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    Most potent Pro Hormone--Going to do an experiment!


    Ok so today I got this idea, but I need to know what the most effective Pro Hormone is and which one has the highest bioavailability. As in, when you take 100mg of said PH, which one yields the most active steroid in your bloodstream?

    When I figure out which one is the best at that, I'm going to do a heavy Cycle of just that PH and PES Erase to keep estrogen low, then report back and maybe even do some before and after pics. I wanna see what kind of mass I can put on with just a PH! I've done 1 real AAS cycle so far, so it should be interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD
    Ok so today I got this idea, but I need to know what the most effective Pro Hormone is and which one has the highest bioavailability. As in, when you take 100mg of said PH, which one yields the most active steroid in your bloodstream?

    When I figure out which one is the best at that, I'm going to do a heavy Cycle of just that PH and PES Erase to keep estrogen low, then report back and maybe even do some before and after pics. I wanna see what kind of mass I can put on with just a PH! I've done 1 real AAS cycle so far, so it should be interesting.
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    superdrol

    dymethazine

    methylstenbolone

    do it or yore a *****
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    or black liver. if you can get your hands on it, i personally guarantee youll gain more than the other 3 i mentioned combined at 200mg/day

    its very rare to find it though, so good luck. the main ingredient is an isolated sperm of adonis mixed with the ores of a millenia old meteor in the mountains of belgum. pretty rare stuff, suposed to be 1000x more anabolic than test
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper
    or black liver. if you can get your hands on it, i personally guarantee youll gain more than the other 3 i mentioned combined at 200mg/day

    its very rare to find it though, so good luck. the main ingredient is an isolated sperm of adonis mixed with the ores of a millenia old meteor in the mountains of belgum. pretty rare stuff, suposed to be 1000x more anabolic than test
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbuick

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    oh thats right.

    point is...

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    Those are pro-steroids, I think hes actually looking for a pro-hormone which would be a compound that will convert into an active steroid in the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou321 View Post
    Those are pro-steroids, I think hes actually looking for a pro-hormone which would be a compound that will convert into an active steroid in the body.
    What's the difference? I'm looking for something that can be bought online, etc... Nothing that's "illegal". I know that they all don't get totally converted in the body because of limiting factors. I was asking which one was most effective at the conversion in the body. Any detailed info on the products you recommend would be very appreciated. Thanks!
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    asking to be spoon fed info on this siteis not a good idea
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper View Post
    asking to be spoon fed info on this siteis not a good idea
    How am I asking to be spoonfed? I'm asking for opinions on the best PH and I wanna test it out.
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    Black Liver is where it's at, but it's scarce.

    I did see Jonas post some vague updates on facebook the other day, so hopefully that's promising.
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    You all are diks LOL

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    I still have a bottle of Black Liver from the first run, waiting for the opportunity to crack it open.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    Black Liver is where it's at, but it's scarce.

    I did see Jonas post some vague updates on facebook the other day, so hopefully that's promising.

    Sad thing is I think PMS' web designer went on a spiritual walk about claiming to achieve enlightenment from Black Liver (which is pretty cool), but let their website a little unfinished.

    I wonder where that guy is now?
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    I second Phlex Magnum Supplements Black Liver. Hard to find these days with the reformulation still ongoing but truly amazing stuff. You'll never want again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Sad thing is I think PMS' web designer went on a spiritual walk about claiming to achieve enlightenment from Black Liver (which is pretty cool), but let their website a little unfinished.

    I wonder where that guy is now?
    No idea. The site and the lack of product are a joke.

    If it wasn't so good, I would've been done with that company years ago. However, they know they've got something good, so I just put up with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MidwestBeast View Post
    No idea. The site and the lack of product are a joke.

    If it wasn't so good, I would've been done with that company years ago. However, they know they've got something good, so I just put up with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    What's the difference? I'm looking for something that can be bought online, etc... Nothing that's "illegal". I know that they all don't get totally converted in the body because of limiting factors. I was asking which one was most effective at the conversion in the body. Any detailed info on the products you recommend would be very appreciated. Thanks!
    Many of the online "supps" ppl refer to as PHs are infact active steroids. I PH, is a compound that converts in the body into an active compound/steroid. Active steroids require no conversion thus not making them PHs. Most recommend superdrol as the strongest "ph" or over the counter anabolic. Id say they are about right, however it will be hard to find since the ban. Maybe look into boladrol or trenavar if superdrol cant be found.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawbreaker24 View Post
    M1t is king


    My instinct was to win, eliminate anyone who is in competion. Destroy my enemy, and move on without any kind of hesataion at all.
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    You Mean Methyl 1-D? I found a good deal on that. I think it may be the winner cus it's readily available. Researched some of the ingredients and they seem solid too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD

    You Mean Methyl 1-D? I found a good deal on that. I think it may be the winner cus it's readily available. Researched some of the ingredients and they seem solid too.
    No he means M1T.
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    M1T doesn't appear to be legal because it's not for sale online, at least at any legitimate retailers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    You Mean Methyl 1-D? I found a good deal on that. I think it may be the winner cus it's readily available. Researched some of the ingredients and they seem solid too.
    Nah, m1t still available in the UK


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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    M1T doesn't appear to be legal because it's not for sale online, at least at any legitimate retailers.
    Brother it's legit, trust me...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawbreaker24
    M1t is king

    My instinct was to win, eliminate anyone who is in competion. Destroy my enemy, and move on without any kind of hesataion at all.
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    Rat poison.

    Go with PmS Black Liver
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    Quote Originally Posted by BPjohn123 View Post
    Rat poison.

    Go with PmS Black Liver
    Well he asked for the most potent, and m1t is it...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jawbreaker24 View Post
    Brother it's legit, trust me...


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    I've heard so many bad things about online purchasing from overseas sources though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    You Mean Methyl 1-D? I found a good deal on that. I think it may be the winner cus it's readily available. Researched some of the ingredients and they seem solid too.
    M1T and Superdrol which are both strong and both have their own nasty sides, and are both illegal.
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    Well he asked for the most potent, and m1t is it...
    He also asked for legal which he reiterated a few times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    M1T and Superdrol which are both strong and both have their own nasty sides, and are both illegal. He also asked for legal which he reiterated a few times.


    Thank you! Yeah guys, I just want to know what product has some solid science behind it that would be available at a normal U.S. online retailer. Like I said, best one i found online researching is Methyl 1-D. Whatever I decide to experiment with I'm going to use a pretty high dose. The whole idea I wanna test out is: how ridiculously high of a dose do you have to take of a PH to see steroid like results. And like I said, I plan to take PES erase to keep any possible gyno, etc. at bay.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    Thank you! Yeah guys, I just want to know what product has some solid science behind it that would be available at a normal U.S. online retailer. Like I said, best one i found online researching is Methyl 1-D. Whatever I decide to experiment with I'm going to use a pretty high dose. The whole idea I wanna test out is: how ridiculously high of a dose do you have to take of a PH to see steroid like results. And like I said, I plan to take PES erase to keep any possible gyno, etc. at bay.
    Just remember that higher doses doesn't always mean that it'll make it more effective. For example, I loved epistane at 30 mg but whenever I went much more over that I would have a compounding increase in nasty side effects that negated the worth of any minimal extra gains. Two PH's that I still love and think are great with very little sides are P-Mag and Protodrol, both run at 100 mg for optimal dosing scheme for myself. Another good option is M-LMG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjameskjf View Post
    Just remember that higher doses doesn't always mean that it'll make it more effective. For example, I loved epistane at 30 mg but whenever I went much more over that I would have a compounding increase in nasty side effects that negated the worth of any minimal extra gains. Two PH's that I still love and think are great with very little sides are P-Mag and Protodrol, both run at 100 mg for optimal dosing scheme for myself. Another good option is M-LMG.
    Of those three, which would you say is the most effective as a stand alone?
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    Guys. Is noone really gonna explain this? The bioavailability of 100mg is irrelavent. Thats a really weird way to measure strength. 100g of protein is one REALLY big meal. 100g of caffeine, would kill you. See my point? 100mg halodrol is a high but reasonably safe dose if worked up to. 100 mg superdrol, well, whens the funeral again? Its really foolish to look for the biggest baddest strongest thing u can get just to "try it out". THIS is why steroids are illegal. This right here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD

    Thank you! Yeah guys, I just want to know what product has some solid science behind it that would be available at a normal U.S. online retailer. Like I said, best one i found online researching is Methyl 1-D. Whatever I decide to experiment with I'm going to use a pretty high dose. The whole idea I wanna test out is: how ridiculously high of a dose do you have to take of a PH to see steroid like results. And like I said, I plan to take PES erase to keep any possible gyno, etc. at bay.
    Seriously? Freakin erase for a super harsh intentionally high dosed cycle?! Am i the only one seeing this?!?!?! Erase is a GREAT product dont get me wrong. But dude. Youre insane for doing this. More insane for thinking you have the knowledge needed. 5 minutes and google would tell you (other than dont be this stupid) that you deff need nolva and letro/arimidex on hand. The way youre talking, id go with the former. As its far stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828
    Guys. Is noone really gonna explain this? The bioavailability of 100mg is irrelavent. Thats a really weird way to measure strength. 100g of protein is one REALLY big meal. 100g of caffeine, would kill you. See my point? 100mg halodrol is a high but reasonably safe dose if worked up to. 100 mg superdrol, well, whens the funeral again? Its really foolish to look for the biggest baddest strongest thing u can get just to "try it out". THIS is why steroids are illegal. This right here.
    actually this isnt why steroids are illegal. theyre illegal because athletes use them as unfair performance enhancements and they are listed under class III controlled drugs.
    HOWEVER, this right here is exactly the reason every prohormone on the market is getting banned next year. good job op, youre fukin smart

    go run 100mg superdrol stacked with 100mg dmz for 8 weeks and review how you feel. no oral will give you better gains. but complete irreversible shutdown, or complete liver ailure is completely possible

    btw, apologies for being a smartass grandroid, all flame to op intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThunderHumper

    actually this isnt why steroids are illegal. theyre illegal because athletes use them as unfair performance enhancements and they are listed under class III controlled drugs.
    HOWEVER, this right here is exactly the reason every prohormone on the market is getting banned next year. good job op, youre fukin smart

    go run 100mg superdrol stacked with 100mg dmz for 8 weeks and review how you feel. no oral will give you better gains. but complete irreversible shutdown, or complete liver ailure is completely possible

    btw, apologies for being a smartass grandroid, all flame to op intended
    No apology necessary. You said what i was trying to say just smarter lol. Its rediculous is it not? I mean damn run the things if you wanna but you sound like a 16 yr old that just got a bowflex for xmas and doesnt wanna learn about anything, just wants to get big as fast as possible with no consideration for the rammifications of strong, overdosed prohormone use.
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    You guys have it all wrong. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ORAL STEROID. I'm looking to see what anabolic power can be yielded with a 100% legal PH!! No superdrol, no nolvadex... Nothing I have to buy overseas. I'm not going to kill myself? I'm not an idiot. Whatever product I decide on I'm going to start with the maximum reccomended dose, then possibly bump it up just a bit. Jeez you guys blow stuff way out of proportion sometimes. I've done my fair share of research. Obviously any REAL AAS would be much better. This is just for fun while I'm not on any AAS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    You guys have it all wrong. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ORAL STEROID. I'm looking to see what anabolic power can be yielded with a 100% legal PH!! No superdrol, no nolvadex... Nothing I have to buy overseas. I'm not going to kill myself? I'm not an idiot. Whatever product I decide on I'm going to start with the maximum reccomended dose, then possibly bump it up just a bit. Jeez you guys blow stuff way out of proportion sometimes. I've done my fair share of research. Obviously any REAL AAS would be much better. This is just for fun while I'm not on any AAS.
    bro. ph's ARE ORAL STEROIDS. where have you been?

    just because its legal doesnt mean it isnt an oral steroid. and DEFINITELY doesnt mean its safe. cmon now. for the sake of all us others who do our research and do things responsibly, please stop before you die, get put on the news, and we have another batch of banned substances that are reasonably safe if used correctly. what youre doing it NOT correct use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD View Post
    You guys have it all wrong. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ORAL STEROID. I'm looking to see what anabolic power can be yielded with a 100% legal PH!! No superdrol, no nolvadex... Nothing I have to buy overseas. I'm not going to kill myself? I'm not an idiot. Whatever product I decide on I'm going to start with the maximum reccomended dose, then possibly bump it up just a bit. Jeez you guys blow stuff way out of proportion sometimes. I've done my fair share of research. Obviously any REAL AAS would be much better. This is just for fun while I'm not on any AAS.
    youve done your research? yet youre against nolva? lol. you havent done any legitimate research.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandroid828 View Post
    bro. ph's ARE ORAL STEROIDS. where have you been?

    just because its legal doesnt mean it isnt an oral steroid. and DEFINITELY doesnt mean its safe. cmon now. for the sake of all us others who do our research and do things responsibly, please stop before you die, get put on the news, and we have another batch of banned substances that are reasonably safe if used correctly. what youre doing it NOT correct use.
    It converts to an active steroid, doesn't start out as one. I'm not against nolva. SERM just like clomid. I know what it's purpose is. The whole point of this is to see what legal, easily accessible product can give good results. That's all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinD
    You guys have it all wrong. I'M NOT LOOKING FOR AN ORAL STEROID. I'm looking to see what anabolic power can be yielded with a 100% legal PH!! No superdrol, no nolvadex... Nothing I have to buy overseas. I'm not going to kill myself? I'm not an idiot. Whatever product I decide on I'm going to start with the maximum reccomended dose, then possibly bump it up just a bit. Jeez you guys blow stuff way out of proportion sometimes. I've done my fair share of research. Obviously any REAL AAS would be much better. This is just for fun while I'm not on any AAS.
    Dumb post is dumb.
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