Second Cycle Advice

[Cmaestas10]

First Cycle:

500 mg/wk Test-C 15 wks
400 mg/wk EQ 12 wks
500 iu/wk HCG
Arimidex 0.25 mg/EOD

PCT
Nolva 40/40/20/20 mg/day for 4 wks

Results so far:
191 to 217 lbs @ 14-16% bodyfat

Bodyfat went higher than I wanted, but the diet has been clean. I think I just simply ate too much.

I'm planning on a second bulk cycle in a few months, but I have no idea what to run. I was thinking about running the same cycle again even if I get diminishing returns as I got great results and no sides. I was also considering Deca or Tren instead of the EQ. I was also considering doing a recomp for the first half of the next cycle. Thoughts?

 

[MANotaur]

Throw in a good oral kicker, like Dbols or Abombs. Thats really all you need. Im stoke about the eq never run it before...how did you like it??

Im running a very very similar cycle in a few weeks,

750 test C 17 weeks
600 EQ 15 weeks
Dbol- 50 mgs/day weeks 1-4
Letro .25 QD

I got Nolva/daa/DHEA for PCT

 

[usealittle]

16% BF and you want to do another bulk?....

 

[MANotaur]

16% BF and you want to do another bulk?....

^^
LOLz to each there own...

 

[Cmaestas10]

Yes 16% and I wanna do another bulk, but I was either gonna diet down for like 6 weeks after I recover or recomp on my next cycle for a few weeks then bring my calories up. This is my first go around, but I'm no dummy. Just want the best result. So advice would be cool.

 

[Cmaestas10]

Throw in a good oral kicker, like Dbols or Abombs. Thats really all you need. Im stoke about the eq never run it before...how did you like it??

Im running a very very similar cycle in a few weeks,

750 test C 17 weeks
600 EQ 15 weeks
Dbol- 50 mgs/day weeks 1-4
Letro .25 QD

I got Nolva/daa/DHEA for PCT

I definitely liked the EQ. I got wicked strong, and had no sides on this cycle.

 

[usealittle]

This is my first go around, but I'm no dummy. Just want the best result. So advice would be cool.

just askin a question... dont get your panties in a bunch.

 

[Cmaestas10]

My panties are just fine friend. No hard feelings, honestly. I just want to know what you think.

 

[usealittle]

K what I think...

Cycles should be 10-12 wks... I don't like long cycles.
500test is fine but IMO EQshould be 600+ (I love high dosed eq). Drop eq 1wk brofe the test
Hcg should be 500 2-3x wk
Pct should add in clomid not just nolva
Adex on cycle is good.

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[MANotaur]

K what I think...

Cycles should be 10-12 wks... I don't like long cycles.
500test is fine but IMO EQshould be 600+ (I love high dosed eq). Drop eq 1wk brofe the test
Hcg should be 500 2-3x wk
Pct should add in clomid not just nolva
Adex on cycle is good.

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Why clomid + nolva? Ive always thought with serms it should be 1 or the other not both?

 

[usealittle]

For me.... Nolva just didn't cut it, when I would pct. For me clomid worked better then nolva did, but that's me

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[MANotaur]

oh ok, Nolva worked wonders for me. I was @ 90% pre cycle levels the day after my PCT ended so it was wonderous...ive never used clomid but i figure if Nolva is workin for me why mess with it...i heard that torem works really well too

 

[Cmaestas10]

K what I think...

Cycles should be 10-12 wks... I don't like long cycles.
500test is fine but IMO EQshould be 600+ (I love high dosed eq). Drop eq 1wk brofe the test
Hcg should be 500 2-3x wk
Pct should add in clomid not just nolva
Adex on cycle is good.

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So just run the same cycle as last time but up the EQ dose? I have clomid and was gonna use it concurrently with Nolva but I heard Nolva is fine on it's own but I guess I could run both to be safe. Do you think dieting down a little right before the cycle is a good idea. I'm worried about retention, but I figured a 6 week diet wouldn't do much harm as long as my calories aren't too low. Was thinking 10-15% below maintainence. I also considered dieting for the first few weeks on cycle. Thoughts?

 

[usealittle]

On cycle you can do whatever you like.... Diet with test will make it easyer to keep muscle you have while building some at the same time. With the EQ all I say is keep protein high and eat clean and the drugs will do the rest.

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[Cmaestas10]

On cycle you can do whatever you like.... Diet with test will make it easyer to keep muscle you have while building some at the same time. With the EQ all I say is keep protein high and eat clean and the drugs will do the rest.

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Thanks man. Sounds like a plan to me.