Best cycle for up to half a grand
- 01-27-2013, 07:14 AM
Best cycle for up to half a grand
Currently willing to spend up to half a grand on first cycle.
I want as much lean gains as humanly possible, with as little water weight as possible, without going as far to deal with aromatizing effects and gyno.
I'm 6,2 been bodybuilding for several years, recently did a sum of 5 calipers and RJL scan and it put me around 65% water mass, @ 8% body fat (190 lbs).
I know prices are different depending on quality, source..etc, but for this purpose let's say standard prices apply.
Basically wondering if it's possible to gain and keep 15 lbs of pure ripped muscle to my frame after PCT is done.
Diet is spot on, has been for a year. Looking to take my gains to the next level. I'm a personal trainer and I know my macros which I use to plan meals days in advance.
Looking for advice ! Very interested in your responses.
- 01-27-2013, 08:41 AM
Age n previous cycles?
01-27-2013, 09:00 AM
01-27-2013, 09:20 AM
Test E week 1-12 250mg mon/Thursday 500mg total
Tbol kicker week 1-6 60mg (I felt it about day 15)
Aromasin 12.5mg EOD if you see bloat (but you prob won't but everyone is different) then up it to 12.5mg ED Week 1-12
Start pct 10 days after your last pin
^^Paragon (both in one) can be used or dpol (daa with nitrates) and erase (great anti e)combo it's up to you bro
01-27-2013, 09:20 AM
See my quotes in your quote
01-27-2013, 09:22 AM
Work Hard. PLAY HARDER!!
01-27-2013, 09:23 AM
01-27-2013, 09:27 AM
half a grand? is that wat u guys actually spend?
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01-27-2013, 09:49 AM
01-27-2013, 10:06 AM
01-27-2013, 10:13 AM
01-27-2013, 10:22 AM
01-27-2013, 10:23 AM
DAA - Aspartic Acid, I learned about this in class, I think if I remember correctly it's a non essential amino acid. May be wrong, either way. With this assisting compound are the minimal effects when you take it natural, amplified on cycle?
I actually have heard of erase, and erase pro. Saw it last time I ordered two bottles of 180 cap Recompadrol for my last cut, ever heard of that?
(Or in this case, work out* )
01-27-2013, 10:25 AM
01-27-2013, 10:32 AM
One thing, I'm not squeemish about poking myself, the book shows exactly the spot, sanitation etc. Never had a problem back in the day when I was a kid and forced to get the flu shot (now I don't) but anyways I digress.
Where do you guys purchase your syringes + sanitation equipment?
01-27-2013, 10:34 AM
02-04-2013, 11:35 AM
Hey , did a bit of digging through some of my resources and came across a Provirion/Deca/Winstrol for a Cutting/Extreme Lean Mass Cycle.
140 tabs of Proviron for Anti-E
10ml 200/ml Deca x each week
100 tabs 10mg stanozolol (Win)
From what I can tell, the proviron adds good androgen content to the nandrolone base, which is pretty anabolic on it's own.
Winistrol, enhances the fat burning and anabolic nature of this combo, added later on in week 5.
Thoughts? I primarily enjoy the once a week injection featured, as some cycles look pretty poke.
02-04-2013, 11:46 AM
Very low dosed cycle and too short of a duration of deca. Proviron should help to mediate some of the effects, but your libido will likely take a large hit for several months.
First cycle, IMO, should be very basic: 500mg of Test E or C for 10-12 weeks.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
02-06-2013, 08:56 AM
What type of gains could I expect, given my priorly mentioned body composition statistics on this type of gear?
02-06-2013, 08:59 AM
02-06-2013, 09:20 AM
Okay, I should have expected that
I've read enough to know each person is different. Excited, Waiting for a good chance to sit down and just read till I am unable to process any more information. I love those nights by the fire with the laptop just absorbing; adding to my knowledge base.
02-07-2013, 12:01 AM
I would recomend 12-14 weeks 500mg test e per week inj 250x2
Weeks 1-4 run 50 mg dbol
At end of cycle run 6 weeks of winny 50mg till pct
I saW realy good gains for this but only ran 10 weeks, wished I would've ran 14.
I get my gear pretty cheap and with gear alone I'm talking 225 range. That's a startting block and you know about ai's and pct I'm sure. Good luck and hope you post ur cycle here sounds like with your nutrition and your knowledge for training you could pack on close to 20lbs of lean hard mass as the winny will harden you up and get rid of that unwanted water retention. Hope that helped, good luck!
02-07-2013, 12:41 PM
Hey I can't thank you enough for your information,
I am going to purchase Paragon, and I have another question in particular regarding dosing; following the labelled instructions taking 3 x a day, it should last approximately four weeks.
Do I begin that with the rest of pct plan beginning 10 days after last pin, or ongoing on cycle.
I've heard endless preaching the effectiveness of milk thistle, would this avenue of liver protection be benefical to add in? + joint flex etc.
Thanks in advance I look forward to your answers.
02-07-2013, 12:42 PM
02-07-2013, 06:18 PM
I looked into it concurrently found several price points to be had on the items listed above.
Now for the obvious question, boys and girls.
Proviron (25mg-50tabs) $100
| Clomid (25mg-50tabs) $100
| Nolvadex (25mg-50tabs) $100
Tbol kicker (25mg-50tabs)$100
Test E (300mg - 20cc) $160
Total $560 or 460$
Please critique these prices and my overall order. I am interested in opinions in relation to CAN dollars if this is acceptable range to be facilitating.
Last edited by NeighbourMike; 02-07-2013 at 06:24 PM. Reason: Added amounts
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