2nd Cycle: Ultradrol/Trenazone
- 03-17-2013, 12:35 AM
2nd Cycle: Ultradrol/Trenazone
Hey guys. I'm 28yo, 5'6" 174lb and roughly 13%bf. Been doing my homework and I think I've got what I want. I'm going for a lean bulk here. Looking for about 12lb. I would like to have an experienced eye or two give this the once over and throw in their two cents. This is what I've got as of now: Ultradrol: 0/8mg/12mg/12mg/12mg Trenazone:1.5ml/2ml/2ml/2ml/2ml Support supps: Inhibit-P(1am,1pm) AL Talos, AL Aegis, AL Achilles, Multi Vit, Fishoil, Taurine, Whey/Casein, 4k+ cal ED My PCT will consist of; Clomid:50/50/50/50 Erase:0/0/3/3/2/1 ed Anabeta:4/4/4/4/4/4 DAA:3/3/3/3/3/3 ed Talos, Aegis, Achilles. Again, any critique will be helpful. Thanks ahead of time!
- 03-17-2013, 09:19 PM
03-17-2013, 09:52 PM
I'm on a Methylstenbolone (Ultradrol) cycle now, and personally, I would say to bump it up, but honestly the trenazone stack might make it more powerful, so who knows... but to be on the safe side, I would bump it up to atleast 10/20/20/20 (I would be prepared for cramping after you hit your secondish week, I get cramps a bunch in my chest and forearms randomly throughout the day). And by saying, 'you think you have what you want', I'm not sure if that means you physically have all your things or if you just have everything planned out, but if you would like for me other opinion, I would go with Trenavar over Trenazone. Oral Trenavar (Estra-4,9,11-triene-3,17-dione) converts to trenbolone in high concentrations in the body, upwards of 90%, without the famed "tren cough". Trenazone converts to the less powerful steroid, Dienolone, which will give you less results, but still good results, none the less.
So, as you put it, "My two cents" would be be, up the ultradrol to 10/20/20/20 and eat monsterous carbs throughout the day, overload your muscles with glycogen. (I love eating a good meal before bed and waking up the next morning being pumped full of glycogen... It's just a confidence booster lol )
and also, go for Trenavar (converts to Trenbolone) rather than Trenazone (converts to dienolone), more muscles, more vascularity, fat loss and good stack with ultradrol too.
03-18-2013, 10:49 AM
03-18-2013, 10:59 AM
The ultra comes in 4mg tabs, so should I start at 8mg or 12mg then make the jump to 20? Also, wish I had done some research on the Trenavar before I got 2 bottles of the zone. Well, there is always next time right. I love eatin those carbs myself. I always keep a few bottles of Ultimate Nutritions Pure muscle Carbs around so overloading has never been a problem. About the cramps, have you found anything that makes them a little more bearable?
03-18-2013, 11:15 AM
Also, stick with the Trenazone. Trenavar is super hit or miss and I didn't feel a thing off it. Big dissapointment
03-18-2013, 12:35 PM
03-18-2013, 02:39 PM
03-18-2013, 05:40 PM
I'm just gonna keep the Ultra. I just moved to where I'm at now and don't know anybody yet. Starting at 12 and bumping it up to 20 works for me. I'd hate to be halfway through this and realize I'm underdosing it. Yeah, I already own 2 bottles of the Trenazone anyway. Thanks for the help bud.
03-18-2013, 05:48 PM
Those cramps sound pretty rough. I've had the back and calf pumps but nothing like those cramps. I've got a few bottles of the potassium here, and I just picked up a new bottle of taurine in case I get the "pumps". I think I'll increase my potassium and taurine intake about half way through the first week so when I up the dose I'll be ready. Thanks again!
03-18-2013, 06:30 PM
03-18-2013, 07:45 PM
I'll take that luck! Debating on whether to run a log or not. I'm prob gonna message you before to long about the other. Respect
03-18-2013, 07:50 PM
If you did a log, I would definitely follow you, brother. I'm about half way through week three now and I'm up a good 8 lbs. I probably could've gone up a couple more pounds, but this is my first time on M-sten and I wasn't aware of how I should work my diet until I found out my 'sweet spot' around week two. Heavy heavy heavy carbs and protein and a good amount of healthy fats.
Go for the log man, I'd love to see your results!
03-18-2013, 08:34 PM
I think I will log it. Still gonna be a couple weeks. Got a couple other supps I'm trying to collect before I start this. 8lbs is a solid gain. I'm prob gonna throw a weight gainer in there so I can keep my cals up to 4500 to 5000. I really want that 12lbs. So, the cramps were the only sides you got through the whole cycle? That's not to bad. I hope I have the same fortune! By the way, love the Braves!!!
03-18-2013, 08:45 PM
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