ANDROFACTORY 8 week cycle: REAL results

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  1. Speaking of before and after pictures, if anyone is interested in logging Bulk-Up with pictures and measurements I will see if I can get you hooked up for a decent price.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Speaking of before and after pictures, if anyone is interested in logging Bulk-Up with pictures and measurements I will see if I can get you hooked up for a decent price.
    Good op. I'm still on the fence about any of the "new" ph's out there.
    but 22lbs in 8 weeks could be possible. I would think he went from eating normally to eating well, training sub par to training well, and probably was carb depleted. Not to knock the product. BUT I would "think" probably at most 10lbs of lean muscle plus 10 more pounds of glycogen storage.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Speaking of before and after pictures, if anyone is interested in logging Bulk-Up with pictures and measurements I will see if I can get you hooked up for a decent price.
    Might be a really retarded question but on a cruise of 200mg of test would bulk up for those 8 weeks have any extra effect?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by mattrag View Post

    Good op. I'm still on the fence about any of the "new" ph's out there.
    but 22lbs in 8 weeks could be possible. I would think he went from eating normally to eating well, training sub par to training well, and probably was carb depleted. Not to knock the product. BUT I would "think" probably at most 10lbs of lean muscle plus 10 more pounds of glycogen storage.
    Spot on, glycogen storage does amount to some serious muscle mass. As well as strength gains.
    Pct is the true test.
    We'll see how much he keeps. But if his dedication level persists I being he keeps 12-15 lbs.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by howwedo107 View Post

    Might be a really retarded question but on a cruise of 200mg of test would bulk up for those 8 weeks have any extra effect?
    What's up bud?

    It could be considered a blasting period if done that way. You will be further saturating your body with androgens. I've heard of people doing something similar while on TRT actually.
    You could expect extra androgenic activity, increased aggression etc, and if course there would be extra estrogen conversion in that case.

    I would be interested to see a log on that
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  6. When I tried to run prodienelone last year at a very stackable 80mg/ed w/ some epi. I woke up the second day with itchy nipples. By day 5 they were so inflamed I switched my cycle to straight epistane and never looked back. Been leery of progestins since then but interested in stacking this product sometime possibly.... any beta testers notice any gyno activity on cycle or after from this product at recommended dosage? I'm sure it'd be the minority but jw all the same.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    When I tried to run prodienelone last year at a very stackable 80mg/ed w/ some epi. I woke up the second day with itchy nipples. By day 5 they were so inflamed I switched my cycle to straight epistane and never looked back. Been leery of progestins since then but interested in stacking this product sometime possibly.... any beta testers notice any gyno activity on cycle or after from this product at recommended dosage? I'm sure it'd be the minority but jw all the same.
    While dienolone and P-Bold can both be considered a progestin, they act in different ways.
    Dienolone will not really convert to estrogen or DHT and increases prolactin, which is what probably caused the itchy nips, where as P-Bold converts to estrogen. Stacking with Bulk-Up should minimize estrogen related gyno due to the anti estrogen effects of DHT.
    ALSO with there being ATD in P-Bold it left me pretty dry and estrogen free when I ran it.
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  8. Looking over the ingredient profile on AF's site; I'm sure I'm missing something but can't seem to find the atd anywhere on there.

    Either way estrogen I can control; between erase, formasurge, or some rc exema or letro worse case I can handle estro gyno fine. Just the progesterone stuff where it gets trickier. May end up stacking this for a 6 wk run w/ 1 & 4dhea later in the year.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde View Post
    Looking over the ingredient profile on AF's site; I'm sure I'm missing something but can't seem to find the atd anywhere on there.

    Either way estrogen I can control; between erase, formasurge, or some rc exema or letro worse case I can handle estro gyno fine. Just the progesterone stuff where it gets trickier. May end up stacking this for a 6 wk run w/ 1 & 4dhea later in the year.
    I apologize bud I was referring to the original (beta) version that I ran.
    If you do end up running the stack I would be interested in your results. You'll have to link me to your log!
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  10. Check this guy out, 20lbs lost in 5 weeks using P-Bold on a cut.



    Just 4 pounds a week seems possible. I remember seeing one of the loggers for Taurus's version losing some weight on this as well.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post
    Check this guy out, 20lbs lost in 5 weeks using P-Bold on a cut.

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCxOy4Qb00Y">YouTube Link</a>

    Just 4 pounds a week seems possible. I remember seeing one of the loggers for Taurus's version losing some weight on this as well.
    ive been meaning to ask about a comparison to taurus's version
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    ive been meaning to ask about a comparison to taurus's version
    Exactly the same, and with the same great minds formulating it.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post

    Exactly the same, and with the same great minds formulating it.
    well then. i have 8 weeks of pbold and this thread caught my eye into using it for a cal deficient. i may take you up on your offer for logging
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    well then. i have 8 weeks of pbold and this thread caught my eye into using it for a cal deficient. i may take you up on your offer for logging
    What did you have in mind? Let me know and I'll see what I can do.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by FL3X MAGNUM View Post

    Exactly the same, and with the same great minds formulating it.
    Why does Patrick Arnold say this product is completely useless? Others say I need 10 bottles to run a good cycle wtf ?!??!!?!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Why does Patrick Arnold say this product is completely useless? Others say I need 10 bottles to run a good cycle wtf ?!??!!?!
    i have taken PP products which are almost exactly like AF's (except for the dosages) and its a MUST to take it for 8 weeks or more and dont let anyone tell you anything different. they are expensive, but the raws are expensive for the company as well.


    as far as patrick arnold, i am not sure. the only PH like this that i saw real results from was andromass V2.
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  18. Yea but at what dosage? I have 4 bottles right now. So from what I'm understanding 300 mg of bold is where you start see effects so why would 20 mg servings of a bold precursor be sufficient?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    Yea but at what dosage? I have 4 bottles right now. So from what I'm understanding 300 mg of bold is where you start see effects so why would 20 mg servings of a bold precursor be sufficient?
    He said, she said.....

    Ive been using 8ml a day for the last 3 weeks with decent results, you have 4 bottles of wat? AF pbold or taurus?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post

    He said, she said.....

    Ive been using 8ml a day for the last 3 weeks with decent results, you have 4 bottles of wat? AF pbold or taurus?
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post

    Why does Patrick Arnold say this product is completely useless? Others say I need 10 bottles to run a good cycle wtf ?!??!!?!
    Not sure, I ran through 4 bottles in an 8 week cycle and got strong as hell.

    By the way guys, P-Bold is back in stock
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  22. What dose were you using?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by JD261985 View Post
    What dose were you using?
    his log is on here, google pbold..i started with 6ml and now using 8 to finish out cycle with 3 caps lean cut....
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