Why the fcuk do people keep putting logs here.
Anytime. Definitely still worth it IMO, especially if you run it for a week or two after you stop the DMZ/LMG.
Update: ordered some stano and picked up Aromasin. I got a call back from the surgery center i talked to the other day about if i needed to still worry about gyno after getting surgery after puberty induced gyno. The nurse i spoke with was trying to get me to admit i was using something i shouldnt so i said i was using d asparatic acid, a natural test booster with very low chances of gyno but wanted to just make sure i had my glands removed. She replied that there is a lot of glands and not all were removed like what they do with females who have breast cancer. She also said i need to be cautious that i can still get it again.
So long story short i ordered some aromasin to take 12.5mg ED or EOD. do i taper off or run through pct with same dose? And im still curious to know if you guys recommend i add in just one cap of erase ED on cycle and leave 2 caps per day for 2nd week of pct. Thanks. Ill update again after workout tonight. nothing diff. just yet. Nice pumps maybe a bit more pronounced, could be all mental.
I haven't read anything suggesting otherwise. Its mild, but it should definitely keep you shut down until you start PCT.
Aromasin and Erase are Suicide AIs. Using both at the same time would likely dry you out too much and also too much AI can decrease gains.
I have read Aromasin raises blood levels of Insulin-like Growth Factor (IGF) and also frees up more test, therefore Aromasin is my preference.
From reading and experience, 6.25 to 12.5 ED is the common dose, unless using high levels of test in the cycle.
12.5 ED appears to be a safe starting point, although suggest pay attention to your joints and nips and then adjust accordingly.
Typically I eventually dry out at 12.5 ED and decrease to 6.25 ED.
Good luck, look forward to some AWESOME GAINS!
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Since I still have gyno to be worried of developing I'm almost tempted to stay in the 60mg range with the lmg. I'd say if ran it solo I would work up to 75ish range but since I have dmz ran with it I'm sure ill see good results none the less. Is 60mg of lmg enough to get some of the good effects like increased recovery or should I hit 75?
This f'ing guy is a real ball buster!!!Originally Posted by jbryand101b
You would probably still see somewhat decent effects from 60mg of LMG, but I think 75 would be a sweeter spot, and not increase your chances of gyno too much. Never used aromasin, so can't help ya out on that brotha.
Question:"taper off the aromasin a week or two into pct about when I throw in erase? Or stop aromasin cold on last day of cycle."
IMO stop aromasin cold on last day of cycle, as a real Serm is sufficient to prevent rebound.
Note: I have read the serm Nolva weakens AI effectiveness.
If you run the AI and then stop could turkey at the end of PCT, the SERM is not present to prevent rebound, which means possible post PCT Gyno. Although some people successfully tapor the AI through PCT preventing rebound. But personally I see not much point to AI during the PCT as the goal is to get your levels back to normal ASAP (with real serm). AI is typically only used when an aromatizing compound being administered, which typically is not ocurring in PCT.
I hope that helps.
Have you noticed any hair shedding or scalp itch so far? Genetics show I won't have mpb even past 50+ but I am prone on cycle so I am curious if you have noticed anything!