[ABiLiTY]

I'll be starting my cycle tonight. Making my first injections soon.

Im running 4ad cyp and 1 test cyp at 1500 mg, and 1000 mg respectively.

To start with orals im running 24mg's m4ohn, and 90mg's m14ad.

Diet
Protien-2grams per lb lbm
Carbs-3 grams per lb lbm
fat .4 g per lbm

starting stats
lb-187.4
lbm-170.1
fat mass-16.7
fat %-8.9%

[glenihan]

are you using sledges cyps? or someone elses or homebrews?

[ABiLiTY]

im using sledges.

[ryansm]

Why the mohn? Don't think you need it personally. Stick with the m14add, and save the mohn for a later cycle.


Oh, and you got mail.

[RobInKuwait]

Originally Posted by ryansm

Why the mohn? Don't think you need it personally. Stick with the m14add, and save the mohn for a later cycle.


Oh, and you got mail.

Agreed. I always saw mohn as a cutter, and everything else in your stack screams bulker. Up your dose of M1,4ADD to 150 or 180 ED and I think you'll be happy with that cycle .......(thats also the stack I started last monday, so you can check out my log to see how its working)

[ABiLiTY]

I hold allot of water im using the m4ohn to help with that.

I used m4ohn in my last cycle and its my favorite ph. so im going at it again.

[ABiLiTY]

Had my first workout today. I took last week off, i was incredibly weak. Although i did get a pretty good pump.

[Kristopher]

Good luck, looks like a solid cycle!

[RobInKuwait]

Yeah, good luck!

[ABiLiTY]

Just got my first shots in.

I had to warm the oil to get it to draw, it was still a ***** with the 23g.

I was shaky as ****. I shot 2cc's into my quad. That one went pretty flawless.

Then i had trouble drawing and i could only draw 1cc of 1test and i couldent get any 4ad.

I injected the 1cc of a test into my shoulder, i was extremely shaky and it was very hard to push. I have pretty decent soreness.

I got the other cc of 4ad and injected into my other shoulder, again it was very hard to inject, but it feels pretty good.

I guess it went ok for my first time, but damn i didn't think it would be so hard to press the syringe down, im prolly not doing something correct though.

[Nate Dawg]

My shots of 4ad/1test were extremely hard to get the plunger to go down, I always stuck the needle in myself, then had either my brother or knox push the plunger in for me. To try and get it to go in easier I would reccommend running the syringe under warm water for a minute or so to lower the viscosity a bit, it should go through a bit easier. I drew with a 22g and shot with a 25g. You said you had problems with getting the 4ad to come out, I dont know if you do it or not, but what really helps is inject several cc of air into the bottle before you actually draw from it, just keep putting air in the bottle, until when the needle is in the bottle that the pressure causes the plunger to go out on its own, obviously the farther down the bottle you get the more air you will have to put in the bottle due to less volume of the liquid in the bottle. Also one other thing I might add, again I dont know if you are doing it or not, but it helped me, mix the 1test and 4ad in a 50/50 ration in the syringe, the 4ad helps cut down from the pain that comes with the 1test. I was running the same dosages as you, so this is what I did, I shot two days a week, doing two injections each day. On monday I would mix in one syringe 1.25ml of 1test and 1.25ml of 4ad totalling 2.5ml, then have another syringe filled with the same mixture. I would shoot one syringe in my right glute and the other in my right quad, then on thursday I would again have two syringes each mixed the exact same way and shoot one syringe in my left glute and the other I would split 1.25ml in my left shoulder and 1.25ml in my right shoulder, it worked out pretty good this way, so it all totals out for the week 5cc of 1test=1000mg and 5cc of 4ad=1500mg, so if that helps you any. Good luck with your cycle Ryan!!

[ABiLiTY]

nate thanx.

I planned on shooting 3x's a week. But i might lean toward your plan next week.

I trained legs today, i was extremely weak, and easily fatigued.

My lifts have been down by like 90-100 pounds(squat and bench), but my pumps are pretty big. And from yesterday morning to yesterday nite, being my first day "on" i gained 5lb's.

[Nate Dawg]

why are your lifts down so bad, coming back from an injury?

[ABiLiTY]

na, no injury i took the week off before the cycle. Last week i took off i didnt seem to have a problem when i came back. Right now, my weakness is beyond me.
But im looking very big, and im getting good pumps.

[ABiLiTY]

Just got my next inject.

hit my calf and other quad. I liked the calf allot.

Updated stats
lb-193.2
lbm+3.6
fat+2.8

[ABiLiTY]

The soreness i have right now is unreal, its hard to walk. Not from the shots, but just from lifting.

Also, i havent been able to sleep verywell.

[ABiLiTY]

I'm thinking about injecting my quads again tomarow, just at a diffrent spot then the other time. I cant reach my glutes my self, and i think tris will be very hard to reach as well.

[ABiLiTY]

Todays workout i was still pretty weak and easily fatigued.