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    bahahaa nah not high class, just doing it as an investment hoping to snag some sponsorship and get me started in fitness modelling how was your weekend luke? mine was awesome, my place got raided by the po-leese

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89
    bahahaa nah not high class, just doing it as an investment hoping to snag some sponsorship and get me started in fitness modelling how was your weekend luke? mine was awesome, my place got raided by the po-leese
    Raided?! That's gotta suck bro! Did they get anything.....? My weekend wasn't much better as I've been on night shift all weekend! Four days off come Monday morning! Thank fock!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Raided?! That's gotta suck bro! Did they get anything.....? My weekend wasn't much better as I've been on night shift all weekend! Four days off come Monday morning! Thank fock!
    nah man i donz keep illegal stuff in my house, its all good i didnt even arrested either, the search warrant was for "suspicion of having illegal goods" etc etc, ah that sucks man, atleast you got some down time to hit the weights hard! ill be trying to increase the tempo starting tomorrow, hope my legs are up to it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    nah man i donz keep illegal stuff in my house, its all good i didnt even arrested either, the search warrant was for "suspicion of having illegal goods" etc etc, ah that sucks man, atleast you got some down time to hit the weights hard! ill be trying to increase the tempo starting tomorrow, hope my legs are up to it
    Man lucky for you lol! Wonder how they got "suspicion"? My knee has been playing up the last few days so I hope It sorts itself before leg day! I'm going to do the same actually! Time for some circuits!
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    Start of week 2 weight 189lb 86kg. Down 2.3kg 5lb. Also I got my epi and DMZ in the mail today... it's going to be hard to hold out for another 3 weeks with them staring at me.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89
    how was your weekend luke? mine was awesome, my place got raided by the po-leese
    Maybe they took your camera?
    Just kidding mate, that's bad news sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozHarris View Post
    Maybe they took your camera?
    Just kidding mate, that's bad news sorry.
    hahaha nah, it wasnt pleasant but after a few seizure notices apparently you get raided. fock customs is all i can say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    hahaha nah, it wasnt pleasant but after a few seizure notices apparently you get raided. fock customs is all i can say.
    Yeah man customs here is a focking pain in the ass!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000

    Yeah man customs here is a focking pain in the ass!!
    Have to agree with you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redms

    Have to agree with you there.
    Lol if you look at nutra for example and you scroll down to the bottom of the product information where it says "countries this is banned in" and it's always Australia and only Australia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Lol if you look at nutra for example and you scroll down to the bottom of the product information where it says "countries this is banned in" and it's always Australia and only Australia
    if it works, its illegal, im pretty sure theres been attempts to ban creatine and protein in the past by weak-ass 60 yr old politicians who get scared just looking at a gym.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    if it works, its illegal, im pretty sure theres been attempts to ban creatine and protein in the past by weak-ass 60 yr old politicians who get scared just looking at a gym.
    Maybe the government should start looking at the money that could be made off supps that actually work! Hahah that wouldn't surprise me man! They make life difficult that for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Maybe the government should start looking at the money that could be made off supps that actually work! Hahah that wouldn't surprise me man! They make life difficult that for sure!
    hahaha indeed, they really should allow gear for personal use and over the age of 18, but hey what do i know, im just a gym guy thats done his homework, not some scrawny middle-aged guy that chose to lie and cheat for a profession and then label steroid users with the same brush i paint myself. anyways cutting update: weights now 90kg down 2kg, ill be doing swimming everyday now that its getting warmer and my legs make running impossible
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    hahaha indeed, they really should allow gear for personal use and over the age of 18, but hey what do i know, im just a gym guy thats done his homework, not some scrawny middle-aged guy that chose to lie and cheat for a profession and then label steroid users with the same brush i paint myself. anyways cutting update: weights now 90kg down 2kg, ill be doing swimming everyday now that its getting warmer and my legs make running impossible
    I agree man. IMO you should be able to got to a doctor and get it prescribed but have it prescribed as a kit with support supps and pct etc etc. Wishful thinking lol.
    Down 2kg! Good sh*t bro! I'm down 2kg too! Even so far! I did ten minutes of cardio after my weights session today. That was enough lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    I agree man. IMO you should be able to got to a doctor and get it prescribed but have it prescribed as a kit with support supps and pct etc etc. Wishful thinking lol.
    Down 2kg! Good sh*t bro! I'm down 2kg too! Even so far! I did ten minutes of cardio after my weights session today. That was enough lol.
    Exactly man, they say how dangerous using is, well what about forcing guys in OZ to get vet grade crap, and outlawing pct's like nolva torem etc? i was thinking about just staying with some relatives in the UK where its legal for personal use just so i can get a quality bulk on, considering since the raid it'd be almost impossible to get some decent gear from overseas now, and im against forking out hundreds and hundreds for crap meant for horses. haha cheers man, id rather be down 4kg's considering the effort ive put in, but my strength has shot up in the 2 weeks (ive got my log up in the cutting section here) so i cant really complain. hahaha maan i WISH i could do cardio, my legs are starting to piss me off haha.
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    starting pics! sorry it took so long to get em done, theres a whole heap but ill just upload the basics Name:  AM Before Front.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89
    starting pics! sorry it took so long to get em done, theres a whole heap but ill just upload the basics <img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68 261"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68 262"/><img src="http://anabolicminds.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68 263"/>
    Bout time bro! Now let's kick this thing up a notch and get rid of this fat!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Bout time bro! Now let's kick this thing up a notch and get rid of this fat!!
    haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing
    Not much you can do tho man when your sidelined with injuries. I had to take 5 months off with my back and then just as I got back into it I tore a rotator cuff tendon. Once I got back in the gym I wasn't lifting much more than my girl lol. Now that was embarrassing!!! 5%? you've got your work cut out for you! I'll be happy at 80kg at under 10% in 8 weeks! Hopefully with epi/dmz I can put on a couple lbs LBM even in a deficit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Not much you can do tho man when your sidelined with injuries. I had to take 5 months off with my back and then just as I got back into it I tore a rotator cuff tendon. Once I got back in the gym I wasn't lifting much more than my girl lol. Now that was embarrassing!!! 5%? you've got your work cut out for you! I'll be happy at 80kg at under 10% in 8 weeks! Hopefully with epi/dmz I can put on a couple lbs LBM even in a deficit
    yeah i know, im just starting back strength-wise but imma get there hahaha yeah its a bit fo a blow to the ego when ure struggling to lift them puny weights! haha yeah its ambitious but i reckon after 6 weeks of IF followed by 2 weeks of just fish and dehydration and sauna's i should get there inb4 dying of a heart attack and unaware bbforum.com kents start roidusations :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    haha yeah im looking at the photos and im like sheet i let myself go! hahaha yeah defs time to really increase the tempo, i wanna be round 80-85kgs and under 5% at the end of this thing
    If you started at 92kg and 24% bf, that is 22kgs of fat, to be 80kg @ 5% you are gonna need to pack on about 5 kg of muscle at the same time.
    Huge effort but you are gonna need to pump some serious gear into yourself.

    Good luck guys....
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    You guys have a lot of blood sweat and tears ahead of you. These are really body transformations. I will be looking forward to the finish photos. Good luck?
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    Going from my weigh in on Monday I have 12.3kg of bf on me at 15%. If I lose 6kg that should put me at around 8-9% Granted there will be some water that I'll need to lose but hopefully not more than a kg or two since I've already dropped a fair bit. 78kg is my goal but I'm hoping with epi and DMZ I should beable to put on a couple kgs an hopefully peak at 80kg at 10% or less
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozHarris View Post
    If you started at 92kg and 24% bf, that is 22kgs of fat, to be 80kg @ 5% you are gonna need to pack on about 5 kg of muscle at the same time.
    Huge effort but you are gonna need to pump some serious gear into yourself.

    Good luck guys....
    yeah ive done the numbers, prior to the surgery i was 96kg and 15% BF so im hoping i can regain as much lost muscle via muscle memory on this 90 day gig, aaand cant really comment on what im on since im trying to be fitness model
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    weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89
    weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.
    I can't do kangaroo. Can't stand the taste!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89
    weight update: im now 89kg , although that maybe due to the fact that i was sick last night from eating a kangaroo steak, its the second time ive tried to eat it and the second time its made me quite ill, so despite how good its supposed to be for your body, im going to switch it for lean beef mince instead.
    Have you tried roo mince? I found the roo steaks are a bit too chewy.
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    havent tried roo mince, though i can EAT kanga just fine its keeping the shyte down thats the problem! i dont mind the taste; bit weird like a cross between lamb and beef, and something else, maybe a weird chickeny taste, eh i dont think ill try anything with roo in it again, honestly feeling like im gonna puke for 6 hours and cant sleep is not something i want to experience again!
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    Hows your week coming along bro?? My weeks been focked. Need to undo some bad eating starting tonight!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Hows your week coming along bro?? My weeks been focked. Need to undo some bad eating starting tonight!
    hey brattah! Yeah mines going aight, for some reason im back up to 90kg last time i weighed myself, im doing a carb-up today and then ill introduce a small amount everyday rather than trying to go zero carbs, as my strength has gone down on some lifts and my weight-loss has stalled. hahaha whats been going on man? you been getting tempted too much by dat dere makdonuldz?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    hey brattah! Yeah mines going aight, for some reason im back up to 90kg last time i weighed myself, im doing a carb-up today and then ill introduce a small amount everyday rather than trying to go zero carbs, as my strength has gone down on some lifts and my weight-loss has stalled. hahaha whats been going on man? you been getting tempted too much by dat dere makdonuldz?
    That's no good bro! yeah I do under 100g carbs for most of the week and then one day I'll have like 250 and that seems to just stock me back up! Nah it wasn't that bad but you know what it's like when you move house you kinda just eat what you can. Last time I weighed in I was 85.3 which was a surprise after the few days I had prior to weighing in! I'll be back up after a carbup I'm sure ! How's your PT assignments going??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    That's no good bro! yeah I do under 100g carbs for most of the week and then one day I'll have like 250 and that seems to just stock me back up! Nah it wasn't that bad but you know what it's like when you move house you kinda just eat what you can. Last time I weighed in I was 85.3 which was a surprise after the few days I had prior to weighing in! I'll be back up after a carbup I'm sure ! How's your PT assignments going??
    yeah i have no idea why consideirng my diet was basically all meat and veggies, and i weighed myself in the morning no food and after a massive dump :P, yeah im thinking of having maybe 100g of white rice a day 6 days a week and every friday just go overboard with rice and sweet potato whilst still maintaining the same amount of protein and veggies. aah yeah i understand man, hahah seems like ive got some catching up to do! ive just been to a chinese resturaunt for lunch and had 2 large servings of rice and then for dinner i had 2 steaks and 4 gluten free buns, im just about to have 300g lean mince with 100g of white rice, and then my last meal (if i can stomach it) will be 250g of Basa Fillet with another 100g of rice which should end up being a decent carb up day actually good man, im jus twaiting for my cert III to come in the mail, ive done all the theory for cert IV, im doing the cert IV theory exam on monday, im not too sure what i need to do for the practical side of Cert IV though, ill ask when i hand in my exam, but considering im back to lifting i should be able to handle it. whats the ETA of you doing OH&S?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkubaSteve89

    yeah i have no idea why consideirng my diet was basically all meat and veggies, and i weighed myself in the morning no food and after a massive dump :P, yeah im thinking of having maybe 100g of white rice a day 6 days a week and every friday just go overboard with rice and sweet potato whilst still maintaining the same amount of protein and veggies. aah yeah i understand man, hahah seems like ive got some catching up to do! ive just been to a chinese resturaunt for lunch and had 2 large servings of rice and then for dinner i had 2 steaks and 4 gluten free buns, im just about to have 300g lean mince with 100g of white rice, and then my last meal (if i can stomach it) will be 250g of Basa Fillet with another 100g of rice which should end up being a decent carb up day actually good man, im jus twaiting for my cert III to come in the mail, ive done all the theory for cert IV, im doing the cert IV theory exam on monday, im not too sure what i need to do for the practical side of Cert IV though, ill ask when i hand in my exam, but considering im back to lifting i should be able to handle it. whats the ETA of you doing OH&S?
    Why white rice?? White rice is a simple carb from memory. Why don't you eat brown rice?
    Hahaha yep that's a good carb up lol. I actually find it hard to eat any more than 300g of carbs from good sources!
    Yah bro cert4 prac is easy! You should breeze through it! When I did mine I had a massive surgical incision down to my tailbone and I still passed.... I ended up bleeding all over the bathroom afterwards but I passed lol!
    I've just about got all the info I need to make an informed decision about it. From what I've been told, since I have an emergency response background I should be able to skip cert 4 oh&s and jump straight into the diploma! So that cuts about 12 months off my study time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000 View Post
    Why white rice?? White rice is a simple carb from memory. Why don't you eat brown rice?
    Hahaha yep that's a good carb up lol. I actually find it hard to eat any more than 300g of carbs from good sources!
    Yah bro cert4 prac is easy! You should breeze through it! When I did mine I had a massive surgical incision down to my tailbone and I still passed.... I ended up bleeding all over the bathroom afterwards but I passed lol!
    I've just about got all the info I need to make an informed decision about it. From what I've been told, since I have an emergency response background I should be able to skip cert 4 oh&s and jump straight into the diploma! So that cuts about 12 months off my study time
    no its still complex, its just alot more refined than brown, its the same as white bread etc, not much good starch and faster digesting, but my mum didnt buy any brown rice, so i had to make do. haha im the opposite, i used to live off just rice and potato when i first got diagnosed with celiacs, and i used to really gorge on brown rice when i did cross country in highschool, so im used to eating huge amounts of just carbs, im not used to eating the amount of meat im currently taking though haha! ah sweet as, hopefully it'll be easier than the cert III prac which was a f'king nightmare to get done! hahaha man thats nasty bro, atleast you didnt bleed on anyone, imagine trying to spot someone on the bench for ur prac and then bleeding all over their face :P oh nice man! sounds like you can give the fkwits at your job the flick and then switch to your dream job, and then you'll be able to have steady meals since no more night shift
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    Keep us up to date boys..

    I'm also a few weeks into my own cut cycle before the great Aussie summer hits, so I'm using you guys to keep me motivated....
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    So after two weeks of a calorie deficit I weighed in today at 85.1kg 187.5lb. Progress. My girlfriend commented how my tummy has gone down so that's nice that she noticed
    I started epi today at 20mg daily and will start DMZ when my liver supports arrive. Ive been preloading milk thistle and will continue taking that until my liv52 and my aegis liver support arrives in a couple days.
    Sorry bout the lack of updates. Keep forgetting to update this one when I update my other log.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozHarris
    Keep us up to date boys..

    I'm also a few weeks into my own cut cycle before the great Aussie summer hits, so I'm using you guys to keep me motivated....
    How's your cut coming along bro?? I'm going to kick mine up a notch starting from Wednesday when I go on days off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukef2000

    How's your cut coming along bro?? I'm going to kick mine up a notch starting from Wednesday when I go on days off.
    A little slower than yours. Im dropping fat:muscle at a ratio of around 2:1. A little more muscle than hoped.
    Dropped from around 94kg to just over 90..
    First month 3 weeks have been natural but have grabbed some Alpha-1 and clenbuterol.
    Alpha-1 will start shortly for a 4 week cycle and Clen will be here in 2 weeks, will jump on that straight away.

    Main loss so far is like yourself, in my stomach.. After a bit of a bulk, it has shrunken down a lot.

    Cheers..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozHarris

    A little slower than yours. Im dropping fat:muscle at a ratio of around 2:1. A little more muscle than hoped.
    Dropped from around 94kg to just over 90..
    First month 3 weeks have been natural but have grabbed some Alpha-1 and clenbuterol.
    Alpha-1 will start shortly for a 4 week cycle and Clen will be here in 2 weeks, will jump on that straight away.

    Main loss so far is like yourself, in my stomach.. After a bit of a bulk, it has shrunken down a lot.

    Cheers..
    Sounds like you've got a solid plan bro. What makes you think you've lost muscle?? You'll always lose a few reps etc when your carb depleted. The stomach is the main area I need to lose it lol I don't really store it anywhere else.
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