Mandime (aka IrishEndo) and GermanMeso's Helladrol Co-Log
08-31-2012 11:04 PM
OK. now i am starting to feel good. body feels tighter and more firm. increased muscle hardness. weighed in at 237 today and feeling leaner.
hit squats tonight and did a 5x5. 325, 325, 335, 345, 325. felt solid as fuk.
really looking forward to these next 4 weeks.
09-02-2012 05:30 PM
Hitting back tonight.
I have hit chest and legs since I last posted.All of my workouts are good but nothing crazy so far. Yes, I am hitting slightly more weight than before but nothing absurd. The pumps are CRAZY! Take your taurine!!!
I feel very dry and hard. My joints hurt (taking preventative measures)while pushing or pulling. I am hoping to PR on squats/ bench/ military by the end of this little cycle. Also, quite a bit of shrinkage but I'm not too concerned. I am drinking 1.5 gallons of water a day and every morning I wake up DYING of thirst! Don't know what to do about that. Cycle is going well though. No real sides besides lethargy. I wish I could sleep for 10 hours a night.
09-03-2012 05:02 AM
Looks like your guys' cycles are going well. Keep up the good work!
@mandime: I used 6g fishoil and a glucosamine/chondroitin (spell check) supplement and that really helped my joints. Felt no dryness on epi or the epi/hdrol stack. What are you using currently?
09-04-2012 01:06 AM
Almost end of week 3
Feeling solid as fuk. only sides are dry joints, low libido, and a little bit of lethargy.
Gym weight tonight was 240 lbs. hit shoulders and got a pretty solid pump. the weight seemed super light.
hit bench two days ago and felt strong. did a 5x5 but went up 10 lbs each set. 225 all the way to 265. feel confident that i will be able to hit 315 for a few at the end of the cycle.
really debating whether or not to go to 100mg for the last 3 weeks given the fact that i weight quite a bit right now. thoughts??
09-05-2012 01:01 AM
Nice log - Glad everything is going well! Ending day 15 myself, haven't seen much so far besides some shrinkage, lethargy and THIRST as you mentioned.
The lethargy is such a SOB, funny how quick it goes away when you get to the gym though.
09-05-2012 02:07 AM
Tonight was back and bis.
I'm having a real hard time with back exercises. back pumps are super painful making anything back related a real pain in the ass. felt slightly discouraged because of it because my back is one of my weak points in terms of width. took 6grams of taurine as well.
i would rather squat heavy as fuk than have to go through another back w/o.
tomorrow is hypertrophy squats and might throw in a 5x5 bench routine as well.
09-05-2012 06:02 PM
Today was biceps/hypertrophy legs. It was an ok workout. The novelty of the crazy pump has worn thin and it now is almost getting in the way sometimes.
Side note: I mildly injured my left shoulder last chest day... Ugh... Other than that things are going well. I went to my family's lake house this past weekend and both my mother and sister asked what I was taking to get so big... So needless to say, I think it's working.
09-05-2012 06:12 PM
been readin past few days and very good stuff so far gentlemen; sorry for the late follow, but def count me in for this badboy. Starting my hella in a few weeks after pre-loading soon and very excited, best of luck to both of yous two and def gonna follow this!
09-06-2012 12:03 AM
End of week 3
Alright...so im about to start week 4.
hit light squats tonight (3x15 w/ 185lbs). Now this weight and rep range is super super easy for me normally. i got the worst back pumps from this. i know my form is correct as well. im a squat connoisseur if i may. squat day is by far my favorite. anyway...it took me roughly 30 minutes to recover from the back pumps.
So here is what i have to say.... I am on the fence on whether or not i am enjoying this cycle. Strength has def. improved but the quality of 60% of my workouts has been ****..utter ****. My diet is in check. gaining weight steadily. cycle supps are on point as well.
In my opinion, you should not even consider doing deadlifts on cycle or higher than 5 rep squats.
The actual muscle pumps are insane. ie. My forearms explode every time i touch some heavier weight.
To be honest i just want to finish this cycle and get back to normal. I am not dogging steroids and am glad i did a cycle but i just dont think its for me. Even if it is a fairly mild cycle, i was content with how i looked before and with my strength.
I might just be saying all this now due to the fact that back pumps have ruined some of my workouts.
Oh well... gonna try my best to finish off these last 3 weeks with some good gains. Would like to hit 405 squat and be able to rep 315 on bench for a few. These are my goals. fuk getting my deadlift up...not worth the pain.
09-06-2012 06:22 PM
End of week 3
To piggyback off of GermanMeso's post, I have been told by MANY people now that it looks like I blew up. Which is good I guess but its odd that it happened so quickly. My nutrition is on point and bf% has possibly dropped a few points and weight is up quite a bit as well.
I want to start cutting. I know, I know. I am tempted to start cutting for these last 3 weeks and drop a few bf% but I think I'm going to stick with eating slightly over maintenance and continue "bulking." Durring PCT I am going to eat right around maintenance and try to make the gains "stick" and let my body start getting back to normal.
A few questions:
1. How long after PCT is it ok to begin cutting?
2. Anything (non AAS/PH) that I could take during the cut that would help me retain muscle mass/make it easier? (Thought about clen but I hate stims...)
09-07-2012 03:32 PM
Make sure you guys are taking in 5-10g of taurine pwo and potassium (supps or bananas) and that should ease the back pumps as that has def worked with ppl I know and logs I've read as well.
I can't speak personally and I'm sure a good amount of other ppl will give advice as well, but I would wait a couple of weeks (2-3) after pct, plus the 1-2 weeks of preventing e rebound to start cutting or you will lose it all. Nearly happened to me on my first sarms run around and I would recommend highly osta sarms between 12.5-25 mg to keep muscle mass as I am not a huge fan of stims either; however for cortisol support lean extreme should be in pct and you can throw in osta into your pct. If not, wait until your cycle/pct is over then run osta as a bridge with a mini pct after that time you almost should be about ready for another cycle, only if you choose to run that 8 weeks; if you guys have any questions about sarms feel free to ask, already did 2 cycles and I love them (S4, Osta and 667)
09-08-2012 05:18 PM
alright...disregard my last post. i was acting like a bitch. just needed to change my training up a bit.
had a solid back lift sesh last night..finally.
weight is at a steady 240 in the morning. and my arms have gone from 16.5 to a lil over 17 cold flexed. is this real life???
feeling pretty hyooge at the moment. gonna try and gain some more weight these last few weeks. hopefully hit 250. gotta make use of the cycle. who cares about a little fat gain.
hit heavy 5x5 squats today......315, 335, 355 (PR), 335, 315. felt super strong today.
tomorrow is bench day. looking to hit 275x5 and maybe play around with some 1rms as well.
no bad sides besides some lethargy, back pumps, and dry joints. worst side is not being able to fit into any of clothes. lolz.
09-08-2012 06:05 PM
I sent a PM yesterday answering your questions, due to poor connection and it was on my phone lemme know if it went through or not and I'll either send another one or answer more questions
09-09-2012 10:33 PM
Day 4 Week 4
Hit chest today.
god damn. felt strong as fuk. technically PR'ed three times.
Started with usually bar warmup and 135x10, 225x5, 245x5, 275x5, 295x5, 315x2. The last three were all personal bests. The rest of the chest workout sucked balls considering my elbows and shoulders were hurting like a bitch. still ecstatic about the lifts though.
I feel confident that i will be able to hit 315x5 by the end of the cycle with ease. Really wondering what my 1RM will be. Hoping to hit something like 350ish.
Gonna run the last two weeks at 100mg. so im expecting some solid strength gains. 405 squat is calling my name.
Actually enjoying the cycle very much.
09-12-2012 12:43 AM
Day 6 Week 4
Aight. so tomorrow is the last day of week 4. gonna start running the hella at 100 starting tomorrow.
Took yesterday off from the gym after the crazy squat and bench sessions this past weekend.
Hit the gym tonight, squats, back, and bis.
Started off with a simple 5x5 squat at 315lbs. I went in intending to do pause squats but i did not have a lifting belt this time. i forgot how much the belt helps with squating, so i ended up not doing pause squats. we are using a not so good harbinger lifting belt and it suprisingly helps quite a bit. looking to get an Inzer 10mm belt here real soon. anyway hit all 5 sets with relative ease. trying to prep my body for attempting a 405 squat during the last week of the cycle.
my left elbow has been hurting like a bitch from the heavy benching that was done on sunday.
starting to do 2 hours of cardio a week via swimming (class for school). not the best timing but i would like to trim some BF as i feel kind of chub at the moment. still going to eat big though.
sitting at 240 ish in the morning.
all i really want to accomplish during these last two weeks is to hit 315x5 on bench and test my 1rm as well as hit 405 x1 or more squat.
09-12-2012 11:36 PM
Day 7 Week 4
Tried hitting shoulders tonight but i must have really ****ed my left elbow up bad because i was in some serious pain. Decided to scrap the workout and am going to take tomorrow off as well. it was just too painful to continue and i did not want to risk injuring it further.
elbow feels inflamed as ****.
friday is heavy squat day. at least my knees feel fine. guess i can really work on hitting some heavy weight.
hopefully my elbow wont be in pain for chest day this weekend.
pretty pissed about scrapping my workout but sometimes you gotta take some time off.
09-12-2012 11:40 PM
At least 2-4 weeks after pct to be safe and daa stacked with erase would help you keep gains while cutting a bit
Originally Posted by mandime
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09-13-2012 12:31 AM
Hey bros, I ran hella a few months bacj I ran 50(3days)75/75/75/100/100/100/100
Dont be scared to bump it up to 100 if your sides are good.
Also joints, make sure you on that fish oil. Run to walmart and snag you some glcousimin (sp), if you really score you can find a combination of MSM, gluecosimine, as well as CSM. double dose it and those joints will be curred in a few days
09-13-2012 04:29 PM
Week 5 Day 1
Today was day 2 @100mg. We are both splitting the dose in half, 50mg at 8am, then 50mg at 4pm.
I had a total bro day in the gym. Arms and abs baby. Besides being a total bs "arm day," it was great. Brb, lifting more on everything related to arms. The pump was great. I have long ass biceps and really want to add some overall size to my arms.
Things to mention, I slept TERRIBLY last night. I think it was due to the new higher dose but could have been otherwise. Also, I am peeing 5,000x a night. Not srs but probably at least 5 times last night... WTF?
Last thing I'll mention is this. When I begin my slow cut a few weeks after pct I'm going to run a SARM. I have heard that S4 tends to be better for cutting but the vision sides worry me. Also, is PCT necessary (for the SARM) if run at a low dose for 6 weeks?
09-13-2012 05:17 PM
Day 1 Week 5
Did an hour of swimming today and my ****ing elbow got super inflamed again. per the advice given by "j05441" went out and bought some Glucosamine, Chondroitin, MSM. double dosing this ****.
sides to date:
- mild upper arm acne (no big deal, already prone to moderate acne)
- dry painful joints (taking 14k fish oil, and now the glucosamine, chondroitin, msm)
Gonna hit heavy squats tomorrow and hope to get 365x5. hit 355x5 last week.
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