Havoc cycle layout

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  1. Havoc cycle layout


    Havoc 30/30/30/40/40/50
    Cel cycle assist 4 a day through pct

    Pct
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    DAA 3gs a day starting week 6 of cycle

    Not sure what else to add in? Do I need an ai in pct?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    Havoc 30/30/30/40/40/50
    Cel cycle assist 4 a day through pct

    Pct
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    DAA 3gs a day starting week 6 of cycle

    Not sure what else to add in? Do I need an ai in pct?



    Do some more research before you cycle.
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  3. Thats what I'm doing now, I haven't bought anything yet. Trying to get some feedback on 6 week havoc runs.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    Thats what I'm doing now, I haven't bought anything yet. Trying to get some feedback on 6 week havoc runs.


    They're are SEVERAL havoc/epistane logs to read from. It's one of the most logged PH's. All you have to do is use the 'search feature' at any pro hormone forum and you can learn ALL KINDZZZZZZZZ of interesting sh*t.


    And if your truly interested in doing PH's/AAS, then you'll be excited enough to read all about it. You can check out my recent log on Epistane for some ideas.

  5. Whats your back ground bro? Age, stats, ph/ aas history?
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  6. 26 6'2 185lb
    I ran halo extreme a few months back thought it was ok
    That cycle layout was 50/75/75/75/100 and pct was clomid at 75/50/50/25 with test boosters and erase.

    I'm just asking for layout information, pro and cons of certain cycle ideals, ect

  7. Erase would be good to add week 3 of pct

  8. what kind of clomid doses do I need for a 6 week epi cycle?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    what kind of clomid doses do I need for a 6 week epi cycle?

    The REAL kind of clomid. No fake sh*t. Ta hell you think what kind? Dude.....DO SOME MORE READING.



    Not asking....READING. This way when you do have a question, it won't be some retarded a*s question that's been asked and answered a thousand times already.

  10. I asked about the doses not real or fake clomid

  11. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    I asked about the doses not real or fake clomid



    I still stick to the same statement.



    You need to read more. The answers are already out there.......unless you just like being spoon fed like a baby.

  12. 50/50/25/25 you could do 100 first few days if ya wanted but this will be fine

  13. I'm agreeing with Epstaneman. Read read read. Research research research. Your pct looks terrible, unless you want to lose all of the gains you made. Don't start the DAA while you're still taking the havoc. YES you need an AI. But again go read and discover what there is to know. I am another who can vouch for there being TONS of logs on this compound and planet of great info out there. Why clomid? Not nolva? Not torem? Weigh pros/cons of each. These are things to consider.

  14. hows this pct?
    clomid 100 first 3 days then 50/50/25/25
    DAA 6g/6g/3g/3g
    Anabeta Elite 4/4/4/4
    Erase Pro 1/1/1/1

  15. Keep researchin brothrr likke red9 and epstaneman already said

  16. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    hows this pct?
    clomid 100 first 3 days then 50/50/25/25
    DAA 6g/6g/3g/3g
    Anabeta Elite 4/4/4/4
    Erase Pro 1/1/1/1


    lol

  17. One read more
    Two it wont start to add the daa during last week to bost your lh. It tales 11ish days to kick in.

  18. pct #1
    Clomid- Week 6 - 10 ( 50/50/25/25 )
    Lean Xtreme - Week 6 - 10 ( 3 caps )
    S.A.N MyoTEST - Week 7 -11

    "PCT needs more, add some DAA pre-loaded at 6 grams each day during the final week of the ph cycle before pct begins. During pct, continue dosing the DAA at 3 grams all the way through. "

    PCT #2
    Nolva: 25,20,10,10
    Activate extreme: 0,4,4,4,4
    Triazole: 0,0,0,3,3,3,3

    PCT: #3
    Nolvadex: 20/20/10/10
    Erase:0/2/3/3/2/1
    Intimidate for 30 days
    5g Creatine
    Anabeta 4 ed for 30 days

    pct #4
    40mg nolva + 10 caps 6-OXO Extreme
    30mg nolva + 5 caps 6-OXO Extreme
    20mg nolva + 5 caps 6-OXO Extreme
    10mg nolva

    pct #5
    clomid: 150/150/100/50/50/25/25


    PCT: #6
    Weeks 7 - 11: PCT (Novla/Clomid, Erase, DAA)

    PCT: #7
    clomid 50/50/25/25
    DAA 3g/3g/3g/3g
    Erase 0/0/3/3/2/1


    *above where all copied from havoc logs.

  19. Copying and pasting doesn't mean you did research, it simply means you copied someone elses doses and aren't even going to attempt to find the right dose for yourself. You are obviously not ready, it's been stated numerous times now.

  20. humans learn through example. these are examples to better provide me with information to make the right choice.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage View Post
    humans learn through example. these are examples to better provide me with information to make the right choice.


    Some don't learn at all.

  22. looking these the pct i laid out still looks bad?

  23. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage
    looking these the pct i laid out still looks bad?
    Yup. You aren't going to find your answers overnight. Why dose 150mg of clomid!? 40mg of nolva!? Preload 6g of daa while ON!? Only use clomid and nothing else?? I laughed at half of those post cycles bud. Seriously, do actual research not copying and pasting

  24. I though mine was decent compared to these

  25. Quote Originally Posted by randysavage
    Havoc 30/30/30/40/40/50
    Cel cycle assist 4 a day through pct

    Pct
    Clomid 50/50/25/25
    DAA 3gs a day starting week 6 of cycle

    Not sure what else to add in? Do I need an ai in pct?
    Add in Erase or Erase Pro
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