Starting a cycle

[gkulek]

Hi guys I've been lifting for about 12 years but am looking to start a cycle to pack on a little muscle. Anybody on here got any input they could share please?

 

[EatMoar]

Hi guys I've been lifting for about 12 years but am looking to start a cycle to pack on a little muscle. Anybody on here got any input they could share please?

Start reading and researching a compound you like. Also include a pct , and no serm no cycle. The stickies in this forum should be your starting point.

 

[gkulek]

@eatmoar

What have u taken?

 

[cmitch]

Hi guys I've been lifting for about 12 years but am looking to start a cycle to pack on a little muscle. Anybody on here got any input they could share please?

For a first cycle I'd reccomend something easygoing. Hdrol is perfect with zero side affects if you do it right. But research about pct and serms and decide what you want.

 

[gkulek]

@cmitch

What did u start out with and what's the basics. I've used every supplement under the sun but never roids ?

 

[cmitch]

@cmitch

What did u start out with and what's the basics. I've used every supplement under the sun but never roids ?

I started out with hdrol. Halo drol. It's not a steroid it is a ph. Basically a legal steroid. Get set up with some pcts a good serm and some on cycle support like cycle assist.

 

[gkulek]

What were ur gains on hdrol? What did u use for pct? I've taken andro before and another ph called double dragon SOS 500.

 

[gkulek]

What were ur gains and what did u use for pct? I've taken andro and a ph called double dragon SOS 500 before.

 

[cmitch]

What were ur gains on hdrol? What did u use for pct? I've taken andro before and another ph called double dragon SOS 500.

At peak I gained about fifteen pounds. And was able to keep ten of them. For the price I was happy. And since it is on the weaker end of phs I experienced zero side affects which was a big plus for me.

 

[gkulek]

Is hdrol a oral drug then?

 

[cmitch]

Is hdrol a oral drug then?

Just a pill.

 

[gkulek]

Just a pill.

I was reading about test e and how that injectables are better then oral because they don't have to go through ur liver twice, what's ur opinion on this?

 

[cmitch]

I was reading about test e and how that injectables are better then oral because they don't have to go through ur liver twice, what's ur opinion on this?

i don't have a whole lot of experience with injectables, but i do know that injectables will be a longer cycle (8-12 weeks) where as an oral or "pro hormone" cycle will be shorter at around 6-8 weeks and therefore less expensive.

 

[gkulek]

What name brand of halo did u take. I found one called beast supa-test with 30 mg of halo?

 

[EatMoar]

i don't have a whole lot of experience with injectables, but i do know that injectables will be a longer cycle (8-12 weeks) where as an oral or "pro hormone" cycle will be shorter at around 6-8 weeks and therefore less expensive.

The whole thing about comparing testosterone to a prohormone is the toxicity. Testosterone, still toxic, is far less toxic comparing to a pro hormone. The orals are hell on your liver.

 

[cmitch]

What name brand of halo did u take. I found one called beast supa-test with 30 mg of halo?

I took Halo-v from vital labs, and it had 25mgs of halo per pill. and yes EatMoar has a valid point, orals are more toxic, and therefore you will have to run some oncycle support. I used milk thistle, and hawthorn berry. Halo is a mild PH, so anyone who tells you that you need more than that is full of BS. Pct you just need a good serm like Nolva, or Erase pro and maybe a test booster. You can also add in DAA if you wish

 

[EatMoar]

I took Halo-v from vital labs, and it had 25mgs of halo per pill. and yes EatMoar has a valid point, orals are more toxic, and therefore you will have to run some oncycle support. I used milk thistle, and hawthorn berry. Halo is a mild PH, so anyone who tells you that you need more than that is full of BS. Pct you just need a good serm like Nolva, or Erase pro and maybe a test booster. You can also add in DAA if you wish

I'd toss in cel cycle assist as well. I'm just a precautions person when it comes to my organs no matter how mild anything claims to be.