first PH cycle

  1. Registered User
    huggy77's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  257 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    550
    Answers
    0

    first PH cycle


    i ordered some helladrol and katana. I have clomid and n2shield on hand... what dosages would you recommend.

    i have not touched an anabolic in 5 years and i have never touched a PH...

    Just looking for some extra advice....

    ty in advance....

    looking to re-comp a bit...

    i am 6-2 about 280 pounds, been training on an off for ten years...

    i am also doing lean gains..

  2. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0

    Age?

    Anyhow if you have played with AAS before go ahead and run the stack...but even then IMO it would be best to run H-drol alone to learn how you react to it first and save Katana for another cycle.

    H-drol for first run is well dosed at:

    50/50/75/75/75/75

    I would not recommend to go to 100 on the first run...but it says you are 300lbs...if you are and if you are overage...well test the waters at your will. What I CAN recommend is actually just running it at 50 for a week then at 75 for 5 weeks.

    PCT:
    Clomid:
    50/50/25/25
    Erase:
    0/0/3/3/2/1
    DAA
    3/3/3/3/3/3
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  3. Registered User
    huggy77's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  257 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    550
    Answers
    0

    I am down to about 280 now... 34 years old...

    Ty for the advice...
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    I am down to about 280 now... 34 years old...

    Ty for the advice...
    What are your previous cycles?
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  5. Registered User
    Mass Monkey's Avatar
    Stats
    5'5"  171 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    529
    Answers
    0

    Ditto to the above but some have bumped H-Drol up to 100 first cycle with still no sides.

    Safe assumption you have all your supports in place as well, like cycle assist, PCT assist, multivitamin, Taurine and so on.
  6. Registered User
    huggy77's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  257 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    550
    Answers
    0

    Usually tren and enthanate... I used to respond really well to homemade tren...
  7. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by huggy77 View Post
    Usually tren and enthanate... I used to respond really well to homemade tren...
    never heard of Home Made Tren haha. Ok lets see...run this if you already know you On-Cycle parameters:

    H-drol
    75/75/75/75/100/100
    Katana:
    250/250/250/250/250/250
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  8. Registered User
    TheRage1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    217
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza
    Age?

    Anyhow if you have played with AAS before go ahead and run the stack...but even then IMO it would be best to run H-drol alone to learn how you react to it first and save Katana for another cycle.

    H-drol for first run is well dosed at:

    50/50/75/75/75/75

    I would not recommend to go to 100 on the first run...but it says you are 300lbs...if you are and if you are overage...well test the waters at your will. What I CAN recommend is actually just running it at 50 for a week then at 75 for 5 weeks.

    PCT:
    Clomid:
    50/50/25/25
    Erase:
    0/0/3/3/2/1
    DAA
    3/3/3/3/3/3
    I agree with the dosages, but why hold off the katana? I'm assuming if he ran AAS before, using hdrol and katana shouldn't be a big deal. But then again, i guess it depends what he has ran.
  9. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage1 View Post
    I agree with the dosages, but why hold off the katana? I'm assuming if he ran AAS before, using hdrol and katana shouldn't be a big deal. But then again, i guess it depends what he has ran.
    Usually its best to run a compound standalone to learn about it first and your own reactions. Rather than running s4+osta+t3
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  10. Registered User
    TheRage1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Posts
    217
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Celorza

    Usually its best to run a compound standalone to learn about it first and your own reactions. Rather than running s4+osta+t3
    Really? You're gonna throw that at me? Lmfao. Jerk... so are you gonna help me out or just throw that at me haha. It's a good mix, kay?!
  11. Registered User
    Celorza's Avatar
    Stats
    5'6"  150 lbs.
    Join Date
    Apr 2012
    Age
    23
    Posts
    9,552
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by TheRage1 View Post
    Really? You're gonna throw that at me? Lmfao. Jerk... so are you gonna help me out or just throw that at me haha. It's a good mix, kay?!
    Your thread bro , We'll talk there hehe
    >SNS-Glycophase<
    Serious Nutrition Solutions Rep
  12. Registered User
    huggy77's Avatar
    Stats
    6'2"  257 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    550
    Answers
    0

    Ty for all the help... i have a ton of vitamins, creatine, protein pct stuff on hand... Looking forward to applying this with Lean Gains because lean gains has really been working well for me....
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 80
    Last Post: 06-10-2008, 01:27 PM
  2. here we go....first PH cycle
    By mass_builder in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 12-23-2003, 05:22 PM
  3. First PH Cycle.....S1+ or T1 Pro ?
    By enkri in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 12-22-2003, 04:02 PM
  4. First PH cycle - T-1 or M1T?
    By Alt+F4 in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-12-2003, 09:07 PM
  5. Starting my first PH cycle - comments wanted
    By theSCHICK in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 07-16-2003, 02:44 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in