8 weeks of cycling, more gains during pct? lets find out!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    well i use flexible by formutech...i do feel good, my knees started hurting during mechabol from heavy squatting.
    Oh alright no doubt, that sucks they were bothering you on cycle; as long as you're cautious or not doing squats at all now, then I'd prob just chill with that for a lil bit. Dropping the erase pro is def a good idea then, because you're just drying them out quicker and no matter how much joint formula you take in, it'll still take a bit of time for that to properly get into your body.

    At one point with my back, hip and my right knee I was taking enough glouca/chroind from OT, forged joint repair, a special liquid, joint force (a topical I love) and another supp that it was equivalent to horse joint/ligament relief; I googled that to see if it was safe enough to take that amount, sad but true hahaha. Still, with all of that it took about a good month to two before it all worked and from then on out, taking those joint supps not as much, haven't had a problem yet.
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  2. ive been looking for a good topical to use on my knees. the funny thing is i used ad3 from lecheek for 8 weeks with no joint problems but leaned out a good bit
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  3. brief update. still feel shutdown but maintaing mass and around 182lbs. diet has been subpar lately but getting back on track. feel worn down and next week im outa town for 4 days so i'll have a somewhat break.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    brief update. still feel shutdown but maintaing mass and around 182lbs. diet has been subpar lately but getting back on track. feel worn down and next week im outa town for 4 days so i'll have a somewhat break.
    I know it's gonna suck, but I'd recommend using that erase you have and throw in a joint supp; seems like that's gonna be a light start to help boosting ya back up. I would recommend picking up joint force by e-pharm, around 20 bux on amazon, ish has saved my back, hips and left shoulder; however, I was also taking gloucasamine/chrond and OT.

    I think nolva is playing a part into this as well, but what else are you using at this moment again; I don't think the osta is a concern. I know it might dry up your joints a joint, but try to throw that AI back in there. I think I could help out a bit, I just don't want to ask personal questions or you having to answer them. However, if your E is too low your joints will be dried, but if you're feeling completely shutdown sounds like something is goin on.

    I looked at the ingredients of recourse and elite; they both alright, however recourse has that prop blend and doesn't tell you how much DAA is in there, when 3g's are needed 3-4wks. HWG is also good also, but there are no specific doses. One thing that has help is any product with fadogia, (no fck HCGenerate and bridge; although I like bridge a lil) I'd suggest picking up a bottle of T-Force or anything with fadogia and get in 1 to 1.5g a day; so if a pill is 375, take 4 throughout the day. Try using that erase pro again for another week and if you notice an increase if your sex drive, libido, etc keep it goin; however, sounds like you're almost at a tradeoff between the dried joints as well. Are you also getting sorer or muscle pain, as typically with high E, it's still beneficial for your joints/ligaments/tendons, just not beneficial anywhere else.
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  5. i actually started EP back up last night. i currently have daa powder on hand and have an order placed for epharms topical. im basing my suppression feeling on the fact my balls havent changed and low sex drive. no soreness or pain as of yet. i'll continue tamoxifen a few more weeks and add in daa powder....
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    i actually started EP back up last night. i currently have daa powder on hand and have an order placed for epharms topical.

    Alright good stuff, keep on taking what you have and then throw in the other jumpoffs as well.

    im basing my suppression feeling on the fact my balls havent changed and low sex drive. no soreness or pain as of yet. i'll continue tamoxifen a few more weeks and add in daa powder....
    Unfortunately other low sex drive [I know it sucks man I've been there for sometime], that's pretty good then and I just think it's a combo of a couple things and nolva. Once that AI starts working it's way thought + daa + maybe another test booster with fadogia on top of recourse/anabeta/osta and I don't think you could go wrong. Is this the beginning of your third week or how long has it been exactly? I don't think you need to go further with the nolva, just the rebound [hopefully it will not occur] afterwards. It actually takes a bit of time for libido to recover off nolva; not even just reading it online, but with what friends have told me, it usually takes a week/two or so after for sex drive to start getting back.

    Give it a few more days then go by one more week and see how you feel more there, it sucks but it might just be the waiting game. After my last cycle from mid way of the second to last week to the third week of PCT, slowly and slowly getting better; after the first week of ending PCT and still using some TB I had left around, I got back to normal. I was scared to get bloods done, so I waited another couple of months and when I got the results, all I had was high cholesterol and everything came back within normal range. Unfortunately, that down time (no pun intended) sucked and I had to find ways of playing it off, talkin ish bout my back is killing me and what not; but sometime in the near future you'll start waking up with morning wood and it'll be all good from there.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by SinX View Post
    Unfortunately other low sex drive [I know it sucks man I've been there for sometime], that's pretty good then and I just think it's a combo of a couple things and nolva. Once that AI starts working it's way thought + daa + maybe another test booster with fadogia on top of recourse/anabeta/osta and I don't think you could go wrong. Is this the beginning of your third week or how long has it been exactly? I don't think you need to go further with the nolva, just the rebound [hopefully it will not occur] afterwards. It actually takes a bit of time for libido to recover off nolva; not even just reading it online, but with what friends have told me, it usually takes a week/two or so after for sex drive to start getting back.

    Give it a few more days then go by one more week and see how you feel more there, it sucks but it might just be the waiting game. After my last cycle from mid way of the second to last week to the third week of PCT, slowly and slowly getting better; after the first week of ending PCT and still using some TB I had left around, I got back to normal. I was scared to get bloods done, so I waited another couple of months and when I got the results, all I had was high cholesterol and everything came back within normal range. Unfortunately, that down time (no pun intended) sucked and I had to find ways of playing it off, talkin ish bout my back is killing me and what not; but sometime in the near future you'll start waking up with morning wood and it'll be all good from there.
    When I say further I mean you don't have to pass 4 weeks of nolva, but what's your dosage and which week are you on?
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  8. beginning of third week. i did 20/20/12.5/ and will do another 12.5
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    beginning of third week. i did 20/20/12.5/ and will do another 12.5
    alright you should be fine then and if you feel still feel like you're getting mad emotional and what not, you can drop it down to 10. Give it a few more weeks and you'll be alright.
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  10. ironically today i aquired oily skin and a few pimples. the boys are hanging pretty low also.
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  11. how have your workouts been? feeling strong? how's your stamina? good luck

  12. Workouts are good. In need of a deload real soon. Strength is higher now than on cycle and still holding at 183-184
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  13. Glad to hear things are going a bit more smoothly and just keep at it you'll be back to normal in no time. Also, when you get that topical just spray 3x twice a day in that area and I wouldn't go more than 6 weeks. From a wise man to another, if you use it on your lower back, just make sure none of that liquid slides down otherwise you'll be burnin hardcore nasty; any area you apply it in, try not to use your hands, but it's not a problem if you very lightly rub it in and move it in place (just wash your hands afterwards). It's also recommended (not necessary), to saran wrap it for a good 30mins and it'll get in there nice and well, and it may burn pretty good as well, just to give you a heads up, however, I've tried a lot of topicals but this is the only one I've purchased twice and will continue to.
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