Spiking the Cider: An Alpha Mass log

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  1. I agree with Boston, serm + reboot would have everything covered for ya. You may be fine with just reboot, but that is always putting yourself at risk.


  2. Thanks for the input. I figured Reboot by itself would be sufficient, but I guess I'll look into Clomid just to play it safe.
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  3. So about halfway during my workout earlier today (chest/triceps/shoulders), I decided to step on the scale, which weighed me at 166.2 lbs. This is a gain of about 4 pounds (I started the cycle at 162) in 4.5 weeks. Could it be muscle? Fat? Deeply impacted fecal matter? I have no idea, but if my image in the mirror is any indication, I've made more progress in the last month than I have in 4-5 years of trying to workout with two torn labrums. Weight amounts have held steady from the previous week, except my previous "max" amount of weight on the cable bench press felt MUCH easier today (so I added 5 pounds).

    Unfortunately, I'm becoming more and more suspicious that AM is causing me to shed hair for the first time in my life. When I was washing my hair earlier today, I looked at the shampoo lather in my hands and noticed two or three hairs in it. Then when I was drying my hair with a towel a few minutes later, I looked down at the towel and noticed probably 7 or 8 hairs in it. However, since I have never "inspected" my towels like that before I started my AM cycle, I'm not sure if I have always lost that many hairs when drying my hair off or if it's a side effect of the AM.

    Would someone with more cycling experience who also happens to be susceptible to hairloss mind chiming in and telling me if it sounds like I'm actually experiencing shedding from this? How much hair do guys typically lose when they're definitely "shedding?"

    If I am, in fact, losing my hair from taking AM, I'll be mad not about the fact that the PH is causing me to lose hair, but about the long-term implication, which is that I will lose my hair at some point in my life. I know it sounds like a dumb thing to worry about, but I have always had really nice-looking, thick, shiny hair, and I honestly don't think my face would look normal without it. I'm not one of those guys who can shave his head and look like he's naturally always been bald. I NEED HAIR. I guess Propecia is in my future.

    (or maybe not? fingers crossed...)

  4. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    So about halfway during my workout earlier today (chest/triceps/shoulders), I decided to step on the scale, which weighed me at 166.2 lbs. This is a gain of about 4 pounds (I started the cycle at 162) in 4.5 weeks. Could it be muscle? Fat? Deeply impacted fecal matter? I have no idea, but if my image in the mirror is any indication, I've made more progress in the last month than I have in 4-5 years of trying to workout with two torn labrums. Weight amounts have held steady from the previous week, except my previous "max" amount of weight on the cable bench press felt MUCH easier today (so I added 5 pounds).

    Unfortunately, I'm becoming more and more suspicious that AM is causing me to shed hair for the first time in my life. When I was washing my hair earlier today, I looked at the shampoo lather in my hands and noticed two or three hairs in it. Then when I was drying my hair with a towel a few minutes later, I looked down at the towel and noticed probably 7 or 8 hairs in it. However, since I have never "inspected" my towels like that before I started my AM cycle, I'm not sure if I have always lost that many hairs when drying my hair off or if it's a side effect of the AM.

    Would someone with more cycling experience who also happens to be susceptible to hairloss mind chiming in and telling me if it sounds like I'm actually experiencing shedding from this? How much hair do guys typically lose when they're definitely "shedding?"

    If I am, in fact, losing my hair from taking AM, I'll be mad not about the fact that the PH is causing me to lose hair, but about the long-term implication, which is that I will lose my hair at some point in my life. I know it sounds like a dumb thing to worry about, but I have always had really nice-looking, thick, shiny hair, and I honestly don't think my face would look normal without it. I'm not one of those guys who can shave his head and look like he's naturally always been bald. I NEED HAIR. I guess Propecia is in my future.

    (or maybe not? fingers crossed...)

    I hear about hair loss a lot this time of year, and I suspect that it is more often due to the dry air that creeps into many parts of the country during these colder months. A dry scalp is far more susceptible to hair shedding than a healthy scalp. I always tell people to first consider that, and if you the air in your home is dry, to pick up a humidifier. A good sign that your air is dry is your clothes are more collecting more static.

    Having said all that I too have noticed some hair loss from 1-DHEA products. But most people do not. You can do one of a few things.

    -Lower the dose and see if it improves
    -Start minoxidil treatments (you will need to use this for life)
    -Determine if any other life changes are playing a role (less sleep, diet change, med change, etc)
    -Evaluate your shampoo. Buy one with ketoconazole. My favorite is this one (kinda expensive though): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00
    -Finally you can always stop the cycle.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    I hear about hair loss a lot this time of year, and I suspect that it is more often due to the dry air that creeps into many parts of the country during these colder months. A dry scalp is far more susceptible to hair shedding than a healthy scalp. I always tell people to first consider that, and if you the air in your home is dry, to pick up a humidifier. A good sign that your air is dry is your clothes are more collecting more static.

    Having said all that I too have noticed some hair loss from 1-DHEA products. But most people do not. You can do one of a few things.

    -Lower the dose and see if it improves
    -Start minoxidil treatments (you will need to use this for life)
    -Determine if any other life changes are playing a role (less sleep, diet change, med change, etc)
    -Evaluate your shampoo. Buy one with ketoconazole. My favorite is this one (kinda expensive though): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00
    -Finally you can always stop the cycle.
    Thanks for the tips. I am definitely NOT planning to stop the cycle -- other than the possible shedding and occasional lethargy, I have nothing but praise for the effects of Alpha Mass. There are practically no "real" side effects associated with AM as far as I can tell. I have also considered the fact that the air in the southeast has become much drier over the last few weeks, which has definitely made my scalp itchier. Also, I'm still not even sure if I'm actually shedding at all since I never bothered to look for it before. I guess I'm just paranoid! LOL.

    I definitely don't want to make it sound like I have nothing to do but complain because, other than my probably irrational paranoia regarding a few hairs being lost here and there, the last few weeks have been the best "gym weeks" I have experienced. I've also gotten into the habit of looking forward to making visually noticeable improvements on a week-by-week basis. When everything is said and done, I hope to have some impressive "after" photos to compare to my befores.

    I think the fact that I can be so concerned about hair loss and no other side effects is because there really are none to deal with. There's nothing else to notice but progress.
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  6. Yesterday I did my back workout and finally broke through my "plateau" on lat pulldowns (which had been largely attributed to me having torn labrums). I am definitely looking more muscular and defined in the mirror and not as soft and jiggly (I don't know how else to put it!). My running shirts (which I wear to the gym since I usually workout after running) are fitting much tighter, especially in the chest and upper-back regions. I wish my shoulders weren't injured; I would probably be making much more rapid and substantial strength gains if they were uninjured.

    I'm looking forward to having my chest/triceps/shoulder workout tomorrow, so I'll be posting another update tomorrow night with the results of a new weigh-in as well.

    BTW, regarding PCT, how long following the conclusion of your cycles are you going to wait before starting it? I have heard it depends on the hormone, so I just wanted to get some input.

  7. Pct should start immediately, Jump right into serm. Some people actually start their test booster a bit before cycle ends, and some start the ai if used 2 weeks after cycle to help prevent estrogen rebound. If you are doing serm and reboot I would start the next day after last pill of u cycle.

  8. Thanks. Can estrogen rebound occur with 1-DHEA? I read that it can't aromatize, so I wasn't sure...

  9. BTW, I have done some more research, and it seems like most people have been fine using just Reboot/Arom-x for PCT even after using multiple AMS/FRL hormones (I.e., 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA, and 19-nor-DHEA all in the same cycle). Since I'm just using one of those compounds (1-DHEA), it seems like Reboot would definitely be enough. Is there any way to tell if I could be one of the few who definitely needs to use a SERM?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by SpicedCider View Post
    BTW, I have done some more research, and it seems like most people have been fine using just Reboot/Arom-x for PCT even after using multiple AMS/FRL hormones (I.e., 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA, and 19-nor-DHEA all in the same cycle). Since I'm just using one of those compounds (1-DHEA), it seems like Reboot would definitely be enough. Is there any way to tell if I could be one of the few who definitely needs to use a SERM?
    There is really no way to tell unfortunately. But the longer it takes to recover the more likely you are to lose some gains.
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  11. Unfortunately, my throat was feeling scratchy the other night, and sure enough -- I have a cold virus. What really sucks is the lethargic, run-down feeling that I always seem to experience when I have one (and it's way worse than any lethargy that AM has ever caused!). However, I still was able to do 2 full sets of 12 reps each with 5 pounds more than my previous "max" on incline bench press (I did 5 sets total on it). I'm thinking about switching up my chest workout routine and doing a set of each exercise in sequence, as opposed to doing all 5 sets of incline BP consecutively, all 5 sets of flat BP consecutively, etc. since I seem to get exhausted so soon after finishing my fifth incline BP set. My chest is definitely looking more defined and more "square" in the mirror and less like boobs.

    I also wanted to make a note regarding libido. I have not experience any issues at all in that department so far. In fact, I'm still just as much of an on-campus pervert as I have always been, and my drive to stalk local girls on Facebook has been just as strong as it was on the day I created my Facebook account in 2007. So I guess it's really a toss-up as to what sides you can expect to experience during an AM cycle -- some experience a decrease in libido and no lethargy, and some experience mild lethargy and no effects on libido. Some probably don't even experience either of those sides.

    Also, I'm beginning to wonder if my concerns regarding hairloss might have been unfounded, because over the last two days, I have maybe noticed 1-3 hairs at the most in my shampoo and towels. Also, I have noticed that, upon inspecting the hairs, there is a little white ball on the ends of most of them which is apparently an indication that they are telogen (I.e., resting phase) hairs. From what I gathered through some research, hairs that fall out that have these white bulbs on the end are indicative of a condition called telogen effluvium, which is apparently not the same condition as MPB. Hopefully the shedding (which seems to have subsided some in the last couple of days) is due to that and not MBP.

  12. I started my Mass/Bulk cycle about a week ago and have been experiencing the exact same sides, minus the hair, as you. However, I got sick 2 days in. Pushing through though. What bothers me the most is the BP issues. Makes me dizzy which is really annoying. I have started the bp support supps and am hopping for the best. Only 5 days in and it is already having a bit of a recomp affect.

  13. Actually, not to hi jack this thread, but does anyone have any idea why I'm getting the dizziness? Or for that matter how to stop it? Anyone else had this?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by anty View Post
    Actually, not to hi jack this thread, but does anyone have any idea why I'm getting the dizziness? Or for that matter how to stop it? Anyone else had this?
    Have u checked blood pressure lately, how is it compared to normal? How about blood sugar levels, and are you drinking plenty of water?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by srgraham69

    Have u checked blood pressure lately, how is it compared to normal? How about blood sugar levels, and are you drinking plenty of water?
    Water is a must. I'm drinking near a gallon a day in AM.

  16. I actually just back from a CVS run to check the bp, 139/88, so it is not supper high but defiantly elevated. The blood sugar levels could be it and I will up my water intake. Not totally sure I'm taking down a gallon a day and I have been thirsty in the pm. Thanks

  17. Quote Originally Posted by anty View Post
    I actually just back from a CVS run to check the bp, 139/88, so it is not supper high but defiantly elevated. The blood sugar levels could be it and I will up my water intake. Not totally sure I'm taking down a gallon a day and I have been thirsty in the pm. Thanks
    During the first couple of weeks of my cycle, my BP was elevated to similar numbers. I didn't feel dizzy, although I did feel hot and flushed in the face as if I was coming down with the flu. However, after maybe 2 weeks, the side effect of high BP diminished, and I don't think AM is elevating my BP at all anymore (or at least it isn't elevating it to the extent that I feel my heart pounding in my chest). Good luck with your cycle...

  18. Either of you gents use a prewo supplement with the AM? I ordered C4 and have used it about three times. Makes me feel like sh!t though, so not sure if its due to the AM or just the stims.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Either of you gents use a prewo supplement with the AM? I ordered C4 and have used it about three times. Makes me feel like sh!t though, so not sure if its due to the AM or just the stims.
    i have actually been using c4 for the past couple weeks on my cycle also, hasnt giving me any problems though.. have you used pwo while on cycle before?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by srgraham69

    i have actually been using c4 for the past couple weeks on my cycle also, hasnt giving me any problems though.. have you used pwo while on cycle before?
    Never have. This is actually my first cycle.

  21. how does it make you feel bad, headaches, cramps, etc..? also did you go for 2 scoops of c4, or just 1, if 2 maybe try 1 scoop and see if that treats ya any differently..

  22. Quote Originally Posted by lboston View Post
    Either of you gents use a prewo supplement with the AM? I ordered C4 and have used it about three times. Makes me feel like sh!t though, so not sure if its due to the AM or just the stims.
    I have actually never used C4. To be honest, after trying "groundbreaking" PWO's like Craze and feeling nothing (or just feeling nauseous from taking in too much caffeine, which seems to be the case with a lot of other PWO's), it seems like the combination of ephedrine + caffeine is the best PWO there is. In addition to feeling mentally energized, it also makes me feel physically "in the mode," almost as if there is less gravity pulling me down so that I can run much faster and feel lighter on my feet.

    I usually take E+C just once a week to avoid building tolerance to it, but I have found that it is optimal for me to take E+C in the morning (or whenever I do my running), and then about 30 minutes after I finish running, I take my first dose of AM. Generally, I just take E+C (or PWO's in general) and run before taking AM. Even if I'm just running without taking PWO's, I still like to take AM afterwards so as to avoid any lethargy/BP spikes during my run.

  23. Unfortunately, the last couple of workouts have been pretty much worthless due to being sick; not only has my strength been down (and I have even cut a few workouts short), but on Monday, my weight was down to 163... ? Hoping it was a fluke. I'll be doing my chest/triceps/shoulders workout later today and have been feeling better, though, so hopefully everything will be back to normal for me. It sucks to get sick right when the cycle is ramping up, but I guess that's how it is.

  24. yeah man just double up your thanksgiving caloric intake!! hah, glad to hear you are feeling better.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by srgraham69 View Post
    yeah man just double up your thanksgiving caloric intake!! hah, glad to hear you are feeling better.
    Thanks. Yeah, it's time to do some serious eating to make up for it, LOL. It also doesn't help that I tried a new running route earlier today and got lost and ended up running for close to an hour and twenty minutes.

    What is weird is that even though the numbers have been down on the scale, I'm still looking more defined and muscular than I was before I started taking AM. As others have alluded to, there must be a recomp effect...
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