Spiking the Cider: An Alpha Mass log
- 10-27-2012, 12:16 PM
- 10-30-2012, 09:46 PM
Sorry for not updating for a few days; I've had several assignments to complete and tests to study for, so I was a bit busier this past weekend. On Saturday I worked back/biceps and yesterday I trained chest/triceps/shoulders; I'll be training back/arms tomorrow. So far, weight amounts on all exercises have held steady from last week, but when I stepped on the scale yesterday, I was up to 165.4. Again, I'm not sure if it's still too early to start gaining muscle mass from AM (this Friday will mark my third week "on" it), but it's good news either way. I'm eager to step on the scale at the gym tomorrow and see if that number has held.
I'm also not sure if it's too early to start noticing any hairloss, but every day for the last few days, I have noticed that after drying my hair off with a towel, there are usually 3-5 hairs (maybe more?) in the towel. The back of my head has also been itching, but that could be from the weather here being dry lately. However, before I went to sleep last night, I scratched the back of my head for a few seconds, looked at the pillow, and saw that that there were 4-5 hairs on it. Of course, I have never been OCD about monitoring for hairloss before, so I have no idea if these hairs are ones that would've fallen out anyways.
For anyone who knows, doesn't it usually take 4 weeks for hair to fall out of hair follicles that have been damaged by DHT?
- 10-31-2012, 06:22 PM
Originally Posted by SpicedCider
11-06-2012, 12:56 AM
It's definitely time for an update. You guys might recall that the other week, I stated something about being able to do only one full set of 10-12 reps with my "max" weight on incline bench press. Well, as of my last chest workout which was on Friday, not only is that amount of weight no longer my "max," but it actually ended up being the default amount of weight I felt comfortable lifting. I initially did two sets of 10 lbs. less weight to begin with, then added 10 lbs. to both sides and was surprised at how easy the 12 reps felt. So I figured I'd try to do another set and all 12 reps felt great. Since I've been doing 5 sets of incline BPing for the last couple of months anyways, I decided to see if I could do my last set with that same amount of weight (normally, I have to drop the weight at this point due to just being exhausted), and I was able to bang out 10 relatively easy reps.
So having said that, I think it's apparent that the AM has "kicked-in." The BP spike issues haven't occurred in probably two weeks (or if they have, I haven't been able to detect them as I could before) and I don't even know if I'm experiencing any issues with lethargy since I tend to feel kind of tired during the week anyways due to being up late studying and not getting enough sleep (sometimes). I was also up 5 pounds earlier today during my back workout on an exercise that I seem to have plateaued on for about a month now (underhanded Hammer Strength pulldowns).
After this Friday, I will be increasing my dosing to 9 caps/day. I have a feeling the fun is REALLY about to begin...
11-06-2012, 03:11 AM
I just upped mine to 8 per day.
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11-06-2012, 11:40 AM
11-06-2012, 11:53 AM
Strength not so much. Mass is def noticeable. In two weeks I gained 4lbs.Originally Posted by SpicedCider
I want to see how 8 caps differ from 6.
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11-10-2012, 12:41 PM
Strength on various exercises has held steady over the past week, although the workouts I had over the last few days were crappier than usual since I hadn't gotten as much sleep the nights before due to having to study for back-to-back tests. However, I'm happy to announce that today is the first day that I will be taking 8 caps of AM instead of my usual 6 (I think I mentioned previously that I would be increasing to 9, but that won't be until the 7th week).
Since Friday marks the end of my fourth week of taking AM and I've heard that DHEA products really "kick-in" after about the fourth week, I think I'm really going to make some significant progress over the next few weeks. I am already noticing a visible improvement in my upper chest and arms, so let's bring on 8 caps/day...
11-11-2012, 05:05 PM
BTW, what are you other guys who are logging AM going to use for PCT? Would FRL's Reboot be enough? I figured it would be since 1-DHEA is supposed to be mild anyways and I'm not taking any other PH's, but I just wanted to be sure.
11-11-2012, 05:28 PM
I'm on TRT, so the pct isn't something ill be doing. I've heard and read that the reboot product should be sufficient.Originally Posted by SpicedCider
HOWEVER-I wouldn't recommend doing any PCT where you're not using a SERM. You can get Clomid very cheap--Probably cheaper than you paid for the alpha mass.
A cycle isn't worth potentially damaging your endocrine system; no matter how mild it is said to be. Always better safe than sorry.
Ideally, you woulda had pct though through prior to starting, but some things we have to adjust for. I'm no professional on these issues by any means, but I've read enough to know a SERM would be in your best interest.
11-11-2012, 06:37 PM
I agree with Boston, serm + reboot would have everything covered for ya. You may be fine with just reboot, but that is always putting yourself at risk.
11-11-2012, 08:45 PM
Thanks for the input. I figured Reboot by itself would be sufficient, but I guess I'll look into Clomid just to play it safe.
11-12-2012, 09:07 PM
So about halfway during my workout earlier today (chest/triceps/shoulders), I decided to step on the scale, which weighed me at 166.2 lbs. This is a gain of about 4 pounds (I started the cycle at 162) in 4.5 weeks. Could it be muscle? Fat? Deeply impacted fecal matter? I have no idea, but if my image in the mirror is any indication, I've made more progress in the last month than I have in 4-5 years of trying to workout with two torn labrums. Weight amounts have held steady from the previous week, except my previous "max" amount of weight on the cable bench press felt MUCH easier today (so I added 5 pounds).
Unfortunately, I'm becoming more and more suspicious that AM is causing me to shed hair for the first time in my life. When I was washing my hair earlier today, I looked at the shampoo lather in my hands and noticed two or three hairs in it. Then when I was drying my hair with a towel a few minutes later, I looked down at the towel and noticed probably 7 or 8 hairs in it. However, since I have never "inspected" my towels like that before I started my AM cycle, I'm not sure if I have always lost that many hairs when drying my hair off or if it's a side effect of the AM.
Would someone with more cycling experience who also happens to be susceptible to hairloss mind chiming in and telling me if it sounds like I'm actually experiencing shedding from this? How much hair do guys typically lose when they're definitely "shedding?"
If I am, in fact, losing my hair from taking AM, I'll be mad not about the fact that the PH is causing me to lose hair, but about the long-term implication, which is that I will lose my hair at some point in my life. I know it sounds like a dumb thing to worry about, but I have always had really nice-looking, thick, shiny hair, and I honestly don't think my face would look normal without it. I'm not one of those guys who can shave his head and look like he's naturally always been bald. I NEED HAIR. I guess Propecia is in my future.
(or maybe not? fingers crossed...)
11-12-2012, 09:41 PM
I hear about hair loss a lot this time of year, and I suspect that it is more often due to the dry air that creeps into many parts of the country during these colder months. A dry scalp is far more susceptible to hair shedding than a healthy scalp. I always tell people to first consider that, and if you the air in your home is dry, to pick up a humidifier. A good sign that your air is dry is your clothes are more collecting more static.
Having said all that I too have noticed some hair loss from 1-DHEA products. But most people do not. You can do one of a few things.
-Lower the dose and see if it improves
-Start minoxidil treatments (you will need to use this for life)
-Determine if any other life changes are playing a role (less sleep, diet change, med change, etc)
-Evaluate your shampoo. Buy one with ketoconazole. My favorite is this one (kinda expensive though): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ls_o01_s00_i00
-Finally you can always stop the cycle.
11-12-2012, 10:02 PM
I definitely don't want to make it sound like I have nothing to do but complain because, other than my probably irrational paranoia regarding a few hairs being lost here and there, the last few weeks have been the best "gym weeks" I have experienced. I've also gotten into the habit of looking forward to making visually noticeable improvements on a week-by-week basis. When everything is said and done, I hope to have some impressive "after" photos to compare to my befores.
I think the fact that I can be so concerned about hair loss and no other side effects is because there really are none to deal with. There's nothing else to notice but progress.
11-15-2012, 09:26 PM
Yesterday I did my back workout and finally broke through my "plateau" on lat pulldowns (which had been largely attributed to me having torn labrums). I am definitely looking more muscular and defined in the mirror and not as soft and jiggly (I don't know how else to put it!). My running shirts (which I wear to the gym since I usually workout after running) are fitting much tighter, especially in the chest and upper-back regions. I wish my shoulders weren't injured; I would probably be making much more rapid and substantial strength gains if they were uninjured.
I'm looking forward to having my chest/triceps/shoulder workout tomorrow, so I'll be posting another update tomorrow night with the results of a new weigh-in as well.
BTW, regarding PCT, how long following the conclusion of your cycles are you going to wait before starting it? I have heard it depends on the hormone, so I just wanted to get some input.
11-15-2012, 09:40 PM
Pct should start immediately, Jump right into serm. Some people actually start their test booster a bit before cycle ends, and some start the ai if used 2 weeks after cycle to help prevent estrogen rebound. If you are doing serm and reboot I would start the next day after last pill of u cycle.
11-15-2012, 09:46 PM
Thanks. Can estrogen rebound occur with 1-DHEA? I read that it can't aromatize, so I wasn't sure...
11-15-2012, 10:00 PM
BTW, I have done some more research, and it seems like most people have been fine using just Reboot/Arom-x for PCT even after using multiple AMS/FRL hormones (I.e., 1-DHEA, 4-DHEA, and 19-nor-DHEA all in the same cycle). Since I'm just using one of those compounds (1-DHEA), it seems like Reboot would definitely be enough. Is there any way to tell if I could be one of the few who definitely needs to use a SERM?
11-16-2012, 10:06 AM
11-16-2012, 11:14 PM
Unfortunately, my throat was feeling scratchy the other night, and sure enough -- I have a cold virus. What really sucks is the lethargic, run-down feeling that I always seem to experience when I have one (and it's way worse than any lethargy that AM has ever caused!). However, I still was able to do 2 full sets of 12 reps each with 5 pounds more than my previous "max" on incline bench press (I did 5 sets total on it). I'm thinking about switching up my chest workout routine and doing a set of each exercise in sequence, as opposed to doing all 5 sets of incline BP consecutively, all 5 sets of flat BP consecutively, etc. since I seem to get exhausted so soon after finishing my fifth incline BP set. My chest is definitely looking more defined and more "square" in the mirror and less like boobs.
I also wanted to make a note regarding libido. I have not experience any issues at all in that department so far. In fact, I'm still just as much of an on-campus pervert as I have always been, and my drive to stalk local girls on Facebook has been just as strong as it was on the day I created my Facebook account in 2007. So I guess it's really a toss-up as to what sides you can expect to experience during an AM cycle -- some experience a decrease in libido and no lethargy, and some experience mild lethargy and no effects on libido. Some probably don't even experience either of those sides.
Also, I'm beginning to wonder if my concerns regarding hairloss might have been unfounded, because over the last two days, I have maybe noticed 1-3 hairs at the most in my shampoo and towels. Also, I have noticed that, upon inspecting the hairs, there is a little white ball on the ends of most of them which is apparently an indication that they are telogen (I.e., resting phase) hairs. From what I gathered through some research, hairs that fall out that have these white bulbs on the end are indicative of a condition called telogen effluvium, which is apparently not the same condition as MPB. Hopefully the shedding (which seems to have subsided some in the last couple of days) is due to that and not MBP.
11-17-2012, 05:44 PM
I started my Mass/Bulk cycle about a week ago and have been experiencing the exact same sides, minus the hair, as you. However, I got sick 2 days in. Pushing through though. What bothers me the most is the BP issues. Makes me dizzy which is really annoying. I have started the bp support supps and am hopping for the best. Only 5 days in and it is already having a bit of a recomp affect.
11-17-2012, 06:44 PM
Actually, not to hi jack this thread, but does anyone have any idea why I'm getting the dizziness? Or for that matter how to stop it? Anyone else had this?
11-17-2012, 06:55 PM
11-17-2012, 07:04 PM
Water is a must. I'm drinking near a gallon a day in AM.Originally Posted by srgraham69
11-17-2012, 07:34 PM
I actually just back from a CVS run to check the bp, 139/88, so it is not supper high but defiantly elevated. The blood sugar levels could be it and I will up my water intake. Not totally sure I'm taking down a gallon a day and I have been thirsty in the pm. Thanks
11-17-2012, 07:59 PM
11-18-2012, 07:53 PM
Either of you gents use a prewo supplement with the AM? I ordered C4 and have used it about three times. Makes me feel like sh!t though, so not sure if its due to the AM or just the stims.
11-18-2012, 08:20 PM
11-18-2012, 08:58 PM
Never have. This is actually my first cycle.Originally Posted by srgraham69
11-18-2012, 09:04 PM
how does it make you feel bad, headaches, cramps, etc..? also did you go for 2 scoops of c4, or just 1, if 2 maybe try 1 scoop and see if that treats ya any differently..
11-18-2012, 09:42 PM
I usually take E+C just once a week to avoid building tolerance to it, but I have found that it is optimal for me to take E+C in the morning (or whenever I do my running), and then about 30 minutes after I finish running, I take my first dose of AM. Generally, I just take E+C (or PWO's in general) and run before taking AM. Even if I'm just running without taking PWO's, I still like to take AM afterwards so as to avoid any lethargy/BP spikes during my run.
11-21-2012, 11:51 AM
Unfortunately, the last couple of workouts have been pretty much worthless due to being sick; not only has my strength been down (and I have even cut a few workouts short), but on Monday, my weight was down to 163... ? Hoping it was a fluke. I'll be doing my chest/triceps/shoulders workout later today and have been feeling better, though, so hopefully everything will be back to normal for me. It sucks to get sick right when the cycle is ramping up, but I guess that's how it is.
11-21-2012, 01:45 PM
yeah man just double up your thanksgiving caloric intake!! hah, glad to hear you are feeling better.
11-21-2012, 09:20 PM
What is weird is that even though the numbers have been down on the scale, I'm still looking more defined and muscular than I was before I started taking AM. As others have alluded to, there must be a recomp effect...
11-21-2012, 09:51 PM
11-21-2012, 10:29 PM
11-24-2012, 01:03 AM
I worked out chest/triceps/shoulders on Wednesday and back/biceps earlier today, and I'm happy to say that my strength has returned (plus a pound of the aforementioned suddenly-lost weight) since I'm not really sick anymore. I am still noticing a few hairs in my towels here and there but I'm still unsure as to whether the 1-DHEA is causing it to shed. I guess I'll keep a close eye on it following the conclusion of the cycle to determine whether the hairs that have been shed have done so as a result of my "natural" shedding cycle.
I would also like to provide an update regarding my plans for PCT. Thanks to Royd's generosity and willingness to give me a deal on a bottle of it, I will be using FRL's Reboot for PCT. I haven't experienced any libido-related issues at all during the cycle, so I don't think the 1-DHEA is going to leave me in a state of being "shut down."
11-27-2012, 12:00 AM
I had a great chest/triceps workout earlier today and had planned to include shoulders but ran out of time; I'll be working them instead either tomorrow or Wednesday with my back/biceps workout. I have really made a lot of progress on the incline bench press -- when I push the weight up, it's as if I can feel more "substance" in my upper chest being worked, and the pump feels great afterwards. My triceps also look more defined and separated from the rest of my arm, and I absolutely have to mention my biceps, which are noticeably bigger than they were a month ago. I'm also happy to say that I'm not sick anymore and that my appetite has subsequently returned.
A word to any readers who are considering running their own cycle of Alpha Mass: my cycle will (unfortunately) end within the next week, and it definitely seems like the AM really started to kick-in around 2 weeks ago. I would absolutely consider purchasing a third bottle of AM and extending your cycle by a few more weeks; trust me -- it will be worth it. If I could assure myself that my hair wasn't falling out, I wouldn't hesitate to order a third bottle and extend my cycle.
12-01-2012, 01:22 AM
Earlier today (actually yesterday, I guess), I had probably the best chest/triceps/shoulders workout I've ever had. My chest is not only looking thicker and more defined, but I'm actually feeling the chest muscles themselves contracting with every rep. My strength on triceps exercises has also improved dramatically during the cycle. Unfortunately, today will be the last day of the cycle, and I'll be starting PCT on Sunday. For PCT, I'll be using FRL's ReBoot (special thanks to Royd for giving me a good deal on it). I will also post a thorough summary/review of my experience with Alpha Mass later this weekend.
I know that you guys are probably looking forward to viewing "after" photos, so I'll take those sometime this weekend as well and post them in the thread.
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