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    Third Time's a charm (40day cycle round 3)


    Title says it all I'm running another 40day which will be an all out bulker. Also I will update at the end of every week. Here's the outline of the cycle it's like art appreciate it. LOL Ok the T.B and boldenone are trasndermals and the 4HT cyp is being pinned. I'm testing two products during this one, the topicals I"m using Stryders new transdermal mix, I already commented on how well it did at dissolving the powders now I'm looking for absorbtion, drying time, dryness of skin ect.. I'm also testing Designer Supps new 7OH transdermal so I will comment on that specifically as well (mainly be commenting on cortisol suppression effects and keeping fat gain during PCT down to a minimum)

    OK so start your engines the green flag has been waved and we're off. 6 AM was the start time at which my weight was 215lbs at about 11% bf.

    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 75mg 4HT Cyp 200mg
    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 75mg
    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 75mg
    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 62.5mg 4HT Cyp 200mg
    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 62.5mg
    T.B. 175mg, Dbol 62.5mg
    T.B. 120mg, Dbol 50mg 4HT Cyp 200mg
    T.B. 120mg, Dbol 50mg
    T.B. 120mg, Dbol 50mg
    T.B. 120mg, Dbol 50mg 4HT Cyp 200mg
    T.B. 120mg, Boldenone 100mg Dbol 25mg
    T.B. 120mg, Boldenone 100mg Dbol 25mg
    T.B. 100mg, Boldenone 100mg Dbol 25mg 4HT Cyp 200mg ,
    T.B. 100mg, Boldenone 100mg, M4OHN 24mg
    T.B. 100mg, Boldenone 100mg, M4OHN 24mg
    T.B. 100mg, Boldenone 100mg, M4OHN 24mg, Armidex 1.0mg
    T.B. 75mg, Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 24mg Adex 1.0mg
    T.B 75mg, Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 24mg, Adex 0.5mg
    T.B 75mg, Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 24mg
    T.B 50mg, Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 24mg, Adex 0.5mg
    T.B 50mg, Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 24mg
    Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 44mg, Adex 0.5mg
    Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 44mg
    Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 44mg, Adex 0.5mg
    Boldenone 175mg, M4OHN 44mg
    Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 44mg, Adex 0.5mg,
    Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 44mg
    Boldenone 120mg, M4OHN 44mg, Adex 0.5mg,
    Boldenone 100mg, M4OHN 44mg
    Boldenone 100mg, M4OHN 44mg, Adex 0.5mg,
    Boldenone 75mg, M4OHN 44mg
    Boldenone 75mg, M4OHN 60mg, Adex 0.5mg,
    Boldenone 50mg, M4OHN 60mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg
    Boldenone 50mg, M4OHN 60mg, Adex 0.5mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg
    Boldenone 50mg, M4OHN 60mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg
    M4OHN 60mg, Adex 0.5mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg
    M4OHN 60mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg
    M4OHN 60mg, Adex 0.5mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg
    M4OHN 60mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg
    M4OHN 60mg, Adex 0.5mg, Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA POST CYCLE BEGINS
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA Adex 0.5mg
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA Adex 0.5mg
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 60mg, ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg Nolva 60mg, ZMA Adex 0.5mg
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 400mg, Nolva 40mg, ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 300mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA Adex 0.5mg
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA
    Lean Xtreme Trans. 200mg, Nolva 40mg, , ZMA
    Nolva 20mg, ZMA
    Nolva 30mg, ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 30mg, , ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 30mg, , ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 30mg, ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 30mg, , ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 20mg, , ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 20mg, , ZMA, Creatine (Loading Phase)
    Nolva 20mg, , ZMA, Creatine10g
    Nolva 10mg, , ZMA, Creatine 10g
    Nolva 10mg, , ZMA, Creatine 10g
    Nolva 10mg, , ZMA, Creatine 10g
    Nolva 10mg, , ZMA, Creatine 10g
    Creatine 10g, ZMA
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    damn, you wrote the plan out didn't you. looks great, i'm gonna start trying short cycles with short esters for a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chasec
    damn, you wrote the plan out didn't you. looks great, i'm gonna start trying short cycles with short esters for a change.
    Sure did, you spend months on cycle busting your ass in the gym eating foods that arent' the best tasting, so why would you only spend an hour creating your blueprint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strateg0s
    Subscribing to this one. Looks good.
    Same here - good luck w/ this one jminis
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    Thanks for the support fella's. Ok today is day 8 and things are going well. If your reading this I'm sorry to pull you away from your superdrol threads so I won't be long. LOL

    Right now I'm feeling like dog piss as this is about the time I get the "test flu" from the TB. Same with the last two cycles right at about a week when my body starts to shutdown natural production and rely on the external test I get very achy and lethargic then in two days I'm like a beast. LOL

    I forgot to weigh myself today but I think I'm up a few lbs so far and let me say I had some weird pumps and pains in my right forearm and my right knee due to the dbol being so high. It felt like water was pumped directly into those area's. It would happen if my knee or arm was bent for an extended period of time. Very weird and painful

    Anyway I will weigh in tomorrow and post it. You can now go back to posting about superdrol.
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    subscribing. Good luck on the rest of your cycle.
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    Ok weighed in today. I started last Monday so it's been a week and a day. Remember starting weight was 215lbs, drum roll please.......Weight 220.5 lbs! So far so good.

    On a side note I feel like total ass again today. If history has taught me anything I should feel better tomorrow and great by thurs. Ok till next week, over and out.
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    Ok end of week 2. My weight is right around 221lbs. I expected this as I've dropped some water (ended dbol) and implemented nolva at 10mg/day due to a gyno issue. I have to say I look bigger then last week so some more muscle came on and some water left.

    Other notes: Nutz are waiving bye bye lol and acne is begining to rear it's ugly head. As a result I think Penetrate is working rather well. As far as cons go about Penetrate so far the only things I see is it leaves my skin really dry compared to TGEL, also it takes a little more time to apply as I load it into an oral syringe for accurated dosing.

    Hopefully I can get some picks up by the end. I don't have a digital camera right now so I'll see if the pics I take over christmas can incorporate some body shots and i can just get the photos on the CD.

    Any questions feel free but for now over and out till next monday. later J
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    J, I see you are using Stryder's new Penetrate. How many grams of T.B. and Bold did you put in the bottles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806
    J, I see you are using Stryder's new Penetrate. How many grams of T.B. and Bold did you put in the bottles?
    Yeah I'm testing it for him. I split the 8oz bottle up into two. So I have 2 bottles of 4oz. One with 10g of Test base, and the other with 10g of Boldenone Base. So basically 20g in the 8oz, I could of easily put more in each especially the Test base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    Yeah I'm testing it for him. I split the 8oz bottle up into two. So I have 2 bottles of 4oz. One with 10g of Test base, and the other with 10g of Boldenone Base. So basically 20g in the 8oz, I could of easily put more in each especially the Test base.
    Cool! Thanks a ton for the info. I ordered several myself and want to do this same thing. 21 days TB and 25 BB...correct?
    And those are absorbed mg? What is your actual dosage on the 175mg days? About 476mg/400mg?
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    stryder, he owns nutraplanet right? If thats correct, does he sell this new dermal yet? Or are you testing it before the release?
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    The only argument I offer is that shorter cycle gains are harder to keep. Having said that, I am going to do a 8 week cycle of all bases. 2 injections a day.
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    I haven't worked out all the details yet. I'll post it when I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    LOL Ok the T.B and boldenone are trasndermals and the 4HT cyp is being pinned. I'm testing two products during this one, the topicals I"m using Stryders new transdermal mix, I already commented on how well it did at dissolving the powders now I'm looking for absorbtion, drying time, dryness of skin ect..
    How is it?

    I'm really excited on the idea of a boldenone trans
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    Okay sorry I missed my update last week but I've had a busy and stressful week with work, holiday, ect. Anyway I haven't been able to eat as much as I would have liked but did the best I could under my current circumstances. Anyway I'm still plugging away and I'm just about 28 days in out of my 40.

    Also I'll be starting sledges 7oh transdermal soon so stay tuned for updates on that

    As for the NutraPlanets trans mix it's going well, I feel absorbtion is good but would def be even better with DMSO added. Do I feel it's as good as TGEL's absorbtion, no, but keep in mind I didn't add DMSO. How do I come to this conclusion, I feel I need to apply more then I expected to see the results I want, simple as that, I know my body.

    All and all Im' hitting the weights harder then ever so we'll see what we can do with the last two weeks of the cycle.

    Overall I'm up about 7lbs with no fat gain (i actually think I leaned out a little) with veins poppin (thanks boldenone)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    As for the NutraPlanets trans mix it's going well, I feel absorbtion is good but would def be even better with DMSO added. Do I feel it's as good as TGEL's absorbtion, no, but keep in mind I didn't add DMSO. How do I come to this conclusion, I feel I need to apply more then I expected to see the results I want, simple as that, I know my body.
    I wonder why no one make a transdermal with DMSO...
    I really hope the final version of Stryder Penetration will have it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    I wonder why no one make a transdermal with DMSO...
    I really hope the final version of Stryder Penetration will have it.
    I think it's because of legal reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    I think it's because of legal reasons.
    Correct. I remember when Chemo first put out the T-Gel, the dmso had to be separate from the transdermal, and of course only used for "cleaning" purposes. I believe it is not legal as a penetration enhancer, or in topical applications... something like that. Ashame it spilled into so many people's tderms.
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    Keep us updated J.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrKonman
    Correct. I remember when Chemo first put out the T-Gel, the dmso had to be separate from the transdermal, and of course only used for "cleaning" purposes. I believe it is not legal as a penetration enhancer, or in topical applications... something like that. Ashame it spilled into so many people's tderms.
    ooh, i get it now
    uhmmm and what if the gel is sold as cleaning spray?
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    Lemelange sells USP DMSO cheap. Just pick up some and add it to the Penetrate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lozgod
    The only argument I offer is that shorter cycle gains are harder to keep. Having said that, I am going to do a 8 week cycle of all bases. 2 injections a day.
    Test Base
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    Boldenone base

    I haven't worked out all the details yet. I'll post it when I do.
    Most people will say opposite. Alot of weight added to your frame in a short period of time is hard to keep. Diet has to be perfect as is training and rest. Smaller gains don't require as much meticulous detail. 3 or 4l bs here and there are easeir to maintain IMO and add up quick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806
    Lemelange sells USP DMSO cheap. Just pick up some and add it to the Penetrate.
    Yeah, I will end to do so.
    I wonder how Penetrate compares to T-Gel and to the upcoming new Avant carrier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Yeah, I will end to do so.
    I wonder how Penetrate compares to T-Gel and to the upcoming new Avant carrier.
    I think Penetrate is the old Avant formula. I don't know what the new avant will consist of?? With DMSO, I think Penetrate is as good as T-gel. Basically the same except T-gel is a lotion and thicker.
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    Most people will say opposite. Alot of weight added to your frame in a short period of time is hard to keep. Diet has to be perfect as is training and rest. Smaller gains don't require as much meticulous detail. 3 or 4l bs here and there are easeir to maintain IMO and add up quick.

    I agree. Less for your body to deal with.
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    Ok time for another update, well I"m almost done today was supposed to be my last day but I have a little m4ohn left in the bottle so I'm gonna finish it, probably last me till the end of the week.

    Whats new?
    Well I started Designer Supps new 7oh transdermal which I'm testing. I can't report on any spot reduction as I'm not really doing any cardio and I'm eating like 4000cals so no hope for that. I do feel as though it's blunting cortisol already and I've only been on it a week. I'm up to 300mg right now and planned on going up to 400mg but my joints are already achy so I doubt i will. 300mg is plenty maybe even too high for me. This stuff blunts cortisol like a mofo, it feels like I'm running winny,LOL

    Anyway next time I post I'll be in PCt and instead of running the creatine I'll be running CEX from VPX.

    I'd like to give a shout out to n4cer thanks bro u know what for. Take care, J
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    Ok quick update. As of now I'm 4 days into PCT, everything is going well and sledges 7oh dermal (lean extreme) is working great. I took it up to 300mg and can def tell the difference, in a good way. I'll update my weight as all at the end of the week, just wanted to give you guys a little heads up.

    Overall I ended my cycle at 221 solid about the same bf%. I'm looking to keep all 6lbs so we'll see. I know it's not much but that's around what I was shooting for, I could of gained more but I take adex to keep water to a minimum so that weight is solid.

    I'll keep you guys posted through PCT especially on how well I think the 7oh dermal is going.
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    sweet, i've got high hopes for this compound. hope it works well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dg806
    Most people will say opposite. Alot of weight added to your frame in a short period of time is hard to keep. Diet has to be perfect as is training and rest. Smaller gains don't require as much meticulous detail. 3 or 4l bs here and there are easeir to maintain IMO and add up quick.
    Thats what I said. Short cycle gains are hard to keep.
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    Ok another quick update it's now about a full week into PCT and I feel good. So far haven't lost a pound and the 7OH dermal is working well.

    I don't know if I"ll go up to 400mg as planned as I'm really getting achy joints, so it's def doing it's job with blunting cortisol. I can't really comment on it's fat burning capabilities because I'm eating so much food. Also I want to note that sex drive is almost normal again. Usually for about 2 weeks in PCT my drive is pretty low but not this time around. I"m ready to rock and in fact I did last night and the night before

    Haven't seen or noticed anything from the CEX yet but creatine usually takes 2 weeks with me to see a difference. That's it for now I'll keep this updated as I have with my other cycles through PCT so we can see "ACTUAL" weight gain not the bull**** 30lbs gains of water. Adios J
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    Ok update, two weeks down for PCT and i'm feeling good, nutz are back, libido is just about back, and the 7oh is gettin the job done very well.

    My weight: 223.7lbs Let's see I ended my cycle at 221 so that's right folks I'm up 2lbs in PCT. I attribute this to the CEX and the fact that I took last week off from training as I needed a break.
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    Ok 3 weeks PCT down 223lbs I've dropped the nolva and 7OH
    Final thoughts on 7OH transdermal, saaaaaweeeet. Hell Im' up 2lbs PCT what more can I say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    Final thoughts on 7OH transdermal, saaaaaweeeet. Hell Im' up 2lbs PCT what more can I say.
    Did you try the oral version before?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    Did you try the oral version before?
    No I was just testing sledges beta 7OH dermal. It worked very well, I also have Lean Xtreme which I will be using next PCT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jminis
    No I was just testing sledges beta 7OH dermal. It worked very well, I also have Lean Xtreme which I will be using next PCT.
    I believe the only difference is the amount and application distance of the doses with the trans.
    I prefer to go to the oral route and I have 2 LX bottles
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syr
    I believe the only difference is the amount and application distance of the doses with the trans.
    I prefer to go to the oral route and I have 2 LX bottles
    You won't be dissappointed
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