GotHuge's Quest to GetHuge: AndroMass+AndroLean+Test+EQ Cycle

[GotHuge]

Goal: Gain as much lean body mass and strength as possible.

Cycle:

Weeks 1-8 --> AndroMass V3 KICKSTART @ 6 caps ED upon awakening
Weeks 10-17 --> AndroLean V3 @ 6 caps ED upon awakening
Weeks 1-16 --> Test Cyp 450 mg/week (1.8 CC/week = 0.9CC/pin)
Weeks 1-16 --> EQ 900 mg/week (3.1 CC/week = 1.55CC/pin)
Weeks 1-16 --> HCG 750 iu /week (1.5CC/week = 0.75CC/pin or 375iu/pin)
Weeks 1-16 --> Arimidex 1mg EOD (before bed)
Weeks 1-16 --> Dutasteride 0.5mg EOD (I am prone to baldness) (before bed; on the night not taking Arimidex)

Notes:
-Gear injections will be intramuscular; every mon/thurs.
-HCG injections will be sub-cutaneous; every mon/thurs after gear injections.
-Dermatherm target throughout cycle (minimize fat gain)
-Running toco-8 @ 1 scoop ED along with minoxidil+AA 5%, and Nizoral 2%.
-Dropping the dutasteride once i stop administering AAS.
-Have taurine/cycle support supps on hand in case of back pumps/lethargy.

ESTER CLEARING PERIOD (after last pin) Weeks 17-18:
Day 1-7: AL 6 caps ED + 500iu HCG ED + arimidex 1mg ed
Day 8-14: nothing

PCT: Weeks 19-22
Clomid 100/100/50/50 (Morning upon awakening)
Nolva 60/40/20/20 (Morning upon awakening; 5 min after clomid)
Primordial Performance TRS V2:
*Sustain-Alpha LV (weekdays only) 5ml at meal 1 then 5ml again at final meal.
*TCF-1 right after Sustain-Alpha LV But including weekends. 5ml twice/ED
*Toco-8 1 scoop ED at meal 1
*EndoAmpMax 1 scoop ED (1 hour pre-workout or upon awakening)

Notes (from Primordial Performance):
• The stack may be continued for as long as the user desires.
• Take Sustain Alpha Liqua-Vade anytime of the day, with or without food.
• Take 5mls of TCF-1 twice daily with or without food.
• Take Toco-8 with or without food (at 1 scoop daily, Toco-8 will last 60 days).
• Take 1 scoop of EndoAmp Max 1 hour before exercise or in the morning on non-workout days.



DIET:

I am going to switch up my diet, as i get bored with the same food. However, i keep my macros approximately the same.

DIET KEY

Vegetables=
Broccoli /Asparagus/Lettuce of all kinds/Mushrooms/Sprouts/Peppers/Spinach/Celery/Cabbage/Cucumbers, etc.

Protein=
T-Bone/London broil/Tri Tip/Chicken Breast/Turkey Breast/Ground Chicken /Ground Turkey/Ground Beef less than 10% Fat/Buffalo/Tuna/Ahi/Tuna in water/salmon/any kind of fish/Egg Whites/Whole egg, etc.

Carbs=
Whole wheat pasta/Brown Rice or White rice post training/Sweet Potatoes/White potatoes post training/Ezekiel Bread/Oatmeal/Yams/Sugar free Muesli/Quinoa/Banana/Berries /Grapefruit in Am or Pre-training, etc.

Bridge=
Food intake in between meals.

Diet Routine:

AM (Upon Awakening):
-6 caps AndroMass or AndroLean
-Injections if its a pin day
-Minoxidil/AA 5% applied topically
-Acne Wash for that damn acne..

Meal 1:
30 grams protein from egg whites + yolk
50 grams carbs
1 serving Animal Omega
1 serving Animal Pak

Meal 2 (30 Min PRE WORKOUT):
40 grams protein Whey Protein Shake
35 grams carbs Vitargo
Creatine(Con-Cret)
BCAA(Atomic 7)

Meal 3(POST WORKOUT):
32 grams protein/83 grams carbs (Infinite Mass)
Creatine(Con-Cret)
BCAA(Atomic 7)

Bridge 1:
30 grams protein/10 grams carbs (OhYeah! Protein bar)

Meal 4:
30 grams protein
30 grams carbs
1 cup Vegetables
1 serving Animal Omega

Meal 5:
30 grams protein
30 grams carbs
1 cup Vegetables
1 serving Toco-8

Bridge 2:
30 grams protein/10 grams carbs (OhYeah! Protein bar)

Meal 6:
30 grams protein, preferably chicken
1 teaspoon Peanut Butter

Meal 7 (BEFORE SLEEP):
Dutasteride or Arimidex taken w/ water
35 grams protein Whey Protein Shake

Macro Count
-Protein: approx. 300g+
-Carbs: approx. 250g+
-Fats: will vary, but every day i will have satisfied my EFA requirements (thanks to animal omega and the food i will be eating)



TRAINING:

MON: CHEST/TRICEPS
-Dumbbell bench press 6 reps x 4 sets last rep SLOW w/negative (alternate w/ barbell bench press every other week)
-Incline flies 6 reps x 4 sets last rep SLOW w/ negative
-Incline Bench Press 6 reps x 3 sets (alternate w/ dumbbell every other week)
-Skullcrushers 6 reps x 3 sets last rep SLOW
-Cable Overhead triceps extension 6 reps x 3 sets last rep SLOW w/held contraction
-Cable tricep extension 6 reps x 3 sets + dropset on last set
-Chest Dips (wide grip) 3 sets till failure
-Galileo Fly Machine high-rep burnout 3 sets (alternate w/ Cable Crossover burnout every other week)

TUES: BACK/BICEPS
-Lat Pulldowns 6 reps x 3 sets
-Deadlifts 6 reps x 4 sets
-Bent over barbell row 6 reps x 3 sets OR T-Bar Row + dropset on last set
-Lower Back ROM 6 reps x 4 sets
-Preacher Curl 6 reps x 4 sets finish SLOW w/ Negative + dropset on last set
-Hammer Curl 6 reps x 3 sets finish slow w/ negative
-DB Bicep Curl high-rep burnout 3 sets

WED: LEGS/CALVES
-Squats 6 reps x 4 sets
-Leg Press 6 reps x 4 sets
-Leg Curl 6 reps x 4 sets
-Glute machine 6 reps x 3 sets
-Calf machine till failure 3 sets
-Leg Extension high-rep burnout 3 sets

THURS: SHOULDERS/TRAPS
-DB shoulder press 6 reps x 4 sets
-Upright row superset w/ lat raises 6 reps x 3 sets
-Lying rear delt raises 6 reps x 4 sets
-Standing Scarecrow 6 reps x 3 sets
-Barbell Shrugs superset w/ front raise 6 reps x 4 sets
-Lat raises high-rep burnout 3 sets

FRI: ARMS(BICEPS/TRICEPS)
-Hammer Curls superset w/ cable tricep pulldown 6 reps x 3 sets
-Preacher Curls 6 reps x 4 sets SLOW w/negative
-Concentrated Bicep Curls superset w/ barbell French Press 6 reps x 3 sets
-Closegrip bench press 6 reps x 3 sets + dropset on last set
-Cable tricep extension 6 reps x 3 sets last rep SLOW w/ held contraction + neg
-Tricep Dips (close grip) 3 sets till failure
-Incline DB Curl high-rep burnout 3 sets

SAT: FULL BODY
-Squat 8 reps x 3 sets
-Deadlift 8 reps x 3 sets
-Clean and Jerk 8 reps x 3 sets
-Hip Abductor 8 reps x 3 sets
-Hip Adductor 8 reps x 3 sets
-Abs Machine 6 reps x 3 sets last rep SLOW + dropset on last set

SUN: REST DAY


Notes:
-I may switch up my training routine a little.
-For more Time Under Tension (TUT): do dropsets, negatives, forced reps, decrease your rest time, try burn-outs, increase the number of sets or reps, or do movements more slowly.
-Supersets: Performing 2 exercises back to back without a rest. The exercise could be for the same muscle group or agnostic muscle groups.
-Finishing your workout with high-rep isolation movements (burnouts) like biceps curls, triceps extensions, lateral raises, leg extensions, or hamstring curls is a great way to increase the overall blood flow to your muscles. This pump will give you a more defined appearance while you lift, but it also helps bring the necessary muscle-building nutrients to your muscles.

LET'S GET HUGE!

 

[GotHuge]

Starting Stats (10/15/12):
Height- 5'11
Weight- 176 lbs (please note this weight is inaccurate: the scale is off by 9-10 pounds. Unfortunately, this sh**ty scale is all i have access to, so ill use it as a reference point for weight gain)
BF- Haven't checked, Im guessing 13-14%

Starting Measurements (10/15/12):
Arms- 14.5" flexed(measured @ bicep peak); 13" regular
Quads- 23" (measured below nuts)
Calves- 15"
Waist- 34" (measured right below belly-button)
Forearms- 11.5" flexed; 11" regular

-This is my 2nd cycle; the 1st being a 10 week run of test c solo.
*I'll post updates periodically stat change, progression in workouts, as well as how I'm feeling overall.

 

[GotHuge]

10/15/12
-Started cycle
-Pinned gear @ lateral surface of thigh (my right leg)
-Pinned HCG into lower belly fat

I only got 3 hours of sleep since i was up last night working... today's workout went much weaker than usual. But i'll be getting a full night sleep from now on.

Chest/Tricep Workout
DB Bench Press: (last rep slow w/negative)
set1- 60 lbs x 6 reps
set2- 75 lbs x 6 reps
set3- 80 lbs x 6 reps
set4- 85 lbs x 6 reps

(DB) Incline Fly: All done w/ slow contraction & neg.
set1- 35 lbs x 6 reps
set2- 40 lbs x 6 reps
set3- 45 lbs x 6 reps
set4- 45 lbs x 6 reps

Incline Bench Press
set1- 115 lbs x 6 reps
set2- 135 lbs x 6 reps
set3- 145 lbs x 4 reps (failure @ rep 5)

Skullcrushers (all done w/ slow contraction)
set1- 50 lbs x 6 reps
set2- 60 lbs x 6 reps
set3- 80 lbs x 6 reps

DB Overhead Tricep Extension
set1- 65 lbs x 6 reps
set2- 70 lbs x 6 reps
set3- 75 lbs x 6 reps

Cable Tricep Extension (slow w/ held contraction for 3 secs)
set1- weightfactor 8 x 6 reps
set2- weightfactor 11 x 6 reps
set3- weightfactor 14 x 6 reps
+dropset w9 x 6 reps / w6 x 6 reps / w3 x 6 reps

Chest Dips (wide grip; till failure)
set1- 16 reps
set2- 18 reps
set3- 15 reps

Galileo Fly Burnout
set1- weightfactor 6 x 18 reps
set2- weightfactor 5 x 16 reps
set3- weightfactor 3 x 35 reps

Lifts suffered, Felt weak and like crap. I'm getting a full 8 hours sleep ED from now on. Looking forward to tomorrow

 

[PREracing25]

This is going to be awesome. Go after it. Great detail so far.

 

[technique88]

Been waiting for this one! In!

 

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[HereToStudy]

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[GotHuge]

10/16/12 Back/bicep workout

Lat pulldown (weightfactor20=290lbs)
set1- 6 reps x weightfactor10
set2- 6 reps x weightfactor13
set3- 6 reps x weightfactor15

Deadlift
set1- 6 reps x 205 lbs
set2- 6 reps x 275 lbs
set3- 6 reps x 275 lbs
set4- 4 reps x 300 lbs (reached failure)

Bent-over row (full 90º)
set1- 6 reps x 105 lbs
set2- 6 reps x 125 lbs
set3- 4 reps x 145 lbs (reached failure)

Lower back ROM
set1- 6 reps x weightfactor10
set2- 6 reps x weightfactor12
set3- 6 reps x weightfactor14
set4- 6 reps x weightfactor15

preacher curl (all SLOW contraction + negative on last rep)
set1- 6 reps x bar+40lbs
set2- 6 reps x bar+40lbs
set3- 4 reps x bar+60lbs (reached failure)
dropset: 6 reps x bar+40lbs / 6 reps x bar+20 lbs / 6 reps x bar

Hammer curl (all SLOW contraction w/ Negative on last rep)
set1- 6 reps x 30 lbs
set2- 6 reps x 35 lbs
set3- 6 reps x 40 lbs

Bicep curl burnout (45 sec rest between sets)
set1- 60 curls (30 each arm) x 15 lbs
set2- 60 curls x 12.5 lbs
set3- 60 curls x 10 lbs


Today felt better, i was fully rested. Triceps are sore from yesterday, but not my chest. Tomorrow is Legs day. Cant wait to start seeing results!

 

[HereToStudy]

Like the workout structure.

 

[GotHuge]

WED- LEGS/CALVES

Squats
6 reps x 135 lbs
6 reps x 225 lbs
6 reps x 275 lbs
4 reps x 295 lbs (reached failure)

-Leg Press
6 reps x 270 lbs
6 reps x 360 lbs
6 reps x 450 lbs
5 reps x 540 lbs (reached failure)

-Leg Curl (note:WF=weightfactor)
6 reps x WF 9
6 reps x WF 11
6 reps x WF 14
6 reps x WF 16

-Glute machine
6 reps x 112.5 lbs
6 reps x 125 lbs
6 reps x 150 lbs

-Calf machine (till failure)
20 reps x WF 8
15 reps x WF 11
10 reps x WF 14

-Leg Extension high-rep burnout 3 sets (45 sec break between sets)
WF 5 x 30 reps / WF 4 x 30 reps / WF 3 x 30 reps

My lower back is pretty sore from yesterday. not so much my biceps or upper back strangely... Shoulders tomorrow. Can't wait for the gear to kick in

 

[GotHuge]

Like the workout structure.

Thanks! On another note, does anyone here believe in site injections? As in: the specific muscle group you hit when you pin gets stronger, and quicker than others? I felt as if my quads were more "pumped" than usual, especially during the leg press. Maybe it's just in my head?

 

[HereToStudy]

Thanks! On another note, does anyone here believe in site injections? As in: the specific muscle group you hit when you pin gets stronger, and quicker than others? I felt as if my quads were more "pumped" than usual, especially during the leg press. Maybe it's just in my head?

I believe there is 80% placebo and 20% truth. Site injections will do a couple things. 1st, the most obvious stated is that the hormones are in that specific area, and can quickly hit receptors in the surrounding area. 2nd, depending on the amoutn of oil, slight stretching of the fascia can support growth in a similar fashion to site injected oils.

 

[technique88]

Thanks! On another note, does anyone here believe in site injections? As in: the specific muscle group you hit when you pin gets stronger, and quicker than others? I felt as if my quads were more "pumped" than usual, especially during the leg press. Maybe it's just in my head?

Testosterone doesn't work like that. It's not like the legs get more "test" your bloodstream absorbs it and it works through your endocrine system.

 

[GotHuge]

THURS-SHOULDERS/TRAPS

-DB shoulder press
52.5 lbs x 6 reps
60 lbs x 6 reps
70 lbs x 6 reps
75 lbs x 6 reps

-Upright row superset w/ lat raises
6 reps x 90 lbs / 10 reps x 15 lbs
6 reps x 100 lbs / 10 reps x 17.5 lbs
6 reps x 110 lbs / 8 reps x 20 lbs

-Machine rear delt
WF 8 x 6 reps
WF 11 x 6 reps
WF 14 x 6 reps
WF 17 x 6 reps

-Standing Scarecrow
15 lbs x 6 reps
20 lbs x 6 reps
25 lbs x 6 reps

-Barbell Shrugs superset w/ front raise (DB)
225 lbs x 6 reps & 15 lbs
245 lbs x 6 reps & 25 lbs
265 lbs x 6 reps & 30 lbs

-Lat raises high-rep burnout 3 sets (45 secs between sets)
25 reps x 12.5 lbs
20 reps x 10 lbs
20 reps x 7.5 lbs

Today's workout felt good. I feel a little bit bigger as well. Some kid today asked me "where i buy my protein" lol. Tomorrow is my favorite day: arms. Can't wait to hit it hard

 

[GotHuge]

I believe there is 80% placebo and 20% truth. Site injections will do a couple things. 1st, the most obvious stated is that the hormones are in that specific area, and can quickly hit receptors in the surrounding area. 2nd, depending on the amoutn of oil, slight stretching of the fascia can support growth in a similar fashion to site injected oils.

Interesting... i've read that as well about the fascia stretching, but its probably nothing actually noticeable like greg valentino status/synthol...

Testosterone doesn't work like that. It's not like the legs get more "test" your bloodstream absorbs it and it works through your endocrine system.

Good info. I was reading about acceptable sites to pin and some sound extremely painful... like the chest or calves... ouch

 

[GotHuge]

FRI-ARMS(BICEPS/TRICEPS)
(Note: I'm switching fridays to higher reps. I feel bored only doing 6RM's all week...)


-DB Hammer Curls
30 lbs x 10 reps
37.5 lbs x 8 reps
40 lbs x 7 reps

-Cable tricep pulldown (rope)
WF10 x 8 reps
WF12 x 8 reps
WF14 x 8 reps

-Preacher Curls SLOW w/negative on last rep (Weight is bar + ...)
25's x 8 reps
25's x 6 reps
25's x 6 reps

-Concentrated Bicep Curls
30lbs x 10 reps
37.5lbs x 6 reps
37.5lbs x 6 reps

Barbell French Press
70 lbs x 8 reps
80 lbs x 8 reps
90 lbs x 6 reps

-Closegrip bench press
135 lbs x 6 reps
135 lbs x 6 reps
155 lbs x 4 reps

-Tricep Dips (close grip) 3 sets till failure
15/18/18

-DB Curl high-rep burnout 3 sets
15lbs x 70 curls / 10 lbs x 60 curls / 7.5 lbs x 60 curls

Felt great today. Huge pump

 

[GotHuge]

SAT

I'm supposed to train today, but I'm far behind at work and need to spend the entire day catching up. I still feel a bit sore anyways. I will, however, train every saturday from now on.

Another note: I notice more and more hair falling out every day. Therefore, im upping the Dutasteride dosage to 2.5 mg ED until it slows, then tapering back down to 0.5 mg EOD. I should have frontloaded the dutasteride in the first place; im reading that it takes some time for it to build up in your system.

 

[msrider]

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[HereToStudy]

Interesting... i've read that as well about the fascia stretching, but its probably nothing actually noticeable like greg valentino status/synthol...

Synthol is a good comparison, because that is what synthol is set to do by design.

 

[GotHuge]

-This week's sites are the left/right glutes
-I'm super busy; sorry today's entry wont be as detailed as the previous ones...
**re-use the same workout structure as last week and apply it; Assume 6RM for everything unless i specifically wrote a failure set or if its a burnout set...

Monday Chest/tri workout
Db chest
70/80/85/90x 3 reps only (reached failure) +5lb/ea(10)

Incline fly
40/47.5/52.5/52.5 x 3 reps only (reached failure) +7.5lb/ea(15)

Machine chest press
Wf9/wf13/wf15 x 3 rep

Skullcrusher
60/80/90 +10

Cable tricep extension (rope)
Wf10/wf13/wf16 +2wfx 4 rep +DROP wf10/8/6

Cable overhead extension (rope)
Wf8/wf10/wf11

Galileo fly burnout
Wf7 x 25 reps +1 WF and more reps/ wf5 x 30 reps / wf3 x 40 reps


Today's workout was so-so.. I went up in weight in several workouts, but i only managed to do a few reps for most of those so i dont see it as anything to get excited about. My shoulders were in pain for some reason; therefore i didn't do incline bench or dips today..
How am i feeling overall? Normal; i didnt feel anywhere near as pumped as friday, and i don't feel 'on' yet. I guess that's what you have to deal with when messing with long esters
I will weigh in tomorrow to track progress

 

[HereToStudy]

Give the esters time. Nice to see some increases up there though.

 

[GotHuge]

Tues- Back/Bi


Lat pulldown
wf11 x 6 reps
wf14 x 6 reps
wf16 x 5 reps +1 WF

Bent over Row
115 lbs x 6 reps
135 lbs x 6 reps
155 lbs x 5 reps +20
135 lbs x 6 reps (cooldown set)

Cable Seated Low row
Wf13 x 6 reps
wf15 x 6 reps
wf16 x 6 reps

Hyperextensions (bodyweight +...)
45 lbs x 15 reps
45 lbs x 15 reps
45 lbs x 15 reps

Preacher curl (slow contract +neg on last rep)
Bar+40 lbs x 6 reps
bar+50 lbs x 6 reps
bar+60 lbs
Dropset b+40 (only 4 rep) /b+20 (6 reps)/b (6 reps

DB Hammer curl (slow contraction only;no negs)
35 lbs x 6 reps
37.5 lbs x 6 reps
40 lbs x 6 reps

+Some wrist curls (front and back)

Rear delt row burnout(45sec between)
Wf5 x 35 reps / wf6 x 30 reps / wf5 x 35 reps

Notes:
-I couldn't deadlift today as the entire 1st floor of my gym was closed for some kind of class.... therefore i changed up my workout to accomodate.
-The scale is on the 1st floor, so i couldn't weigh myself either.
-I went up 20 lbs in my bent over row, but keep in mind that last week i did my bent over rows AFTER my deadlift. So you cant really call that a huge gain since there were no deadlifts today

My forearms felt extremely hard and pumped today. Back and bi's felt good as well. It seems like i'm getting stronger; i think the AM might be starting to kick in.
On a final note, the hair shedding seemed to stop accelerating (i was shedding more and more hair every day, but now im shedding the same amount) and it seems im SLOWLY going towards losing less hair every day. Therefore im tapering the Dutasteride back down to 0.5mg. I hate the stuff, it gives me a phobia of hindering my gains/vascularity/being soft..

 

[GotHuge]

Im logging today from my phone... So sorry for poor formatting

Wed-legs/calves

Squat
135 lbs x 6 reps
225 lbs x 6 reps
275 lbs x 6 reps (did them cleaner than last time)

Leg press
270 lbs x 6 reps
360 lbs x 6 reps
450 lbs x 6 reps
540 lbs x 5 reps

Leg curl
Wf10 x 6 reps
Wf12 x 6 reps
Wf15 x 6 reps
Wf17 x 6 reps (+1 WF!)

Glute machine
125 lbs x 6 reps
137.5 lbs x 6 reps
150 Lbs x 6 reps (this is the max on the machine)

Calf machine (till failure)
25 reps x wf8
20 reps x wf12
10 reps x wf15 (+1 WF)

Leg extension hi rep burnout (45secsbetween)
Wf6 x 30 reps. (+1 WF)
Wf5 x 30 reps
Wf4 x 30 reps

Notes:
-today felt tired for some reason, i might add a preworkout like jack3d or C4 for days like today
-only had gains in the smaller exercises, no gains in the compound movements
-im going to log this weekly instead of daily as its pointless for a long ester cycle..

 

[HereToStudy]

The format was damn good for done on a phone lol.

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 10/27/12

I'm 12 days in to the cycle, have gained + 9 lbs so far! Of course, its mostly glycogen/water retention but i just like seeing the numbers go up My belly/waist size have not increased, so its safe to say im still around the same bodyfat as when i started, which is a huge plus.

Today i did my compound workout, I've went up + 15 lbs and more reps on my deadlift (from 300lbs x 4 reps to 315lbs x 5 reps), more reps on squats, and my form for both is MUCH better than previously. Quality of workouts are slowly but steadily increasing; i felt like i could have done even more on my deadlifts and the weights just feel lighter than before. Can't wait to see more progression throughout the cycle!

 

[HereToStudy]

Wow, very quick weight gain there.

 

[GotHuge]

Wow, very quick weight gain there.

Funny thing is, i dont look or feel any bigger... hahaha and i still haven't seen any physique changes..
Anyways i would like to pin my chest for this week's sites and my only question would be the volume of gear allowed at that site.... is it safe to inject 2.5 CC of gear w/ a 23g 1.5" needle into the pectoralis major?

 

[technique88]

Funny thing is, i dont look or feel any bigger... hahaha and i still haven't seen any physique changes..
Anyways i would like to pin my chest for this week's sites and my only question would be the volume of gear allowed at that site.... is it safe to inject 2.5 CC of gear w/ a 23g 1.5" needle into the pectoralis major?

I would personally not go above 1cc for the pecs, save the large volumes for larger muscles.

 

[ryansm]

Wow, very quick weight gain there.

^^^Very quick... nice to see

 

[HereToStudy]

I would personally not go above 1cc for the pecs, save the large volumes for larger muscles.

I would agree.

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 11/1/12
Hope everyone had a nice Halloween! The hangover from this morning was terrible lol. I rarely drink though, just did it for the hell of Halloween.

Anyways as far as progress, my strength is steadily increasing and i seem to look better. My overall lifts are all going up and i am feeling much more alive at the gym. I believe the Andromass has a synergistic effect with my gear, as i usually dont feel test (at this dose of 500mg) until around week 4... Please note that i am still recording every workout, but instead of posting every workout on a daily basis i am simply going to describe gains made. I will, however, post starting lifts and ending lifts for all exercises once the cycle is done. And of course.... before and after pics

I've gotten many compliments from friends recently and according to a buddy of mine, people are talking about me as "the buff dude from last night"
Cycle is going good so far.. I hope this EQ will give me some freaky vascularity!
Sweet

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 11/7/12

Im in week 4; 23 days in the cycle.w
Not as much progression as before, weight gain has slowed down... i have some good days and some bad days in the gym.
I'm questioning the legitimacy of my EQ.. because im not getting that 'hunger' feeling at all. No new vascularity as well. Some days i don't even have an appetite and have to shove food down my throat.. I would expect EQ @ 900mg/week to give some kind of signal at week 4? im just not feeling it..... Should i be more patient since it is a long ester? Or is there such a thing as non-responders to EQ? Ive never tried this drug before so any opinions on the matter would be much appreciated.

 

[technique88]

Update: 11/7/12

Im in week 4; 23 days in the cycle.w
Not as much progression as before, weight gain has slowed down... i have some good days and some bad days in the gym.
I'm questioning the legitimacy of my EQ.. because im not getting that 'hunger' feeling at all. No new vascularity as well. Some days i don't even have an appetite and have to shove food down my throat.. I would expect EQ @ 900mg/week to give some kind of signal at week 4? im just not feeling it..... Should i be more patient since it is a long ester? Or is there such a thing as non-responders to EQ? Ive never tried this drug before so any opinions on the matter would be much appreciated.

Yes more patience! Eq is a very long ester so I wouldn't start to expect to see things until week 6. That's why I've heard you should run eq long, at least 15 weeks.

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 11/14/12

In week 5, day 30 of the cycle.

I will weigh in at the end of the week.

Everything is beginning to click. Concentration in the gym is up. Workout quality is gradually increasing. Strength/size increased a bit. For example: today on deadlifts, went from repping 315 lbs (last week) to repping 335 lbs (today)
My body physique is beginning to transform. Most noticeable are shoulders, traps, and back.

The only downside is: My libido is completely SHOT. My vascularity is also down; even some veins i had before i started the cycle are now hidden. Im never agressive, which is unusual for me... The only upside is no new acne.. I strongly believe this is because the dutasteride lowered my DHT too much. I'm going to downgrade to propecia, 1mg/day. Any feedback or experience on this is appreciated.

-GH

 

[technique88]

Update: 11/14/12

In week 5, day 30 of the cycle.

I will weigh in at the end of the week.

Everything is beginning to click. Concentration in the gym is up. Workout quality is gradually increasing. Strength/size increased a bit. For example: today on deadlifts, went from repping 315 lbs (last week) to repping 335 lbs (today)
My body physique is beginning to transform. Most noticeable are shoulders, traps, and back.

The only downside is: My libido is completely SHOT. My vascularity is also down; even some veins i had before i started the cycle are now hidden. Im never agressive, which is unusual for me... The only upside is no new acne.. I strongly believe this is because the dutasteride lowered my DHT too much. I'm going to downgrade to propecia, 1mg/day. Any feedback or experience on this is appreciated.

-GH

My libido was completely shot on cycle too. I was looking forward to that massive sex drive from test but instead it left me with no interest in sex. For some they have a great sex drive and for others shutdown kills your libido no matter god much test is pumping through you.

How is your diet? Are you getting a lot of bloat?

 

[GotHuge]

My libido was completely shot on cycle too. I was looking forward to that massive sex drive from test but instead it left me with no interest in sex. For some they have a great sex drive and for others shutdown kills your libido no matter god much test is pumping through you.

How is your diet? Are you getting a lot of bloat?

Diet is consistent for the most part. Could be better though. Im still having trouble finishing my food, hopefully the EQ hunger will kick in as that would be extremely useful for my appetite.
No bloat that i can see. But ive read that AM has some AH in it, which is an anti-estrogen. Im also taking arimidex so i guess it makes sense to not see a noticeable bloat.

-GH

 

[msrider]

My libido was completely shot on cycle too. I was looking forward to that massive sex drive from test but instead it left me with no interest in sex. For some they have a great sex drive and for others shutdown kills your libido no matter god much test is pumping through you.

How is your diet? Are you getting a lot of bloat?

My sex drive went way up, Its weird how diff ppl are. My wife would joke that she wants me on more often. But rite now libido is down, but its week 12 and first week of pct. Still from sounds of some of you guys, I got lucky. Prolly not next cycle though

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 11/19/12

Week 6, day 1 into cycle

I thought it was going to be a bad day at the gym since i had no sleep... Boy was i wrong.

After 5 full weeks of feeling bloated and sluggish, Out of nowhere today i feel a HUGE anabolic rush through me.
-Agression went from literally nothing for 5 weeks to a sudden outburst. My muscles feel much harder.
-Fatigue has decreased: I have shorter rest times between sets
-Much more energy. I didn't want to leave the gym!
-Still no libido unfortunately, but i have a feeling it will come back sometime soon...
Even though i could not sleep at all last night, i still killed my workout. I think the esters hit their magic number at week 6

All lifts are up, Body image is transforming and i feel ON. Hopefully things will just keep getting better and better from this point on, cant wait for these upcoming weeks. I will post mid-cycle progress, measurements, and pics so stay tuned

-GH

 

[technique88]

6 weeks is where it's at bro. I knos everyone says 4 weeks to kick in but I honestly start feeling and seeing effects at 6 weeks. Once 6 weeks hit for me the weights didnt stand a chance lol. How is andro mass treating you?

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 11/27/12

Week 7, day 2 into cycle

The good
-Bodyweight increased an additional + 5 lbs
-Stretchmarks starting to form on my lats
-Slow but steady strength gains
-No visible bloat

The bad
-Still no libido unfortunately
-No new vascularity
-Sometimes i feel lethargic, other times i feel great. It's on and off

I got kind of lazy with my diet lately.. Ive been eating like sh** this past week (especially thanksgiving). Cleaning up diet again as of today.
Im also looking into getting bloodwork done... just to make sure im in good health and to check my endocrine system values.. will probably get this done around week 8 once i come off the andromass.

-GH

 

[GotHuge]

6 weeks is where it's at bro. I knos everyone says 4 weeks to kick in but I honestly start feeling and seeing effects at 6 weeks. Once 6 weeks hit for me the weights didnt stand a chance lol. How is andro mass treating you?

I'm really not sure which drug is causing which effect lol.. ive never ran AM before, never ran EQ either. That's the problem with running 3 different drugs hahah. But i'm going to say that i'm liking the AM so far! But i really do not think the claim made on the AM is true.... that 6 caps ED @ 1 week is equivalent to ~500mg test e/week. Because if i was running 1g of test a week, im pretty damn sure i would have felt it much sooner...
IMO the AM and actual test are 2 completely different compounds and cannot be compared to each other

-GH

 

[GotHuge]

Update: 12/10/12
Week 9, day 1.

Today marks the midpoint of the cycle with exactly 8 weeks completed.
-Andromass is dropped as of today. Will update how i feel this coming week without it.
-Will get bloods done next week to make sure everything is okay and to confirm if my gear is bunk, underdosed or G2G.

Total Gains made to date since beginning of cycle:
+ 15 lbs of body mass (almost nonexistent water retention due to use of AI ED w/ occasional formestane).
+ 35 lbs on squats
+ 65 lbs on deadlifts
+ 15 lbs each hand on incline DB chest press
+ 10 lbs each hand dumbell shoulder press
+ 90 lbs barbell shrugs
+ 10 lbs each hand on DB front raises
+ 7.5 lbs each hand lateral raises
+20 lbs upright row
+15 lbs each hand DB flys
+4 weight factor plates on lat pulldown (im assuming this is 40-50 lbs)
You get the idea... im making some progress

Side Effects:

-On/off lethargy and mood swings: Some days will be amazing, aggression thru the roof, ill kill my workout and walk around like a bully in the gym. Other days i will feel like a little bitch and act like i have downs. Almost feels like i have hormonal fluctuations.

-Shot libido and severe ED: Well, it hasnt worked ever since ive begun and hasnt showed any signs of improvement. Cannot get erect unless i stroke the s*** out of it and even then its still relatively soft. I believe taking the dutasteride (used it about 5 weeks @ full dose) in the beginning of the cycle was the main contributing factor. Guys please note that new research done indicates DHT inhibitors (propecia or finasteride, avodart or dutasteride) can cause PERMANENT ed, even after months to years of discontinuing the drug. I really wish someone told me about the potential of persistent side effects. I would have just rather shaved my head.

-Hair loss, especially after discontinuing dutasteride. Nothing too bad though.

-Very little acne, but it abnormal places. Got only a couple zits: one on my traps (front - left side) one on each deltoid, one on my quads (lateral surface of the thigh), etc. I usually only get acne on my face and back, if i ever do.

-Reduced appetite. I don't know why, i cant eat nearly as much as i did in the earlier weeks of the cycle. Food in general is not as enjoyable and harder to down.

-Huge spike in metabolism. This happened recently, around last week. My RHR fluctuates between 90-120 BPM, even in sleep. Me walking to the coffee stand (1/8 of a mile) = sweat all over my back, shoulders, armpits. I actually lost an inch off my waist surprisingly, but i feel like its impacting my size quite a bit.

Cant think of anything else at the moment...

Will post some pics later today after court. Cheers

-GH

 

[kdeome]

Potential permanent ED... :yikes:

Good luck buddy, do you have some before and current pictures? Sounds like you're doing it right!

 

[GotHuge]

Potential permanent ED... :yikes:

Good luck buddy, do you have some before and current pictures? Sounds like you're doing it right!

Making steady progress over time that's the goal
As for the ED Im looking in to proviron... I believe the problem is due to severe supression of androgens and if thats the case proviron should get my guy up and running.
I will have to find some before pics that i can post up here... unfortunately i have easily-identifiable tattoos
Anyways Heres a lat spread taken 5 days ago.

-GH

 

[GotHuge]

Well everyone, i got some bad news.
The gear i got was total bunk and absolute garbage. Bloods confirmed it, test was 198 ng/dl !!!!!
Therefore, im suppressed from the AndroMass and not continuing on real gear at all
...Maybe that was the reason i never had a sex drive, no increase in appetite, and no prominent vascularity...
This entire week, i felt ridiculously horrible and useless
ALL lifts are down, losing weight, losing size, increasing bodyfat (cortisol reaction) complete loss of apetite, weak, depressed, and lethargy @ 100%
I have no connections to legitimate sources for real gear therefore i took a risk and bought online, and i got fu**ed for it.

If anyone wants to PM me to help me out so i can save my cycle, i'd really appreciate it.

If not, i shall count my losses, throw out the bunk gear, and begin my PCT immediately.

-GH

 

[GotHuge]

It's been a while since ive been on the forums... During the time ive been waiting to recieve some real gear, i lost about 8 pounds..not all muscle though, as i did lean out a bit.
Lesson for everyone: If you are not sure your source is 100% legitimate, trash your gear. Plain and simple... its not worth the risk


Luckily through a friend, i managed to get some test prop and will start shooting it tonight @ 125mg EOD. The new plan is: to regain the strength/size i lost with just the test, then i will stack the prop with another compound and continue the cycle for an additional 8 weeks before going to pct.
Will update how it goes. Oh and happy new year everyone!

-GH

 

[msrider]

It's been a while since ive been on the forums... During the time ive been waiting to recieve some real gear, i lost about 8 pounds..not all muscle though, as i did lean out a bit.
Lesson for everyone: If you are not sure your source is 100% legitimate, trash your gear. Plain and simple... its not worth the risk

Luckily through a friend, i managed to get some test prop and will start shooting it tonight @ 125mg EOD. The new plan is: to regain the strength/size i lost with just the test, then i will stack the prop with another compound and continue the cycle for an additional 8 weeks before going to pct.
Will update how it goes. Oh and happy new year everyone!

-GH

Welcome Back! Prop will be perfect to get those gains coming. Kill it!

 

[msrider]

My bad!

 

[GotHuge]

Great news! Im regaining quickly: I'm back up to 190 lbs, lost a little fat, and strength is almost back at 100%...
Once i get back to 195 lbs i decided im going to run Tren A 500 mg / week test p 250 mg / week for 6 weeks (Im shooting ED) then end the cycle and go to PCT

Will keep you all updated w/ progress & pics. Happy new year!

-GH