and Lean-cut now. May swap the simple caffeine for alphamine and that's about it. Diet and workouts are up to par which will do most of the work for me.
Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
Diet is easy for me, keto for 2yrs, IF'ing for last 6 months of it. I am rarely hungry as it is. 2 big meals per day usually, keto and I am always satiated and feeling great. So overeating is not much a worry, just trying to maximize my efforts best as possible. Irony for me, I always feel better on a cut than a bulk, I am pretty sure it's a mental thing though.
My pct will either be LX/Triazole (or erase) + DAA and a T booster using another pathway, undecided, maybe bulbine, toco-8
I have lost 14in on the waist, started at 54 (yes!) and goal is 36 end of this year. Been stuck at 40 during my entire bulk phase, which is to be expected but I wanna get rid of the rest of this. Then gonna have to deal with the extra skin issues (ew)
Maybe I'll run a log... I usually suck at updating though.
Thanks for the update flex! I'm glad the product works!
05-09-2013 04:49 AM
Congrats on the progress!
Originally Posted by StupidThyroid
If you can't log, you should at least post a review in the reviews section here when you're finished
Size 36 seems like a pretty reasonable goal to me.
I like bulbine but it is really user and dose dependant. My favorite addition is Fadogia.
I'll be going balls to the wall this PCT I've decided. First two weeks will probably be mild, clomid and fadogia just to see how I feel recovering from the cycle.
Then I'm adding low dose ostarine, X-Gels, Anabeta Elite, Erase Pro, Paragon, Test Powder....and I'm sure I'm missing something lol. It'll click once I get home and play with my supplements again.
I purposely didn't apply to any natural muscle builder logs just so I could go crazy.
I'm hoping we can have some of the Androfactory natural supplements dropping on the market around that time too. I'm pretty excited to see those and I know you guys will be too.
05-09-2013 04:27 PM
Good idea on the review, will likely do that. Im on day 5, but I really dont expect to see much til week 3 as I did with androlean. All I remember is weeks 3-6 of my androlean run, it became a smooth loss every week just sticking to my normal routine. Hoping I get the same here. Otherwise, all feels good and normal so far.
Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM
Ive never given fadogia a good shot, so maybe I'll try that.
05-21-2013 06:33 PM
So today is my last day with Lean-Cut
I will get finishing stats up later.
But here are my final thoughts and a summary of my experience:
My total run with Lean-Cut ended up being a 7 week cycle, with the first 4 or 5 weeks using Focus as well.
I think I may have put a tad bit of fat back on this last week thanks to my enormous appetite, but I am still at a lower bodyfat than when I started the cycle. It's hard to stay strict for so long!
I pretty much maintained strength throughout the cycle while eating at a deficit on off days and a slight caloric surplus on lifting days, with little to no cardio.
My weight has stayed the same, and my abs have started to show more.
Especially from the mid section, with little to no change in diet and exercise routine. I hardly did any cardio throughout the cycle.
Right after the first week this started to become more apparent. My veins are like garden hoses after my morning dose and last throughout the day.
LOTS OF SWEAT
Sometimes it became unbearable and I had to make adjustments to my sleep and what kind of clothes I wore. But I knew this from beginning, and that's why I took the product. It makes you sweat! More sweat= more fat burning.
No loss in strength
Another key benefit for me. I am on a constant quest for strength and mass, so taking a fat burner can be hard for me because I don't like to risk losing any muscle. It's nice to stay anabolic while cutting
I was able to keep my attention directed more on the task at hand and finish in a timely manner. It really maintained my train of thought, where normally when I start to feel the first onset of lethargy mid afternoon, my thoughts just bounce all over the place, making it easy to lose motivation.
I felt this both at work and in social settings. I have social anxiety a little bit when I go out and pretty much get pissed off and freak out when people start crowding me. It helped me stay calm. And at work I wasn't hesitant to address certain issues that needed to be addressed and talking them out and getting an answer instead of just getting frustrated and dropping it.
I felt recharged after a night of sleep while on Focus, and I had no problem most nights getting to sleep. I had some pretty vivid dreams as well, although there are a slew of other factors that could cause that.
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