first time ph with trt
- 01-02-2013, 11:47 PM
first time ph with trt
im just starting on trt ( testerone replacement). after im on it a little while and go for some blood tests i want to try my first ever prohormone. ive been considering havoc/ epistane. my question is what do i need with it? liver support sure but do i need an ai? any sort of pct? please give me advice. maybe good sites to buy ai/pcts at and what to buy. im old enough and have good amount of time in gym. thank you
- 01-03-2013, 12:04 PM
01-03-2013, 12:05 PM
01-03-2013, 12:24 PM
then why not just up the test dose?... IMO theres no need to use a oral if your already using injections and are just starting out.
whats you trt dose?
01-03-2013, 12:38 PM
doesnt work like that
you only get the exact amount you need. you cant get more. maybe once im in it a while i will make up a story i dropped a bottle and need an extra but since i just started i dont want to do it too soon.
01-03-2013, 12:52 PM
01-03-2013, 12:55 PM
im not positive on the exact amount yet. i find out in a few days when i start it but i wanted to order the ph and whatever else ill need before that stuff is all pulled frim the market. did doc prescribe you any anti estrogen?
01-03-2013, 04:13 PM
No, At the moment I'm useing blacklions form... Works great and I don't need a script for it and can buy it anywhere.
But if your on trt you will not need pct... Ever! Just take a PH like DMZ for 4-6wks 6being max. When your done your done, just stop the oral and go back to your day day as normal.Maybe a anti e but no pct.
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01-04-2013, 03:00 PM
01-04-2013, 03:33 PM
what kind dosing you think i should use for the orals while in my trt? i have halotest25 and havoc
01-04-2013, 03:38 PM
01-04-2013, 04:11 PM
01-05-2013, 02:01 AM
I'm on TRT right now. Been doing it for a month and a half. It's awesome. I take150 mg a week. Also just started my first ph. It's actually epi/max lmg/ methylsten. Should see some awesome gains. Im taking iron mag labs e-control and so cycle support which I actually pre loaded for 3 weeks. I'm only running for 4 weeks due to the m sten
01-05-2013, 02:56 AM
how many calories over maintenance do i eat will on ph. i want to add mass. should i train and eat the same as normal? i usually eat 250-300 extra cald a day. have you seen any increase on the trt by itself?
01-05-2013, 02:58 AM
01-06-2013, 02:21 AM
If your going to run for mass then you probably need to eat about 400-500 over. Like me, im 6' 230 and on normal should be eating around 2500-3000 a day just for normal function. I am eating every 3-4 hours and taking 3-4 protein shakes a day. im getting about 250-300 g of protein a day also. I would say I have noticed since I have been taking the TRT, I have been toning around my biceps, shoulders and back a lot. I am also becoming more vascular big time. Im only on day 2 of my ph cycle and I would honestly say I dont feel much different yet but definately lethargic more like when I wasnt on TRT. I am always thirsty. Make sure you drinking around a gallon and half of water a day... Good luck bro.
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